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Coffeecat
Female Islam Starter
Joined: 19 June 2011 Location: United States Online Status: Offline Posts: 6 |
![]() Topic: Aren't we so much more than what we wear?Posted: 19 June 2011 at 1:38pm |
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I am woman in my mid 30s, who has been a muslim since 18. I came to Islam as a young woman on a spiritual journey for the truth. For several years now I have struggled with the idea of hijab. I have not struggled with WEARING hijab, I have struggled with all this hoopla that surrounds hijab. As a muslim woman, I feel that I need to wear loose clothing that covers my body and a scarf that covers my head so that I can be recognized as a muslim woman. When I see women , sheikhs and articles discussing women and hijab , I just cringe. My relationship with my Lord is so personal, so intimate, it feels so much more compelling than what I am wearing. At a recent Khutbah the imam said to the "young sisters" that it was summer time and they needed to not be tempted and make sure they cover up properly and wear their hijabs. That advice is great and all, but come one...don't you have something else to tell us women? Why not start by advising women to read to their children, to bond with them , to pray and make duas, to go on nature walks and contemplate the creation of Allah. Maybe it is because I am the mother of a teenage daughter now. I want her to feel that there is so much more to Islam then following rituals and wearing hijab. There should be a spiritual connection. It just irks me that so much attention is given to what muslim women wear. I have been interviewed about the hijab and I told them "I don't understand what the big deal is. It's just clothes." Before I was a muslim I work high heels and stockings and that was way more oppressive than covering my hair. I also don't think the sky is going to fall and lightning is going to strike if a strand of hair comes out or a woman pushes some sleeve up. In the summer I have taken to not tightening my hijab around my neck since heat escapes from your neck. My neck is not open, but my scarf is loose so there is some space under my chin. I feel that it is st**id and ridiculous that I even have to explain or justify why I am wearing my hijab a certain way. I also regularly go to a ( private)beach in my "burqini" and while swimming the top of my hair regulary sticks out. It's funny that I am afraid to invite any muslim families to come to the beach with us because they may think ill of me if they realize how reckless I am with strands of hair from the top of my head. Thank you for letting me vent. |
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montada11
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Joined: 05 January 2011 Online Status: Offline Posts: 6 |
![]() Posted: 22 June 2011 at 2:44am |
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hello my sister
hijab isnot just cover to cover your hair
hijab has a great meaning for women
i undrestand you
you didnot born in muslim family so you dont know evrything about islam
hijap is proud for muslim woman
you alwyes think that you are a Precious gem
Whenever you save the price increased Thus, Muslim women are i will give you some sits help you to know more about islam
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Hayfa
Female Islam Senior Member
Joined: 07 June 2005 Location: United States Online Status: Offline Posts: 2370 |
![]() Posted: 23 June 2011 at 2:52pm |
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Montada,
I think you are missing the point regarding Coffeecat's post I have no idea if you are male or female (which you should identify BTW). She is not complaining about wearing it, or "lacks" info because she was not "born" a Muslim. Trust me lots of people born into Islam lack info.. What she is saying, at least how I read it, is the over-emphasis in relation to what people focus on in regards to women. Dress, dress, dress.. its NO BETTER than all the other parts of society that over -focuses on how women "look." Women are continually judged by their outward selves. This is NOT true for men. Muslims need to do better. Many of us became Muslim because we SHOULD be treated better. I recently read about a person who went to toy stores and the focus for girl toys was revolved around their appearance and the boys were developing their mental and coordination abilities. We Muslims often do the SAME thing.. not all, but a lot of them do. Going to a wedding next week, let me tell you, the focus / worry is not whether people will like me and enjoy my company but do I "dress" right for them.. sad in my mind. Coffeecat: I bet you many of us limit our interactions with the Muslim community as its just too much. I'd rather be around my nonMuslim friends who talk about other things, than clothes, appearance, shoes etc. Let me tell you, you are NOT alone. Oh and welcome to the forum both of you! Hayfa Edited by Hayfa - 23 June 2011 at 2:54pm |
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Coffeecat
Female Islam Starter
Joined: 19 June 2011 Location: United States Online Status: Offline Posts: 6 |
![]() Posted: 23 June 2011 at 8:44pm |
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Thank you both for your responses! Particulary, you Hayfa. Thank you for understanding. In my first post, I was "ranting", so I probably was not clear. I wear hijab. I believe modesty is an important part of faith. However, I do want muslim women to define themselves by something else instead of what we are wearing. |
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lady
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Joined: 20 September 2006 Online Status: Offline Posts: 240 |
![]() Posted: 23 June 2011 at 9:04pm |
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Assalaamaolaikum to all. I really tried my best not to comment on this topic. But I give up, I had to at least post something. I really do not know those muslim women who ONLY talk about in their day to day conversation about wearing the hijab. We are attracted to people who are like us. This is the same as in a relationship with are coworkers, our neighbors, or muslim friends as well. If you have friends that will promote goodness then I applaud you. If you want friends who will hold you accountable for what is right in islam and at the same time giving you the islamic respect that is needed, then please cherish those friends. As muslims it is our responsibilty to do this. If you choose to have friends, who will not do this, then that is a decision that you have made for yourself. I do not know any muslim sisters who all the time talk about islamic clothings. I have friends that are nonbelievers and ones that are believers. I do not care how a person dresses, as long as that person is positive and want to be a good person, and treat people with equality and respect. If I see a muslim sister, uncovered, then I hope that I will not make a quick judgement on her. If I do then Astaghfilluah on me. But if she is giving false statments about the way muslims are required to dress then it is our obligation to defend what Allah has commanded for us. But I will say that one day, if Allah (SWT) blesses me to have a daughter then I hope that I will be one of the best role models for her, and yes our conversation will include how it is to cover her entire body, and other things as well. This conversation will also be included when my husband and I help my future son to choose his muslim wife. I do not understand how you are meeting friends who only talk about wearing the hijab? Where are you meeting these women?And why can you not be honest with them and say, that you do not want to hear them correct you about the way you dress. That goes for anyone. If you think that covering your body is not important than that is the decision that you made for yourself. Who cares? If you are speaking about islam and the responsibilities that women are required to follow, and if it is incorrect, then that is a decision that you have made with yourself. Again, who cares about how you are dressing? I love my muslim sisters alot. And I love the conversations that we have with each other. I also do not like it for someone to bash other muslims, even if you are a muslim yourself. But like I said if you are giving a false message about islam, then we are suppose to speak against it. This is our obligation as well.
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Hayfa
Female Islam Senior Member
Joined: 07 June 2005 Location: United States Online Status: Offline Posts: 2370 |
![]() Posted: 25 June 2011 at 7:57pm |
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Salaams Lady,
It is not just about "hijab" that I am referring to but the continual emphasis in different forums to "address" the outer appearance of women. I know a woman who became a muslim alhumdillah... visited to talk to the Iman and some random man pulled her aside and started addressing her outward appearance! My friend had to chastise him for this. He didn't even say salaams and find out a thing about her before ranting into some "lecture." We are not talking about people giving "false" statements.. its about how people are often treated. And let me say, plenty of "reverts" leave Islam pretty fast, and this is one main reason I hear. Here you are trying to learn about Islam and some stranger is yelling at you. (And this has happened to women I know by other women). The issue is not about "bashing" Muslims but it seems as if many Muslims have trouble addressing problems within the community. There are big issues particularly with the issues facing many revert sisters. You are blessed these have not happened to you. I agree about "speaking" bad about other Muslims on the hand it is about addressing problems. Let"s all pretend there is no problem is fine.. that is why many of us gave up trying to be active in the Muslim communities near us. It is why they stopped seeking "support" cause they fear these constant lectures and not one iota if just decency and friendliness. If you don't have the cultural group to reside in you are left often hanging in the wind. Edited by Hayfa - 25 June 2011 at 8:01pm |
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When you do things from your soul, you feel a river moving in you, a joy. Rumi
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montada11
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Joined: 05 January 2011 Online Status: Offline Posts: 6 |
![]() Posted: 26 June 2011 at 5:29am |
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alsalam alikom all
firstly i am a woman
i am proud in my religion and my wear
hijab is not wear foe woman
hijab is order from allah
allah who crate us and know that the hijab is the
better for woman
i dont say that hijab is evry thing for woman in islam
islam is greatest religion
islam gave women all thir rights
islam didnot say that woman just cover her body and set in her home
muslim woman can to do evry thing with hijab
muslim woman must to be better then other and spicial
islamic wear give woman respict from other musloms and non muslims
they will see her mind and her dont without to look to her just for her body
i respect the other viwes but i put my viwe alos
i agree with my religion in hijab for women
we must to do evry thing isnot forbeden in islam
just look to islam from positive side
all love from me to all sisters Edited by montada11 - 26 June 2011 at 8:28pm |
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lady
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Joined: 20 September 2006 Online Status: Offline Posts: 240 |
![]() Posted: 26 June 2011 at 8:23am |
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Assalaamaoalaikum sister Hayfa. I read your reply post. I am sorry that that situation has happned to that sister. I know that it is our obligation to help one another to become better muslims. Why would we not do that when we can get blesssings from it? I dont know about revert muslims leaving the faith because of how they are treated by other muslims. I just know that the community I live in, and the ones I have visited, and the islamic conferences I attended in a different state have been a good experience to meet other muslimahs. Allah calls a person to the faith, and if a person walks away from the faith because of how they were treated by others, then that is something that they will have to explain to Allah about. As a human being, if you are trying to better your life, then at times there will be some opposition. You do not need to be a muslim to understand that. I am not ignoring that maybe we can see if we can do better to show them that they are welcomed to islam, but I never met someone who really feel like they do not want to be muslim because of how they were treated by other muslims. People become better muslims because of how they are practicing islam the proper way, and how they follow the ways of the Prophet Muhammed (PBUH). So again, if we are going to correct someone then it should be with gentleness and an understanding of what is going on in their life. I do not feel like we should avoid problems in the islamic faith, but I also feel like we need to be aware that other people who are not muslim are also reading our post as well. thanks for your reply Hayfa
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