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Because Christians have the indwelling of the Holy Spirit, they are new creations. Those in Christ are born of the Spirit (Christ), not just the flesh (Adam).   Thus Jesus is a new Adam.  Which is perhaps what the person meant by evolved. 

John 3:3 niv
In reply Jesus declared, "I tell you the truth, no one can see the kingdom of God unless he is born again." [Un-QUOTE]
Again, this reply still doesn't seem to answer about the state of nations prior to Christianity, like Jews etc. And besides, I think we all are born of spirit of God and flesh of adam, isn't it?; atleast in some metaphorical sense. What's the point, except that Christians have renamed the God based on evolutionarily developed theology? Thirdly, I really don't see any logical connection between the quote from John 3:3 niv and the concept of human evolution after Jesus. Don't tell me that we need to take this quote in a literal sense? 

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AhmadJoyia Senior Member Joined: 20 March 2005 Location: Pakistan Online Status: Offline Posts: 1161	Posted: 29 March 2005 at 6:16am
	[Quote] Because Christians have the indwelling of the Holy Spirit, they are new creations. Those in Christ are born of the Spirit (Christ), not just the flesh (Adam). Thus Jesus is a new Adam. Which is perhaps what the person meant by evolved. John 3:3 niv In reply Jesus declared, "I tell you the truth, no one can see the kingdom of God unless he is born again." [Un-QUOTE] Again, this reply still doesn't seem to answer about the state of nations prior to Christianity, like Jews etc. And besides, I think we all are born of spirit of God and flesh of adam, isn't it?; atleast in some metaphorical sense. What's the point, except that Christians have renamed the God based on evolutionarily developed theology? Thirdly, I really don't see any logical connection between the quote from John 3:3 niv and the concept of human evolution after Jesus. Don't tell me that we need to take this quote in a literal sense?
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Angel Senior Member Joined: 03 July 2001 Online Status: Offline Posts: 6626	Posted: 29 March 2005 at 10:36pm
	*Originally posted by yesha`* Because Christians have the indwelling of the Holy Spirit, they are new creations. Those in Christ are born of the Spirit (Christ), not just the flesh (Adam). Thus Jesus is a new Adam. Which is perhaps what the person meant by evolved. I don't think that would be correct afterall there were other people just like Jesus in creation and some were with Jesus while teaching. I would say its more to do with a new awareness and a new self image, not a new creation of being per se. I think I am with Ahmad with the statement of: "I think we all are born of spirit of God and flesh of adam, isn't it?; atleast in some metaphorical sense" John 3:3 niv In reply Jesus declared, "I tell you the truth, no one can see the kingdom of God unless he is born again." I don't take that as physically born. Afterall Jesus was alive when he came to a new awareness otherwise he wouldn't have been able to teach his teachings Edited by Angel
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