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Quote NABA Replybullet Posted: 05 June 2013 at 9:31am
it is because by this way we show our gratitude to Allah,Allah has given us so many things,U can't count the blessings of Allah be it the water,health,mountains,every single atom on this earth,Ramadhan is the month in which Allah gives us the chance to be patient,as mentioned in Surah Al Baqarah ch 2 v 183.Allah clearly mentions in Surah Al Ibrahim ch 14 v 7-The more we thank him,the more we get.similarly the more we strive in his way and ask for forgiveness in Sha Allah we will b successful in the hereafter.
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Quote Usmani Replybullet Posted: 06 June 2013 at 11:40am
Quote:Allah doesn't need to become human,for eg an engineer doesn't need to become a car whom he has created,Allah knows our hearts well,and one doesn't need to call Allah by words,our feelings are enough(ch 20 v 7)

Bronaz,
This is just to show you the power of God that He knows even what happening inside of each and every human living on this earth. Having this power why would He will take the human form? People crucifying Him. Does it make sense to you?
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Quote Caringheart Replybullet Posted: 06 June 2013 at 3:32pm
Originally posted by Usmani

Quote:Allah doesn't need to become human,for eg an engineer doesn't need to become a car whom he has created,Allah knows our hearts well,and one doesn't need to call Allah by words,our feelings are enough(ch 20 v 7)

Bronaz,
This is just to show you the power of God that He knows even what happening inside of each and every human living on this earth. Having this power why would He will take the human form? People crucifying Him. Does it make sense to you?

Greetings Usmani,
Of course it didn't make sense... it was totally counter intuitive to the thinking of the times... which is the greatest testimony to its Truth... it is precisely why its message is so powerful.  God's wisdom is so far above our own.  It was in the resurrection that all things were made clear.  Then the words which Yeshua had been speaking, finally came together and made sense to the people to whom He has been telling of these things... of what would come... and what it all meant.
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Hindsight is 20/20.  It is in the looking back we so often see things clearly.


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Let us seek Truth together
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Quote Usmani Replybullet Posted: 07 June 2013 at 11:12am
Greetings Caringheart,

What is the outcome of this resurrection? Which made things clear to people,Please share
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Quote Usmani Replybullet Posted: 10 June 2013 at 10:57am
Greetings Caringheart,

This is very important issue I hope you will answer it. If you don't have an answer let men know.



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Quote bronaz Replybullet Posted: 14 June 2013 at 8:49am
The resurrection was foretold by Jesus in the Gospels
"The Son of Man must suffer many things and be rejected by the elders and the chief priests and the scribes and be killed, and after three days rise again" (Mark 8:31; see also Matthew 17:22; Luke 9:22).
When the resurrection finally took place it proved that all that Jesus said was true and proved him to be God because only God can raise himself from the dead.
The reason Satan hates men is because God in his infinite wisdom knew that man would stray and this has been proven time and time again in the old testament.
Satan was originally an angel but he refused to accept the fact that he would have to worship Jesus when he became man and so he rebelled against God and was sent to hell. He hates man and so when Jesus did become man he did the worst he could do to him which is crucify him. Because he is God Jesus rose from the dead and defeated the plan of Satan.
The question that is asked is why the crucifixion..God could have chosen any number of ways to redeem mankind but he chose crucifixion because it really shows how much he loves us so much so that he is willing to die in order that we might be redeemed.
Since God is eternal the sacrifice on the cross is a perpetual sacrifice...that means it too is eternal and is valid as a means for us men to offer our sins and obtain forgiveness through that act and thus gain paradise.
The resurrection means that Jesus is still alive and those who accept Jesus, have their sins washed in his blood and have the gates of paradise opened to them.
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Quote Usmani Replybullet Posted: 21 June 2013 at 12:15pm
bronaz,

I am surprised to see that Christians are very keen to make Jesus (May God blessing upon Him) God.
What so ever you will find there in Gospel, you will believe in it? Whether it make sense or not? God is the creator of this universe so huge that we do not know from it is starting and where it is ending. Distance are in millions of light years. You said “Son of Man must suffer many things” why should He suffer? because He love so much, do you slab to yourself to show you love your children?

Friend there no easy ticket to Paradise, God suffers on your mistakes and you go to heaven.

Satan is created by God all the power he has is given to him by God and he crucify God .Friend think deeply what you are saying. You may say because God was in Human form that why satan manage it.

This is the actual problem here, one wrong believe will certainly make you believe in 100 other wrong concepts which are totally base less and illogical. Quran says

And surely, We have created many of the jinn and mankind for Hell. They have hearts wherewith they understand not, and they have eyes wherewith they see not, and they have ears wherewith they hear not (the truth). (Chaper 7 Verse 179)

Please ponder upon what I have said.

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Quote bronaz Replybullet Posted: 23 June 2013 at 9:27am
Dear Usmani,
I am keen to Call Jesus God because he is God.
Which father would not suffer so his child is better? If you are a father  would you risk your life to save your son. God is no different.
God created Angels, Lucifer thought that he was superior to humans and refused to worship God if he made himself Man, which is why he was cast into hell.
My concepts are very clear.
I believe Jesus to be God because he himself says so
John 8: 58 "Very truly I tell you," Jesus answered, "before Abraham was born, I am!". This is how God refers to himself when Moses asks him, what name shall he call him and he says "I AM".
2. Jesus is God because a virgin conceived him and the Angel Gabriel specifically says he will be called Son of the Most high Luke 1 : 32.
3. The Old Testament is filled with prophecy of the coming of the Messiah.
Here are just a few examples, Gen 3:15, Num 24:17, 2Sam 7:12-16, Isa 9:1-21, 11:1-16, Dan 9.
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