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bullet Posted: 06 April 2005 at 3:38pm
Originally posted by MOCKBA

If I cut one finger I will have 19 in total... or if i lift one finger as i pronounce tashahhud during my prayer 19 remain resting in their place...  should that make me re-consider studying "cryptographic" message of the Qur'aan with number 19 being it's foundation?

The number of heavens mixed with the number of brothers multiplied by the number of prayers has produced quite a "colorful cocktail" in one of the responses of this thread.

(Some) say they were three, the dog being the fourth among them; (others) say they were five, the dog being the sixth, guessing at the unseen; (yet others) say they were seven, the dog being the eighth. Say (O Muhammad): "My Lord knows best their number; none knows them but a few." So debate not (about their number, etc.) except with the clear proof (which We have revealed to you). And consult not any of them (people of the Scripture, Jews and Christians) about (the affair of) the people of the Cave. [al-Kahf:22]

Dear brothers and sisters in Islaam, especially those gifted with mathematical talents, i invite you to "decode" yourselves and spend time doing something more productive, watering plants or smth.

Qur'aan is a miracle and no genuine Muslim has any doubts over that...  nobody has to repeat this 19 times to get the message across.

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Assalamu alaikum,

Well said, akhi. This is one of the stupidest threads I've ever seen.

The Masons were big on numerology too.

And if you play Revolution Number Nine by the Beatles backwards it says "turn me on dead man."



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bullet Posted: 07 April 2005 at 9:03am
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And if you play Revolution Number Nine by the Beatles backwards it says "turn me on dead man."

 



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bullet Posted: 07 April 2005 at 10:14am
Last night I realized that if you stand on your head, "19" becomes "61," and 6+1=7. Hmmmmmmm . . . . . .
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bullet Posted: 07 April 2005 at 12:42pm

Salam,

Probably this is one of the reasons Muslims in the last 1000 years didn't go anywhere. Because everything is dedicated to research the magic of Islam (Quran, sunah etc).

Who have talent in math, they used it just to play around to find magical numbers about quran and other parts of Islam.
Who has talent in other field also used for the similar thing.

Basically we are busy with the magical thing, probably this is the way Muslims are. It is very sad, huh. Another example when we learn about prophet migration (hijrah) the emphasize is on how the prophet escaped from his house that surrounded by his enemy, how the enemy didn't go into the Tsur cave, how Surakah's horse threw him up many times etc. Never mentioned that Prophet Muhammad had a plan and strategy, for example why the prophet went 5 miles to the south when Medina is in the north of makkah, also when he chose Ali bin Abi Thalib and Abdullah bin Abubakar as his spy to monitor his enemy activities before he continued the journey and so on.

One other example that just happened recently; during Aceh tsunami, tens of mosques were survive, many-many people came to the conclusion that "this is miracle, how Allah protect his own houses". But they didn't care to the fact that according to the Indonesian government's report there were 2704 other mosques were destroyed. So the number of mosques were survive is nothing compare to number of mosques were destroyed.



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bullet Posted: 07 April 2005 at 9:27pm

Originally posted by Yusuf.

Last night I realized that if you stand on your head, "19" becomes "61," and 6+1=7. Hmmmmmmm . . . . . .

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Salam,

Probably this is one of the reasons Muslims in the last 1000 years didn't go anywhere. Because everything is dedicated to research the magic of Islam (Quran, sunah etc).

Who have talent in math, they used it just to play around to find magical number about quran and parts of Islam.
Who has talent in other field also used for the similar thing.

Basically we are busy with the magical thing, probably this is the way Muslims are. It is very sad, huh. Other example when we learn about prophet migration (hijrah) the emphasize is on how the prophet escaped from his house that surrounded by his enemy, how the enemy didn't go into the Tsur cave, how Surakah's horse threw him up many times etc. Never mentioned that Prophet Muhammad had a plan and strategy, for example why the prophet went 5 miles to the south when Medina is in the north of makkah, also when he chose Ali bin Abi Thalib and Abdullah bin Abubakar as his spy to monitor his enemy activities before he continued the journey and so on.

One other example that just happened recently; during Aceh tsunami, tens of mosques were survive, many-many people came to the conclusion that "this is miracle, how Allah protect his own houses". But they didn't care to the fact that according to the Indonesian government's report there were 2704 other mosques were destroyed. So the number of the mosques were survive is nothing compare to number the mosques were destroyed.

I have a close friend from Indonesia who offered a personal report to me.

Allah does not live in any Mosque/Masjid. Even though Al-Haram is called Al-Baitullah, Allah doesn't live there. I believe that the true House of Allah is the heart.



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bullet Posted: 08 April 2005 at 10:29am

Agree.

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