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Quote Taiji_Tao Replybullet Posted: 05 July 2013 at 6:05pm
Salam,

  I apologize for the delay in responding to your post back in January.  I hope all has been well since then and that this section of the Forum still has an active interest.

  Regarding which versions of the Tao Te Ching do I use; the vast majority of translations are based on the same faulty translation in the 1800's by Orientalists.  With this said, however, there are three decent translations if a person has background training on the system and philosophy or access to a qualified teacher. 

  Decent versions (still with some errors):
"Revealing the Tao Te Ching" by Hu, Xuezhi
"The Complete Works of Lao Tzu (Tao Teh Ching & Hua Hu Ching) by Ni, Hua-Ching
"Tao Te Ching" by Gia-Fu Feng and Jane English
All are available on Amazon.com and possibly local libraries, especially in larger cities. 

Yes, referring to Chapter 42: you are correct, it shows the creation of the Universe in its smallest and largest forms by Tao (God/Allah). 

The last sentence of Chapter 4 is not referring to Lord in the Christian sense of the word, Lord our God, Lord our Saviour etc....  Rather, in the sense of Emperors, Leaders, Lords....For most of Chinese history the leaders, especially Royal Family, were viewed as heavenly representatives on earth, similar to Catholic view of the Pope, Englands Monarchy etc...  What the verse is saying here is Tao precedes the Lord(s), predates the leaders, predates the earthly laws, predates history, predates creation etc....no matter how great the leader is Tao is greater, no matter how high or how advanced life becomes----Tao will always be higher!  Another way to view is that Tao (God) exists as the noumenon of the universe and depends on itself alone for its existence!

   Hence the text by Lao Tzu: "I only know it seems to appear before the Lord".  Again Tao means God/Allah so Lord cannot mean God, since Tao means God....again more similar to Islamic/Arabic texts and meaning than Judeo/Christian where Lord can mean leader, God etc....

I hope that is clear and furthers the discussion. 

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Quote truthfull Replybullet Posted: 09 May 2014 at 12:23pm
About islam

Islam contain miracles

Islam talk about signs of judgment day

Sunrise from west is major sign of judgment day

Scientist proved it

Gravity will reset in polar reverse so
That sun will rise from west



•Islam proved to be true religion

Jews scholar say islam true

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Jw5SHH9eQb4


• name prophet muhammad in bible

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wm3sZfPwv1g

• jesus confirm he is prophet

Luke 13:31

33 But I must go on my way today, tomorrow, and the next day. A prophet of God cannot be killed outside of Jerusalem.


http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Luke 13:31-35


• most important grave prove islam only truth path

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FTwEkf_zOKM


• death confirm islam truth

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=O0U6HQS51Tk

• miracle of quran

• difference

Islam ask to believe in all prophets
With no exception


Quran is word of god /allah

But toesim doesn't have such thing

So do we follow human or creator

Quran miracle

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kmgY-2gLrk0




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Quote Caringheart Replybullet Posted: 12 May 2014 at 10:59am
Originally posted by Taiji_Tao

Hello,

...A final note the Sage Lao Tzu (author of Tao Teh Ching) said ....unless one becomes like a child and returns to that state of simplicity, humbling oneself, lowering oneself to Tao and submitting his will to the Will of Heaven then he cannot enter the gate of Heaven.....  If that does not clearly show the same message then I can find more. 

Peace be with you on your journey.
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Greetings Taiji_Tao,

Wow, I found what you shared to be so interesting.

Yshwe(known as Jesus) also said;

At the same time came the disciples unto Jesus, saying, Who is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven?

And Jesus called a little child unto him, and set him in the midst of them,

And said, Verily I say unto you, Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven.

Peace to you on your journeys also,
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Let us seek Truth together
Blessed be God forever
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Quote truthfull Replybullet Posted: 15 May 2014 at 10:45am
Purpose of life in islam to worship Creator

Allah say in quran :


And I did not create the jinn and mankind except to worship Me.


• After life judging

The Angel of Death comes to the [dying] believer, sits at his head and says, "O you good soul, come out and receive your Lord's forgiveness and pleasure." Then the soul flows out effortlessly just as water flows from the mouth of a waterskin. And the opposite for disbelievers


Prove :

Believer.


http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=l7Tk0wFYRig

Dis believer

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9PrQTTMFMR0


Notice: pain nothing to do with
Choking both of them injured


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