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Quote IssaEl999 Replybullet Topic: Question For Open ( Debate For Christian
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Ques ; The Immaculate Conception Of Mary That Christians ( Preach True ) ?
Ques ; How Does The Self Apointed  Saul , Shaool , Paul Justify Abolishing The Law ?
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Quote bunter Replybullet Posted: 28 March 2011 at 9:59am
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Ques; The Immaculate Conception Of Mary That Christians Preach True?
Ques; How Does The Self Apointed Saul, Shaool, Paul Justify Abolishing The Law?


Yes it is true that Christianity trusts in a virgin birth. As to whether it is true or not that is a matter of faith as I cannot see how it can be proved one way or another so it is perhaps a pointless question. This is no different is it from saying Mohammed was spoken to by an angel, is it true - I cannot see how it can be proved one way or another.

With regard to Paul it seems to me that you need to tell us where Paul justified abolishing as you say the law?

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Quote IssaEl999 Replybullet Posted: 29 March 2011 at 8:10pm
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Originally posted by IssaEl999

Ques; The Immaculate Conception Of Mary That Christians Preach True?
Ques; How Does The Self Apointed Saul, Shaool, Paul Justify Abolishing The Law?


Yes it is true that Christianity trusts in a virgin birth. As to whether it is true or not that is a matter of faith as I cannot see how it can be proved one way or another so it is perhaps a pointless question. This is no different is it from saying Mohammed was spoken to by an angel, is it true - I cannot see how it can be proved one way or another.

With regard to Paul it seems to me that you need to tell us where Paul justified abolishing as you say the law?
 
Maybe you should see if you can answer the question First And Not Tell Me What I Should Do Ok .
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Quote Sign*Reader Replybullet Posted: 30 March 2011 at 8:31am


Paul did & didn't do lot of things, people are still asking it is just not the IC members!

Who Wrote The Bible and Why It Matters



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Kismet Domino: Faith/Courage/Liberty/Abundance/Selfishness/Immorality/Apathy/Bondage or extinction.
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Quote bunter Replybullet Posted: 30 March 2011 at 8:51am
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Ques; The Immaculate Conception Of Mary That Christians Preach True?
Ques; How Does The Self Apointed Saul, Shaool, Paul Justify Abolishing The Law?


Yes it is true that Christianity trusts in a virgin birth. As to whether it is true or not that is a matter of faith as I cannot see how it can be proved one way or another so it is perhaps a pointless question. This is no different is it from saying Mohammed was spoken to by an angel, is it true - I cannot see how it can be proved one way or another.

With regard to Paul it seems to me that you need to tell us where Paul justified abolishing as you say the law?


Is it not interesting that Bart Ehrman is quoted here, beloved it seems of Muslim because he says what they want to hear. Do you not know any other Biblical scholars (FF Bruce, Metzger, Barclay etc) and perhaps you would care to hear what Ehrman says about oral transmission since again Muslims put some much store by it, he said oral transmission is not about about exactness, that is a product of written cultures, but oral recitations are about fitting the story, the same story, but bending it this way and that way to fit circumstance.

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Quote islamispeace Replybullet Posted: 30 March 2011 at 1:59pm
I agree with Bunter about the virgin birth.  That is simply a matter of faith, as it is with Muslims.  But the second topic is definitely interesting.  Christians make all sorts of arguments to try to exonerate Paul, but as with many of their arguments, there are many inconsistencies which they try very hard to ignore.  
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Quote IssaEl999 Replybullet Posted: 30 March 2011 at 4:29pm
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I agree with Bunter about the virgin birth.  That is simply a matter of faith, as it is with Muslims.  But the second topic is definitely interesting.  Christians make all sorts of arguments to try to exonerate Paul, but as with many of their arguments, there are many inconsistencies which they try very hard to ignore.  
 
 
 
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Quote Matt Browne Replybullet Posted: 31 March 2011 at 8:23am
Modern enlightened Christians don't believe virgin birth to be a biological fact. Jesus, the human being, had a biological father too. Immaculate conception can have a symbolic meaning.

Modern enlightened Muslims don't believe in the physical night journey of Muhammad. This too has a symbolic meaning.

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