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Quote Taiji_Tao Replybullet Posted: 05 July 2013 at 6:05pm

  I apologize for the delay in responding to your post back in January.  I hope all has been well since then and that this section of the Forum still has an active interest.

  Regarding which versions of the Tao Te Ching do I use; the vast majority of translations are based on the same faulty translation in the 1800's by Orientalists.  With this said, however, there are three decent translations if a person has background training on the system and philosophy or access to a qualified teacher. 

  Decent versions (still with some errors):
"Revealing the Tao Te Ching" by Hu, Xuezhi
"The Complete Works of Lao Tzu (Tao Teh Ching & Hua Hu Ching) by Ni, Hua-Ching
"Tao Te Ching" by Gia-Fu Feng and Jane English
All are available on and possibly local libraries, especially in larger cities. 

Yes, referring to Chapter 42: you are correct, it shows the creation of the Universe in its smallest and largest forms by Tao (God/Allah). 

The last sentence of Chapter 4 is not referring to Lord in the Christian sense of the word, Lord our God, Lord our Saviour etc....  Rather, in the sense of Emperors, Leaders, Lords....For most of Chinese history the leaders, especially Royal Family, were viewed as heavenly representatives on earth, similar to Catholic view of the Pope, Englands Monarchy etc...  What the verse is saying here is Tao precedes the Lord(s), predates the leaders, predates the earthly laws, predates history, predates creation matter how great the leader is Tao is greater, no matter how high or how advanced life becomes----Tao will always be higher!  Another way to view is that Tao (God) exists as the noumenon of the universe and depends on itself alone for its existence!

   Hence the text by Lao Tzu: "I only know it seems to appear before the Lord".  Again Tao means God/Allah so Lord cannot mean God, since Tao means God....again more similar to Islamic/Arabic texts and meaning than Judeo/Christian where Lord can mean leader, God etc....

I hope that is clear and furthers the discussion. 

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