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AnDe
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![]() Topic: The Spirit of GodPosted: 07 September 2011 at 6:35pm |
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Very gently may I post this , for I know there are many good Islamic people who will both help me , and draw comfort from my words. If by accident I offend anyone , forgive me, for this is not my intent.
All my life I have wished for world peace. About 7 years ago , whilst at that time I did not believe God existed , I had great Hope that God existed , for the sake of all the good people of the world , and indeed for the sake of all who believe in God. I prayed as I walked , virtually constantly , hoping that God existed for these reasons , and I prayed in the fouth and fifth year of this ,to be given words of wisdom to help me speak out with effect against the great wrongs done in the world. It seemed to me , that most Goverments run thier countries predominently from financial reasons , instead of on morale grounds , and I felt that this one one of the great wrongs happening , that helps society collapse , as Im sure you will all agree. People always say you cant do anything , but I dissagree , and say you can , you can try , and try I have. I wrote letters to all politcal parties , twice , here in my home of the UK , to try and change their views , and indeed I opened up a website to tackle these problems. This was of no, or very little effect though , for as I realise now I had anger within me , and whilst I had Love , my Love had at that time not reached its full potential , and my words fell flat. 2 years ago , this month , a very good person with whom I have unbreakable Love with , sent me 2 scriptures from the Bible , which had me on my knees in prayer and thanks , for they spoke directly at me , they were 1 corinthians 13 , and Ephesians 6 , all the words in these 2 chapters were me , and for those who do not know these passages , the most effective verse was " 12For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places " I was hit by God , I was spoken to , and this was the start of my full Faith in God , brought about by Hope , and good intent. Ever since then I always pray with all in the world in mind , and I always pray for the confusion that brings about evil , to be disapated , and for all to find comfort , with truth in my heart and soul to the core. Many times a day , evr since then , The Spirit of God has guided me , and taught me , all I seek , it appears anywhere it seems, Gods word , in answer to your direct line of thought. My prayers to be given words of wisdom , were answered , and for 2 weeks, at the start of this last 2 year period, I was given words of wisdom , that had great effect with all I talked with , but then it stopped , and as I prayed and asked why my words of wisdom had stopped, I was told , again after prayers , and opening a page on a good book at random " we gave you words of wisdom , so you may see our power , but we have taken it away mow, for we do not fight with words of wisdom ". At the time I did not understand , but here I am now , after 2 years of being guided and taught by God , to confidently say , it is not wisdom we need , but understanding , and that this understanding will help bring comfort with respect to all. There ar esome who say God does not exist , but I say he does, at the very least he exists in peoples minds, and people take actions , and draw comfort , from God. I know however without doubt in all i see , and the ways I have been taught and shown , that God does exist , and he talks to us in this mortal realm very supbtly , and in many ways , when we choose to listen , for his voive is very gentle , and is easily hidden from us , by all the polloutions and confusions in the world , more particularly in desire for ourselves. Knowing how God has communicated to me , and taught me , through guiding people to write words that are laid down to be read in the future by others in , maybe a day , maybe a week , a year , a decade , or in a thousand years , I now am of full Faith that all the main religious books in the world contain some Truth in God , for I believe this to be so. And from my own stance, I also read words written by Islamic teachings , and I know that they are the words of God aswell , and I give praise and thanks to God for giving me this understanding. God, who exists , is the God of us all. And I pray for the day where all the confusions between various religious groups , will cease , and we may all gently live in Gods Love , which reaches out to all I hope you may all join with me, and the many others who are the same , in praying for world peace and understanding , and the evils of greed and desire are laid useless , from the effect of good will I give praise and thanks to God , and as I noticed on an Islamic site which lifted me up to now gently speah these words , that said " can you truly say to the core of your heart I love you my Lord" , I do say I Love you my Lord , and I give praise and thanks to your power for giving me understanding , and I thank you our God , for letting these words pass peacfully through my fingers In all Hope , with Full Faith , I hope that these words may bring comfort to atleast a few people With Love for all De
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AnDe
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My compliments to this site , it greets you with open arms and warmth.
After just gently understanding a little more every day at times, ill just add this post I made in Hope that it may help some , and I wish all that talk on this whole site peace. May I just gently add to this , We are children , we make mistakes. It is from our mistakes we learn, Our Father teaches us , and knows we will make mistakes ,and as we do our children, we forgive them. And for us the children, we benefit from our mistakes by gaining understanding , and even if we make the same mistakes again , it really doesnt matter , for God probably wanted us to make these mistakes to gain understanding , and I say these words to all , who may hurt inside thinking theyve done wrong , for them to find peace , and feel the truth off the fact it is all alright , we are all being educated in our own individual ways by the Spirit. I will be bold enough to say , that the more we suffer , both mentally and physically , the more understanding we recieve , by the grace of God. And the more peace we gain. Have hope any that despair , the greatest pain of all is thoughts of yourselves , empty your mind of yourselves , and of desire for you , and you will be richer than any material possesion , which is worthless , compared to the comfort and understanding of the Spirit of God. With Love for ALL , and full knowing God is Real , again I give praise to my Lord , to whom I gently bow my head with humble awareness of how much i dont know, and how imperfect I am , but I am off full Faith in , to hope that the Spirit put these words here to help maybe 1 person , in 10 years. Amen , in Love and Truth , all Faith , and always with Hope De |
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truthnowcome
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![]() Posted: 16 September 2011 at 2:43pm |
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Helo Ande, firsly I must say welcome to this
forum! Your
plea is a good signal of a sincear person in what you believe. I take your
quote seriously; using understanding is the way forward. Do you
believe there is only one God ruling the entire universe? I’ve ask that
question because in Islam we were thought that if there were more than one God
there would be confusion in the universe, each one will fight for their portion
to rule, what to creat and what not to creat, ect. Do you believe that? Br. zainool |
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truthnowcome
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![]() Posted: 16 September 2011 at 2:57pm |
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Originally posted by AnDe
My compliments to this site , it greets you with open arms and warmth. After just gently understanding a little more every day at times, ill just add this post I made in Hope that it may help some , and I wish all that talk on this whole site peace. May I just gently add to this , We are children , we make mistakes. It is from our mistakes we learn, Our Father teaches us , and knows we will make mistakes ,and as we do our children, we forgive them. And for us the children, we benefit from our mistakes by gaining understanding , and even if we make the same mistakes again , it really doesnt matter , for God probably wanted us to make these mistakes to gain understanding , and I say these words to all , who may hurt inside thinking theyve done wrong , for them to find peace , and feel the truth off the fact it is all alright , we are all being educated in our own individual ways by the Spirit. I will be bold enough to say , that the more we suffer , both mentally and physically , the more understanding we recieve , by the grace of God. And the more peace we gain. Have hope any that despair , the greatest pain of all is thoughts of yourselves , empty your mind of yourselves , and of desire for you , and you will be richer than any material possesion , which is worthless , compared to the comfort and understanding of the Spirit of God. With Love for ALL , and full knowing God is Real , again I give praise to my Lord , to whom I gently bow my head with humble awareness of how much i dont know, and how imperfect I am , but I am off full Faith in , to hope that the Spirit put these words here to help maybe 1 person , in 10 years. Amen , in Love and Truth , all Faith , and always with Hope De Helo Ande, Just to add, this is how Allah (S) described the
relationship of Muslims and true Christians: …And nearest among them in love to the Believers (Muslins) wilt thou
find those who say, We are Christians
Because among
these are men devoted to learning and who have renounced the world, and they
are not arrogant. (Q.5:82) |
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AnDe
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My own firm Faith in God is now to help others find their Faith ,and to listen and understand more of many things. this letter I was writting I think has turned into the post I should reply with , I wanted to give a decent reply , please forgive me if it seems too much , in my greatest hopes this post rings true with yourself. In loss we find The Spirit of God Us all here are all the same , we are all made of the same flesh and blood , the same as all human beings. What makes us different , is our own individual Spirits, it gives us all our own individual personalities , our own charismas ,our own capability of spreading warmth to those around us. Where does this Spirit come from , it is there when were born , and grows and becomes more fuller during our lives , and indeed peoples Spirits can become confused and hurt , and create problems for those around them , but some peoples Spirits become like a burning beacon of good , and these people put so much joy in ourselves , calm us , and strengthen us. When we die , our flesh withers , but what of our Spirit , it remains. Our Spirit remains, we all feel it , those who have lost loved ones , we feel it clearer and brighter than at any other time before, and yes whilst we hurt so deep to the core from the loss , we can gently take calming from the great warm beacon of light from the Spirit, that will help us and strengthen us as our own Spirits grow through and understand more. And whilst some may not believe in God , you are aware of Spirit, and it is this Spirit between us all in which we are united , the whole of us , in unity , and in Love, may you gently take comfort from the concept of God , for the understanding of the Spirit , which is written within pages very sublty of all religious books, and is full of Truth and Love in the understanding of our own individual Spirits , that help us find peace in ourselves from all, it is Gods Love , and it reaches out in warmth , and comforts even those who think they dont believe. This is the Truth in The Spirit of God , somehow , mysteriously writen in great lengths and depths throughout ALL , and is very very real , and this is how I have my Faith in God The real lessons on many aspects of life, what is right and what is wrong and why , are slowly revealed the more we seek , if we seek in Truth we will find the Truth written by God , but you ask me do I believe in one God , well , yes , but i know that i will never be able to comprehend that absololoute enormity of what the ALL is , my mind is not capable, I know, all I know is I know it is , for it is God , and Gods word , and understanding the various Truths in Gods word is all i can do , i know God is , but i cant tell you what God is , except for apparently everything , for myself, i draw comfort from knowing I dont need to know the whole picture , just my part , which to me as many of us is to have Truth. I read another post on this site, someone was trying franticly to find the word of God written ,and was having problems , he seemed like he couldnt hear , though he searched in earnest of desire to hear God speak , but to hear Gods word , you must be these things pure and true to your own Spirit in all Truth to hear and understand what lessons are given us. To seek these things without Truth with yourself can only touch on the an awareness of the True Word , and is as so , it is with Hope we seek and find our Faith , with Truth and Love for All , that we find The Spirit of God , and can then hear. It is hard at times to learn the lessons of Truth with ourselves , at times we think we have done no wrong , but gently I think we realise we have , in various ways , and on full understanding we eventually just bow our heads down in acceptance of God, and find fault in ourselves , for we can not be as perfect as God , our lessons are never ending. I think when you do hear the word of Truth in God though , that the true books its written in are there written for us all, it is there in many different ways and speaks to us all , to our individual selves on specific parts of ourselves, at various situations through our lives , but I think that as said through this post , that if you arent these things true to the core in all Love that you will not hear the Truth,of that particular lesson , but mearly gaze on it through a mist , and i feel that it can cause confusion and frustration when not understood , it All can not be for us all , because we are not as big as it All , we can never comprehend it all , just our part , it talks to us all individually in our own situations , and on realising the truth contained in many writtings , how can God not be believed in , for what created such wisdoms , of which i have such little understanding. God is All , those who believe believe , and if God is All , God is in All , or God would not be All , as He Is, even if we dont understand it , I accept it, and my only hope from writing all this , is that it may help someone just get that final bit of understanding that clinches to them the simple Truth of Gods word and is there for us all to listen to when we choose. I thank you so much for your reply , I prayed for encouragement for 3 days , for at times I feel like I am so low for daring to think I might possibly have a little understanding , but to hear a genuine reply like yours , makes me feel like it is Truth , and that you and many others both seek and hear Truth , and in this you have my highest respect , and together we all stand by God , and help him help us lay at ease the confusions in the world , in all their many ways. I wish you well Truth , and all who may read De My thanks to God for all our lessons |
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truthnowcome
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My own firm Faith in God is now to help
others find their Faith ,and to listen and understand more of many things. this
letter I was writting I think has turned into the post I should reply with , I
wanted to give a decent reply , please forgive me if it seems too much , in my
greatest hopes this post rings true with yourself. In loss we find The Spirit of God Us all here are all the same , we are all
made of the same flesh and blood , the same as all human beings. What makes us different , is our own
individual Spirits, it gives us all our own individual personalities , our own
charismas ,our own capability of spreading warmth to those around us. Where does this Spirit come from , it is
there when were born , and grows and becomes more fuller during our lives , and
indeed peoples Spirits can become confused and hurt , and create problems for
those around them , but some peoples Spirits become like a burning beacon of
good , and these people put so much joy in ourselves , calm us , and strengthen
us. When we die , our flesh withers , but what of
our Spirit , it remains. Our Spirit remains, we all feel it , those
who have lost loved ones , we feel it clearer and brighter than at any other
time before, and yes whilst we hurt so deep to the core from the loss , we can
gently take calming from the great warm beacon of light from the Spirit, that
will help us and strengthen us as our own Spirits grow through and understand
more. And whilst some may not believe in God , you
are aware of Spirit, and it is this Spirit between us all in which we are
united , the whole of us , in unity , and in Love, may you gently take comfort
from the concept of God , for the understanding of the Spirit , which is
written within pages very sublty of all religious books, and is full of Truth
and Love in the understanding of our own individual Spirits , that help us find
peace in ourselves from all, it is Gods Love , and it reaches out in warmth ,
and comforts even those who think they dont believe. This is the Truth in The
Spirit of God , somehow , mysteriously writen in great lengths and depths
throughout ALL , and is very very real , and this is how I have my Faith in God
The real lessons on many aspects of life,
what is right and what is wrong and why , are slowly revealed the more we seek
, if we seek in Truth we will find the Truth written by God , but you ask me do
I believe in one God , well , yes , but i know that i will never be able to
comprehend that absololoute enormity of what the ALL is , my mind is not
capable, I know, all I know is I know it is , for it is God , and Gods word ,
and understanding the various Truths in Gods word is all i can do , i know God
is , but i cant tell you what God is , except for apparently everything , for
myself, i draw comfort from knowing I dont need to know the whole picture ,
just my part , which to me as many of us is to have Truth. I thank you so much for your reply , I prayed
for encouragement for 3 days , for at times I feel like I am so low for daring
to think I might possibly have a little understanding , but to hear a genuine
reply like yours , makes me feel like it is Truth , and that you and many
others both seek and hear Truth , and in this you have my highest respect , and
together we all stand by God , and help him help us lay at ease the confusions
in the world , in all their many ways. I wish you well Truth , and all who may read De My thanks to God for all our lessons Hi Ande, after reading your post I think you are lost in some ways; you are not sure what you believe. It seems to me you believe what ideas pup up on your mind to be God talking to you; but my friend that is not true. The word from God which is the Quran informs us that all Humans there are five angels appointed to each one of them, they have specific duties to do; one is on your right shoulder and one is on your left shoulder to record your good and bad deeds, also one is infront of you and one is at the back of you to protect you which is our guardian angels, most importantly the last one which decended upon you and left some time; that is the one which inspire you with good thought. The word of God addresses them as angels sometime and RUH (spirit) sometime. |
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Ande,
open your mind to the real truth, I hope this article helps: Spirits really is a supernatural entity, a supernatural being that does not
have a physical body, for example some are call, ghost, and demon, Jinn and
angel etc. In reality they are in a form of conscious energy. In the Greek
Septuagint O.T. (LXX) pneuma is for
spirit and in Hebrew Ruah is for Spirit and in Arabic Rooh is for Spirit. In Islam we
understand them as the human spirit, jinn and angel. This is what the word of
God informed us of them. Read this article to refresh your mind, I have written
it some tine ago: v THE HUMAN SPIRIT: The Human’s
spirit is that which Allah (S) created for each person at the beginning, we were
and are spiritual being and we were sent here on earth at our appointed time
until the Day of Judgment. Allah (S) said: Ø
فَإِذَا سَوَّيْتُهُ وَنَفَخْتُ فِيهِ مِن
رُّوحِي فَقَعُوا لَهُ سَاجِدِينَ (38:72) Ø Faitha sawwaytuhu wanafakhtu feehi min roohee faqaAAoo lahu sajideena (Qur’an 38:72) Ø "When I have fashioned him (in due proportion) and breathed into
him of My spirit, fall ye down
in obeisance unto him." (Qur’an 38:72) When Allah (S) says: “We breathed into him of my spirit!” Does that
mean the spirit that Allah (S) bread
into Adam (S) is Allah (S) or part of Allah (S)? No! How do we know that? Allah
(S) gives us the answer in his Noble Book the Qur’an, He mentioned: Ø Yawma yaqoomu alrroohu
waalmalaikatu saffan la yatakallamoona illa
man athina lahu alrrahmanu waqala sawaban Ø “The Day that the spirit and the angels will stand forth in ranks,
none shall speak except any who is permitted by (Allah) Most Gracious, and He
will say what is right.” (Qur’an 78:38) On the Day of Judgment the Spirit (Rooh) and the angels will
stand forth in ranks in front of Allah (S). If the spirit (Ruh) was Allah
(S) then that would mean on the Day of Judgment Allah (S) will stand forth in
front of himself which is incorrect. When Allah (S) used the term “My Spirit” it
simply means everything belongs to Allah (S), example: My throne, My universe,
My servants, My angels, My Spirit etc.; all was created by Allah (S) for a purpose. That spirit
which Allah (S) breathed into Adam (S) is the spirit he created for Adam (S)
and after that he created all the spirits of Adam’s descendants at the
beginning. They were and are spiritual being and they were sent here on earth
at their appointed time until the Day of Judgment. It is mentioned in His Noble
Book the Qur’an: Ø “When thy Lord drew forth from the Children
of Adam - from their loins - their descendants, and made them testify
concerning themselves, (saying): “Am I not your Lord (who cherishes and
sustains you)?” They said: “Yea! We do testify!” (This), lest ye should say on
the Day of Judgment: “Varily, we have been unaware of this” Ø Or lest ye should say: “It was Our fathers
before us may have taken false gods, but we are (their) descendants after them:
wilt Thou then destroy us who took others as partnesrin worship along with
Allah, and we were (merely their) decendants after them; will you then destroy
us because of the deeds of men?” Al-A'raf (The Heights) 7:172-173 All the children of Adam’s were created at the
beginning in spirit (Rooh)and were testifying concerning the one true God-Allah
(S) that He is their Lord, so that, on the Day of Judgment they will have no
excuses. It is also in the bible,
Prophet Solomon is reported in Proverbs 8:22-27
(NIV) to have said: Ø "22 The LORD brought me forth as the first of his works,
before his deeds of old; 23 I was appointed from eternity, from the beginning, before the world
began. 24 When there were no oceans, I was given birth, when there were no
springs abounding with water; 25 before the mountains were settled in place, before the hills, I was
given birth, 26 before he made the earth or its fields or any of the dust of the
world. 27 I was there when he set the heavens in place, when he marked out the horizon on the
face of the deep, According to Job 38:4 and 21 (NIV), God addresses Prophet Job as follows: Ø "Where were you when I laid the
earth's foundation? Tell me, if you understand. 5 Who marked off its dimensions? Surely you know! Who stretched a
measuring line across it? Ø 21 Surely you know, for
you were already born! You have lived so many years! Why we do not remember what
happen in the beginning? Allah (S) tells us in the Noble Qur’an: Ø By the time, verily Man is in lost, except such as have faith, and do
righteous deeds, and (join together) in the mutual enjoining of truth, and of
patience and constancy. (Q.103:1-3) By the passing of time: Time begins with Allah’s (S)
creations and we were created in the beginning to witness the one true Creator
Allah (S) before we were place here on earth. We then become forgetful and ungrateful of the
Creator Allah (S), we are in a state of lost or forgetfulness by the passing
of time, and to get back there we have to put our trust and have faith in
Allah (S) by following His reminder (The Qur’an and the prophet’s (S) Sunnah) Allah (S)
said: Ø وَمَنْ أَعْرَضَ عَن ذِكْرِي فَإِنَّ لَهُ مَعِيشَةً ضَنكًا وَنَحْشُرُهُ يَوْمَ
الْقِيَامَةِ أَعْمَى
(20:124) Ø Waman aAArada AAan thikree fainna lahu maAAeeshatan
dankan wanahshuruhu yawma alqiyamati aAAman
Ø
"But
whosoever turns away from My Message (Dhikr), verily for him is a life narrowed down, and
We shall raise him up blind on the Day of Judgment. He will say: "O my
Lord! why hast Thou raised me up blind, while I had sight (before)?"
(Allah)) will say: "Thus didst Thou, when Our Signs came unto thee,
disregard them: so wilt thou, this day, be disregarded." 20:124-26 (Y.
Ali) The Arabic word there is
“dhikr” which mean “reminder” and it translates as “Message” by Y. All. So the Qur’an is the “reminder” and
it reminds us of whom we are and where we came from where we have to go and how
to get there. v THE HOLY SPIRIT Now that we understood what
is a human spirit, the next question what is the Holy Spirit? It simple, all
spirits that comes from Allah (S) is Holy. However, the title “Holy Spirit” was given to the messenger of Allah (S)
“Jibreel/Gabriel (S)”. The scholar of Islam explains: Shaykh al-Islam Ibn Taymiyah said: the majority
of scholars said that the Holy Spirit
refers to Jibreel (peace be upon him), and
that Allaah called him al-Rooh al-Ameen,
Rooh al-Qudus
and Jibreel."
(Daqaa'iq al-Tafseer,
part 1, p. 310) Proof of that is in Qur’an, Allah (S)
commanded the prophet (S) true Gabriel: Ø “Say: Whoever is an enemy to Gabriel-for
he brings down the (revelation) to thy heart by Allah's will, a
confirmation of what went before, and guidance and glad tidings for those who
believe,-“ (Qur’an 2:97) Ø Qul man kana AAaduwwan lijibreela
fainnahu nazzalahu AAala qalbika biithni Allahi musaddiqan
lima bayna yadayhi wahudan wabushra lilmumineena (Q.2:97) In the above verse is say Gabriel (S) brought
the revelation. In the verse below it says the “Holy Spirit” brought the
revelation which means Gabriel (S) is the “Holy Spirit” (Roohu alqudus): Ø Qul nazzalahu roohu alqudusi
min rabbika bialhaqqi
liyuthabbita allatheena amanoo wahudan wabushra
lilmuslimeena Ø “Say, the Holy Spirit
has brought the revelation from thy Lord in Truth, in order to strengthen
those who believe, and as a Guide and Glad Tidings to Muslims. (Qur’an16:102) Although Gabriel (S) has the
title “Roohu alqudus” (Holy Spirit) in another verse he was called “Spirit (Rooh)” alone in short and was
translates as “angel” and that was at the announcement to Mary of birth of
Jesus (S), it read: Ø Faittakhathat min
doonihim hijaban faarsalna ilayha roohana
fatamaththala laha basharan sawiyyan (Qur’an 19:17) Ø She placed a screen (to screen herself) from them; then We sent her our angel, and he appeared
before her as a man in all respects. (Qur’an 19:17) The
word used there is “ilayha roohana”. The reason why it translates as “angel”
is because it was Gabriel (S) who visits Mary .Spirit doesn’t take form as a man! That is how Angel
Gabriel (S) appears on earth when he comes in contact with human being; he
appears as a human being. The verse below conforms that it was Gabriel (S): Ø Ith qalati almalaikatu ya maryamu inna Allaha
yubashshiruki bikalimatin minhu ismuhu almaseehu AAeesa ibnu
maryama wajeehan fee alddunya waalakhirati wamina
almuqarrabeena Ø “Behold! the angels said: "O
Mary! Allah giveth thee glad tidings of a Word from Him: his name will be
Christ Jesus, the son of Mary, held in honour in this world and the Hereafter
and of (the company of) those nearest to Allah.” Q.3:45 (Y. Ali) The word used there is almalaikatu
( the angels). The bible says the same
thing: Ø “And
in the sixth month the angel Gabriel
was sent from God unto a city of Galilee, named Nazareth, 27To a virgin espoused to a man whose
name was Joseph, of the house of David; and the virgin's name was Mary.” Luke 1:26-27 However, in Matthew 1:20 it
mentioned: Ø “But while he thought on these things,
behold, the angel of the LORD
appeared unto him in a dream, saying, Joseph, thou son of David, fear not to
take unto thee Mary thy wife: for that which is conceived in her is of the Holy Ghost.” Matthew 1:20 There is a misunderstanding of the
usage of word by the scholars. In Joseph’s dream, the angel of the Lord was Gabriel (S) and he said: “for that which is conceived in her is of the Holy Ghost.” Now, because the word Holy Ghost used
there the scholars of Islam took it for Gabriel (S) and that is because Allah
(S) address Gabriel (S) as Holy Ghost (roohu
alqudus) as I have explained above, but look what Allah (S) says in the
Qur’an: Ø “And (remember) her who guarded her chastity:
We breathed into her of Our spirit, and We made her and her son a sign
for all peoples”. (Qur’an 21:91) Ø Waallatee ahsanat
farjaha fanafakhna feeha min roohina wajaAAalnaha waibnaha ayatan lilAAalameena (Qur’an 21:91) Ø Here also: Ø Wamaryama ibnata AAimrana allatee ahsanat farjaha
fanafakhna feehi min roohina
wasaddaqat bikalimati rabbiha wakutubihi wakanat
mina alqaniteena (Qur’an
66:12) Ø “And Mary the daughter of 'Imran, who guarded her chastity; and We
breathed into (her body) of Our spirit
and she testified to the truth of the words of her Lord and of His Revelations,
and was one of the devout (servants).” (Qur’an 66:12) Allah (S) said: “We breathed into (her body) of Our spirit!” When the bible used the
word Holy Ghost, it is referring to a Spirit from Allah (S) and when Allah
(S) used the term “My Spirit and Our Spirit” that does not in any way mean the
Spirit is Allah (S) or part of Him as what the Christian’s Scholar are saying
that the Holy Ghost is God Almighty. When Allah (S) used the term “My Spirit” it
simply means everything belongs to Allah (S), example: My throne, My universe,
My servants, My angels, My Spirit etc.; all was created by Allah (S) for a purpose. This verse below clearly shows that Allah
(S) does not referrers to Himself when He used the term “Our Spirit” (min
roohina): Ø
يَوْمَ يَقُومُ الرُّوحُ وَالْمَلَائِكَةُ
صَفًّا لَّا يَتَكَلَّمُونَ إِلَّا مَنْ أَذِنَ لَهُ الرحْمَنُ وَقَالَ صَوَابًا (78:38) Ø Yawma yaqoomu alrroohu
waalmalaikatu saffan
la yatakallamoona illa man athina lahu alrrahmanu
waqala sawaban Ø “The Day that the spirit and the angels will stand forth in ranks,
none shall speak except any who is permitted by (Allah) Most Gracious, and He
will say what is right.” (Qur’an 78:38) Jesus (S) was described as a Spirit proceeding from Allah (Roohun
minhu) but he is not Allah (S): Ø Ya ahla alkitabi la taghloo fee deenikum wala
taqooloo AAala Allahi illa alhaqqa innama
almaseehu AAeesa ibnu maryama rasoolu Allahi wakalimatuhu
alqaha ila maryama waroohun
minhu…(Q.4:171) Ø “O People of the Book!
Commit no excesses in your religion: Nor say of Allah aught but the truth. Christ Jesus the son of Mary was
(no more than) a Messenger of Allah and His word
(BE), which
He bestowed on Mary, and a Spirit proceeding from Him
(Roohun minhu)…(Q.4:171) And Allah (S) strengthens
Jesus (S) with “Rooh-alqudus [Gabriel (S)]”: Ø Ith qala Allahu ya
AAeesa ibna maryama othkur niAAmatee AAalayka waAAala walidatika
ith ayyadtuka biroohi alqudusi (Qur’an 5:110) Ø Then will Allah say: "O Jesus the son of Mary! Recount My favour to
thee and to thy mother. Behold! I strengthened thee with the holy spirit… (Qur’an 5:110) Also: Ø Walaqad atayna moosa
alkitaba waqaffayna min baAAdihi bialrrusuli waatayna AAeesa ibna maryama
albayyinati waayyadnahu biroohi
alqudusi (Qur’an 2:87) Ø We gave Moses the Book and followed him up
with a succession of apostles; We gave Jesus the son of Mary Clear (Signs) and strengthened
him with the holy spirit…
(Qur’an 2:87) It is also in the bible according to Matthew3:16 Ø
And
Jesus, when he was baptized…lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw
the Spirit of God descending
like a dove, and lighting upon him…
Matthew3:16 Note: The Spirit of God there is not God Almighty! It is
Gabriel (S) comes from God Almighty and he descended like a dove and
lighting upon him. Allah (S) also strengthens the Believers (Muslims) with spirit from
Himself (roohin minhu): Ø La tajidu qawman yuminoona biAllahi waalyawmi alakhiri yuwaddoona
man hadda Allaha warasoolahu walaw kanoo abaahum
aw abnaahum aw ikhwanahum aw AAasheeratahum olaika kataba
fee quloobihimu aleemana waayyadahum biroohin minhu wayudkhiluhum
jannatin tajree min tahtiha alanharu khalideena
feeha radiya Allahu AAanhum waradoo AAanhu olaika
hizbu Allahi ala inna hizba Allahi humu
almuflihoona (Qur’an
58:22) Ø “Thou wilt not find any people who
believe in Allah and the Last Day, loving those who oppose Allah and His
Messenger, even though they were their fathers or their sons, or their
brothers, or their kindred. For such He has written Faith in their hearts, and strengthened
them with a spirit from Himself. And He will admit them to Gardens beneath
which Rivers flow, to dwell therein (for ever). Allah will be well pleased with
them, and they with Him. They are the Party of Allah (Hezbullah). Truly it is
the Party of Allah that will achieve Success.” (Qur’an 58:22) And Allah (S) said He: Ø RafeeAAu alddarajati
thoo alAAarshi yulqee alrrooha min amrihi AAala
man yashao min AAibadihi liyunthira yawma alttalaqi (Qur’an 40:15) Ø “Raised high above ranks (or degrees), (He is) the Lord of the Throne
(of Authority): by His Command doth He send the spirit (of inspiration) to any of His servants he pleases, that
it may warn (men) of the Day of Mutual Meeting,” (Qur’an 40:15) But he Allah (S) also said
when they ask thee concerning the spirit
(of inspiration). Say: Ø Wayasaloonaka AAani alrroohi quli alrroohu
min amri rabbee wama ooteetum mina alAAilmi illa qaleelan (Qur’an 17:85) Ø ‘The spirit (cometh) by
command of my Lord: of knowledge it
is only a little that is communicated to you, (O men!)’" (Qur’an
17:85) Note: All spirits that proceeded from
Allah (S) are holy, thus, they are Holy Spirits! It is mentioned in Qur’an 42:51 : Ø “It is not fitting for a man that Allah should speak to him except by
inspiration, or from behind a veil, or by the sending of a messenger to reveal,
with Allah’s permission, what Allah wills: for he is most high, most wise.”
(Q.42:51) That verse is very important
to clarify how revelations come. It mentioned three ways: By inspiration,
or from behind a veil, or by
the sending of a messenger to
reveal. ·
By
inspiration: receiving the
message without seeing any one (hearing from the inside and having vision). ·
From
behind a veil: The ascension
of Muhammad (S) to the Heaven where he (S) spoke with Allah (S) behind a veil. ·
By
the sending of a messenger to
reveal: Gabriel/Jibreel (S) come as a man. The God of the bible has
(Holy) Spirits by the thousand. It is mentioned in Rev.4:5 Ø “And out of the throne preceded lightnings and thunderings and voices:
and there were seven lamps of fire burning before the throne, which are the
seven Spirits of God.” Rev.4:5 Ø And before the throne there was a sea of glass like unto crystal: and in
the midst of the throne, and round about the throne, were four beasts full
of eyes before and behind. Rev.4:6
What are these eyes? They
represented Spirits: Ø …and seven eyes, which
are the seven Spirits of God sent
forth into all the earth. Rev.5:6 Ø And the four beasts had each of them six wings about him; and they were full
of eyes within: and they rest
not day and night, saying, Holy, holy, holy, LORD God Almighty, which was, and
is, and is to come. Rev.4:8 Eye represents “spirit” and
those spirits are spirits from God Almighty and they are Holy. What are they
doing? They are praising God Almighty saying: “Holy, holy, holy, LORD God Almighty”. So we can see God Almighty
has Holy Spirits by the thousands! The Spirit (Ruh) and the angels will stand
forth in front of Allah (S): Ø
يَوْمَ يَقُومُ الرُّوحُ وَالْمَلَائِكَةُ
صَفًّا لَّا يَتَكَلَّمُونَ إِلَّا مَنْ أَذِنَ لَهُ الرحْمَنُ وَقَالَ صَوَابًا (78:38) Ø Yawma yaqoomu alrroohu waalmalaikatu saffan la
yatakallamoona illa man athina lahu alrrahmanu waqala sawaban (Qur’an 78:38) Ø “The Day that the spirit
and the angels will stand forth in ranks, none shall speak except any
who is permitted by (Allah) Most Gracious, and He will say what is right.”
(Qur’an 78:38) So as you see Ande, don’t be confused and believe
God is talking to you. And another
point God is not the All; He is in
Heaven, the word of God said so. Do Christians not believe that Jesus (S) is in
Heaven sitting at the right side of God’s hand? To do that he ascended to the
heavens where God Almight is; God is not in Human!
You are really a confused child and your simple
truth is just and idea pupping up in your mind. I do not mean to offend you but
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Hi Br Zainool A very nice post , and you hold a wealth of imformation , of which im very intrested in. My last post was writen in grief at the loss of someone , and was intended for some who dont believe , to maybe open an awareness of God to them ,and maybe i shouldnt have posted it here , but i wanted to give a reply , and all i could do is say what was in my mind at that time, and yes , i am as a confused child , as many of us are at times , and my main confusion is my awareness now of all the words written leading to the belief in God, but the confusion being the different sections of religion instead of just God. You are greatly eductaed in teachings and learnings and i read with great intrest all you have wrote , with warmth , and no , there was no offence taken atall , your words were good , and helped me , and indeed you are probablly light years ahead of me in my own journey of discovery in Faith of God , and indeed maybe I should have entitled this topic my statement of Faith , for it is nice to be able to say I believe in God , without being ridiculed for believing in God. I wish you well Br.Zainool , and yes . Peace De Edited by AnDe - 20 September 2011 at 1:28pm |
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