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Posted: 26 October 2011 at 1:08am

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Harold Camping speaks during a taping of his show "Open Forum" in Oakland, Calif., May 23, 2011. (AP Photo/Marcio Jose Sanchez)

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SAN FRANCISCO - A California ministry that warned the end of the world would come Friday awoke to discover that Earth was undergoing its usual gyrations with no signs of a cataclysmic event.

Oakland-based Family Radio International stirred a global frenzy when it predicted the rapture would take 200 million Christians to heaven on May 21. Its most recent pronouncement said natural disasters would destroy the globe on Friday.

Though two moderate quakes did jolt the San Francisco Bay area on Thursday and floods still threaten to swamp Bangkok, the planet remained intact.

Apocalypse, again: Camping says today's the day

The ministry and its 90-year-old leader, Harold Camping, are avoiding the media this time around and perhaps a repeat of the international mockery that followed the previous prediction.

Calls to the ministry went to voicemail and were unreturned.

Camping, who suffered a mild stroke three weeks after his prediction failed to materialize in May, still spreads the word through his Family Radio International website.

Followers were crestfallen in May when the rapture did not occur, particularly those who had quit their jobs or donated some of their retirement savings or college funds for the more than 5,000 billboards and 20 RVs plastered with the Judgment Day message.

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Posted: 26 October 2011 at 1:10am

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SAN FRANCISCO - A California ministry has again predicted the end of the world is at hand.

The Oakland-based Family Radio International that stirred a global frenzy when it predicted the Rapture would take 200 million Christians to heaven on May 21, now says the cataclysmic event will destroy the globe on Friday.

But the world on Friday was undergoing its usual give-and-take with no signs of such an event.

This time, the ministry and its 90-year-old leader, Harold Camping, have avoided the media and perhaps a repeat of the international mockery that followed when believers awoke on May 22 to find themselves still on Earth.

"I'm sorry to disappoint you, but we at Family Radio have been directed to not talk to the media or the press," Camping's daughter Susan Espinoza wrote in response to an email request about Friday's doomsday scenario.

Calls to the ministry in Oakland Thursday went to voicemail and were unreturned. Several followers who were contacted also declined comment.

How Harold Camping marketed the Rapture
Harold Camping reschedules "rapture" for October
Harold Camping "flabbergasted" by non-Rapture

Camping, who suffered a mild stroke three weeks after his prediction failed to materialize in May, still spreads the word through his Family Radio International website. God's judgment and salvation were completed on May 21, Camping says in a message explaining the mix-up in his biblical math.

"Thus we can be sure that the whole world, with the exception of those who are presently saved (the elect), are under the judgment of God, and will be annihilated together with the whole physical world on Oct. 21," he says on the website.

Followers were crestfallen in May when the Rapture did not occur, particularly those who had quit their jobs or donated some of their retirement savings or college funds for the more than 5,000 billboards and 20 RVs plastered with the Judgment Day message.

Camping, a retired civil engineer, also prophesied the Apocalypse would come in 1994, but said later that didn't happen because of a mathematical error.

Salam/Peace,
Semar
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"1/3 of your stomach for food 1/3 for water, 1/3 for air"

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Posted: 26 October 2011 at 1:49pm

Doomsday didn't occur as Camping predicted? I am shocked! Shocked

So, let see. Doomsday didn't occur. Gog and Magog has not occurred (anyone seen Douggg lately?). The Rapture didn't occur (maybe Douggg got raptured!).

Edited by islamispeace - 26 October 2011 at 1:51pm

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Posted: 26 October 2011 at 10:43pm

Well some estimates indicate that approximately 150,000 people die each day, so it was indeed a type of "doomsday" end of the world - for them you might say...

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Posted: 28 October 2011 at 7:51pm

Originally posted by abuayisha

Well some estimates indicate that approximately 150,000 people die each day, so it was indeed a type of "doomsday" end of the world - for them you might say...

That's true but that is clearly not what Camping and his band of misfits were predicting. LOL

Say: "Truly, my prayer and my service of sacrifice, my life and my death, are (all) for Allah, the Cherisher of the Worlds. (Surat al-Anaam: 162)

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Posted: 31 October 2011 at 1:27pm

Originally posted by islamispeace

Originally posted by abuayisha

Well some estimates indicate that approximately 150,000 people die each day, so it was indeed a type of "doomsday" end of the world - for them you might say...

That's true but that is clearly not what Camping and his band of misfits were predicting. LOL

Salam brother,

certainly, they even don't know their belief, these people even don't pay attention to their own book, if he was he would never come up with such claims.

Matthew 24:36
[ The Day and Hour Unknown ] “But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.

Note, that there is somthing else in the above verse which people like Jack need to pay attention now while they can. " nor even the son", Jesus (pbuh) cannot be clearer than that even he does not know when that Day will come. Common sense tell us what that means, one that does not know, is not God, if you need logic to prove it!

Jazakallah,

Hasan

39:64 Proclaim: Is it some one other than God that you order me to worship, O you ignorant ones?"

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Posted: 31 October 2011 at 7:08pm

Originally posted by honeto

Originally posted by islamispeace

Originally posted by abuayisha

Well some estimates indicate that approximately 150,000 people die each day, so it was indeed a type of "doomsday" end of the world - for them you might say...

That's true but that is clearly not what Camping and his band of misfits were predicting. LOL

Salam brother,

certainly, they even don't know their belief, these people even don't pay attention to their own book, if he was he would never come up with such claims.

Matthew 24:36
[ The Day and Hour Unknown ] “But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.

Jazakallah,

Hasan

Walaikum as-salaam brother Hasan (by the way, my new-born nephew's name is Hasan Smile

). This is a good point. Sadly, most Christians choose to disregard the plain evidence from their own book which should keep them from playing this foolish game of trying to predict the end of the world. They also choose to disregard this verse which proves conclusively that Jesus (pbuh) was not God, but simply man, like you and me. Of course, he was a great man and a prophet, but a man nonetheless. May Allah's peace be upon him and his mother, Hazrat Mariam.

Edited by islamispeace - 31 October 2011 at 7:09pm

Say: "Truly, my prayer and my service of sacrifice, my life and my death, are (all) for Allah, the Cherisher of the Worlds. (Surat al-Anaam: 162)

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Posted: 01 November 2011 at 6:58am

islamispeace wrote: most Christians choose to disregard the plain evidence from their own book which should keep them from playing this foolish game of trying to predict the end of the world.

Just to confirm what you are saying: there are currently around 2.1 billion christians, and you are claiming that over half of them are followers of Camping. Correct? Do you have any evidence which backs up your claim?

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semar Senior Member Senior Member Joined: 11 March 2005 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1234	Topic: Doomsday prediction by ministry doesn't happen Posted: 26 October 2011 at 1:08am
	Harold Camping speaks during a taping of his show "Open Forum" in Oakland, Calif., May 23, 2011. (AP Photo/Marcio Jose Sanchez) (AP) SAN FRANCISCO - A California ministry that warned the end of the world would come Friday awoke to discover that Earth was undergoing its usual gyrations with no signs of a cataclysmic event. Oakland-based Family Radio International stirred a global frenzy when it predicted the rapture would take 200 million Christians to heaven on May 21. Its most recent pronouncement said natural disasters would destroy the globe on Friday. Though two moderate quakes did jolt the San Francisco Bay area on Thursday and floods still threaten to swamp Bangkok, the planet remained intact. Apocalypse, again: Camping says today's the day The ministry and its 90-year-old leader, Harold Camping, are avoiding the media this time around and perhaps a repeat of the international mockery that followed the previous prediction. Calls to the ministry went to voicemail and were unreturned. Camping, who suffered a mild stroke three weeks after his prediction failed to materialize in May, still spreads the word through his Family Radio International website. Followers were crestfallen in May when the rapture did not occur, particularly those who had quit their jobs or donated some of their retirement savings or college funds for the more than 5,000 billboards and 20 RVs plastered with the Judgment Day message.
	Salam/Peace, Semar The Prophet said: "Do not eat before you are hungry, and stop eating before you are full" "1/3 of your stomach for food 1/3 for water, 1/3 for air"
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semar Senior Member Senior Member Joined: 11 March 2005 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1234	Posted: 26 October 2011 at 1:10am
	(AP) SAN FRANCISCO - A California ministry has again predicted the end of the world is at hand. The Oakland-based Family Radio International that stirred a global frenzy when it predicted the Rapture would take 200 million Christians to heaven on May 21, now says the cataclysmic event will destroy the globe on Friday. But the world on Friday was undergoing its usual give-and-take with no signs of such an event. This time, the ministry and its 90-year-old leader, Harold Camping, have avoided the media and perhaps a repeat of the international mockery that followed when believers awoke on May 22 to find themselves still on Earth. "I'm sorry to disappoint you, but we at Family Radio have been directed to not talk to the media or the press," Camping's daughter Susan Espinoza wrote in response to an email request about Friday's doomsday scenario. Calls to the ministry in Oakland Thursday went to voicemail and were unreturned. Several followers who were contacted also declined comment. How Harold Camping marketed the Rapture Harold Camping reschedules "rapture" for October Harold Camping "flabbergasted" by non-Rapture Camping, who suffered a mild stroke three weeks after his prediction failed to materialize in May, still spreads the word through his Family Radio International website. God's judgment and salvation were completed on May 21, Camping says in a message explaining the mix-up in his biblical math. "Thus we can be sure that the whole world, with the exception of those who are presently saved (the elect), are under the judgment of God, and will be annihilated together with the whole physical world on Oct. 21," he says on the website. Followers were crestfallen in May when the Rapture did not occur, particularly those who had quit their jobs or donated some of their retirement savings or college funds for the more than 5,000 billboards and 20 RVs plastered with the Judgment Day message. Camping, a retired civil engineer, also prophesied the Apocalypse would come in 1994, but said later that didn't happen because of a mathematical error.
	Salam/Peace, Semar The Prophet said: "Do not eat before you are hungry, and stop eating before you are full" "1/3 of your stomach for food 1/3 for water, 1/3 for air"
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islamispeace Islam Senior Member Joined: 01 November 2005 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1417	Posted: 26 October 2011 at 1:49pm
	Doomsday didn't occur as Camping predicted? I am shocked! So, let see. Doomsday didn't occur. Gog and Magog has not occurred (anyone seen Douggg lately?). The Rapture didn't occur (maybe Douggg got raptured!). Edited by islamispeace - 26 October 2011 at 1:51pm
	Say: "Truly, my prayer and my service of sacrifice, my life and my death, are (all) for Allah, the Cherisher of the Worlds. (Surat al-Anaam: 162)
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abuayisha Senior Member Joined: 05 October 1999 Online Status: Offline Posts: 4014	Posted: 26 October 2011 at 10:43pm
	Well some estimates indicate that approximately 150,000 people die each day, so it was indeed a type of "doomsday" end of the world - for them you might say...
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islamispeace Islam Senior Member Joined: 01 November 2005 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1417	Posted: 28 October 2011 at 7:51pm
	*Originally posted by abuayisha* Well some estimates indicate that approximately 150,000 people die each day, so it was indeed a type of "doomsday" end of the world - for them you might say... That's true but that is clearly not what Camping and his band of misfits were predicting.
	Say: "Truly, my prayer and my service of sacrifice, my life and my death, are (all) for Allah, the Cherisher of the Worlds. (Surat al-Anaam: 162)
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honeto Senior Member Joined: 20 March 2008 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2340	Posted: 31 October 2011 at 1:27pm
	*Originally posted by islamispeace* *Originally posted by abuayisha* Well some estimates indicate that approximately 150,000 people die each day, so it was indeed a type of "doomsday" end of the world - for them you might say... That's true but that is clearly not what Camping and his band of misfits were predicting. Salam brother, certainly, they even don't know their belief, these people even don't pay attention to their own book, if he was he would never come up with such claims. Matthew 24:36 [ The Day and Hour* Unknown* ] “But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father. Note, that there is somthing else in the above verse which people like Jack need to pay attention now while they can. " nor even the son", Jesus (pbuh) cannot be clearer than that even he does not know when that Day will come. Common sense tell us what that means, one that does not know, is not God, if you need logic to prove it! Jazakallah, Hasan
	39:64 Proclaim: Is it some one other than God that you order me to worship, O you ignorant ones?"
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islamispeace Islam Senior Member Joined: 01 November 2005 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1417	Posted: 31 October 2011 at 7:08pm
	*Originally posted by honeto* *Originally posted by islamispeace* *Originally posted by abuayisha* Well some estimates indicate that approximately 150,000 people die each day, so it was indeed a type of "doomsday" end of the world - for them you might say... That's true but that is clearly not what Camping and his band of misfits were predicting. Salam brother, certainly, they even don't know their belief, these people even don't pay attention to their own book, if he was he would never come up with such claims. Matthew 24:36 [ The Day and Hour* Unknown* ] “But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father. Note, that there is somthing else in the above verse which people like Jack need to pay attention now while they can. " nor even the son", Jesus (pbuh) cannot be clearer than that even he does not know when that Day will come. Common sense tell us what that means, one that does not know, is not God, if you need logic to prove it! Jazakallah, Hasan Walaikum as-salaam brother Hasan (by the way, my new-born nephew's name is Hasan ). This is a good point. Sadly, most Christians choose to disregard the plain evidence from their own book which should keep them from playing this foolish game of trying to predict the end of the world. They also choose to disregard this verse which proves conclusively that Jesus (pbuh) was not God, but simply man, like you and me. Of course, he was a great man and a prophet, but a man nonetheless. May Allah's peace be upon him and his mother, Hazrat Mariam. Edited by islamispeace - 31 October 2011 at 7:09pm
	Say: "Truly, my prayer and my service of sacrifice, my life and my death, are (all) for Allah, the Cherisher of the Worlds. (Surat al-Anaam: 162)
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Reepicheep Senior Member Joined: 06 November 2006 Online Status: Offline Posts: 235	Posted: 01 November 2011 at 6:58am
	islamispeace wrote: most Christians choose to disregard the plain evidence from their own book which should keep them from playing this foolish game of trying to predict the end of the world. Just to confirm what you are saying: there are currently around 2.1 billion christians, and you are claiming that over half of them are followers of Camping. Correct? Do you have any evidence which backs up your claim?
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