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Ya Sayedi

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Posted: 12 August 2005 at 12:33am

The Glorious Quran was revealed on Prophet Muhammed Mustafa (sallu-aliya-wali-wasalm) not on Hadhart ALi(RA)

Do u guys ever utilise ur brain in proper way?

It's ALLAH(Subhanwa'talh) who gives STATUS AND RANK..NOT HUMAN BEINGS..

Every religion is CORRUPTED BY HUMAN BEINGS..besides ISLAM(Sunnism)

I wonder y many people hate /dislike our Prophet MUHAMMED(Sallau-aliya-wali-wasalm) where infact this entire Universe was created for him.

My advice is:Do not waste ur time in arguin' fighting like cats and dogs

TURN TO ALLAH(swt) ASK HIM TO GUIDE YOU.

Inshallah-ul-azim, He will either show u a miracle or dream Jus ASK HIM DON'T TURN TO HUMAN BEING OR SEEK THEIR ADVICE.

I wouldn't!

Again, do not turn to Human being. fullstop

You could be in great error .WHO KNOWS..and this is OUR only FIRST AND LAST CHANCE.

So, jus turn to ALLAH(SWT)..and ask him directly..

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Posted: 12 August 2005 at 9:38am

Originally posted by Ya Sayedi

I wonder y many people hate /dislike our Prophet MUHAMMED(Sallau-aliya-wali-wasalm) where infact this entire Universe was created for him.

Really?

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Posted: 15 August 2005 at 9:57pm

This universe was not created for Muhammad.....That knowledge is left for God. Perhaps in our limited understanding we can forego this type of thinking. True Prophet Muhammad was great in his own right but its nothing in comparison to the message he conveyed which all prophets have taught their people. Ya Sayedi I admire your admiration for the prophet but just a friendly reminder be careful of your words. The last comment which Deus posted seemed to be really extreme

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Posted: 03 September 2008 at 10:28am

U said: The Glorious Quran was revealed on Prophet Muhammed Mustafa (sallu-aliya-wali-wasalm) not on Hadhart ALi(RA)....

can somebody be more baseless in his words?????? plz dont believ in myths and baseless stories......this is to other sunni bros in this forum....

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Posted: 08 September 2008 at 4:46am

Ya Syedi was right. He did not write anything wrong about the Quran being revealed on the heart of Muhammad and not on Hazrat Ali. There is nothing wrong with that. asda is also right.

It is better to be careful because there are all kinds of foolish person trying to spread mischief. I don't say it is asda. But there are some very ignorant uneducated people who say funny things.

So good-bye to them without any harm to any one.

If any one is bad some one must suffer

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Posted: 09 September 2008 at 4:01am

br. how can this guy Ya Syedi be right on his blame on shias that shias believe that the Quran shud infact be revealed on Imam Ali (a.s) (maazallah)...this is a tohmat....we shurly dont believe that...The Quran was revealed to Prophet Muhammad (a.s) by Allah's will....and no one has the right to deny it....no shia denies it...

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Posted: 09 September 2008 at 8:59pm

yes, asda, thanks for your clarification. But you do not know the beliefs of all the shias. There are many branches in the Shias and they are now spread all over the world. They all do not believe as you do.

It is better for Ya Sayedi to be careful and not bring any point in advance before some one has uttered something. It is possible that in his area, the Shias may be having some special ideas as they always have for Hazrat Ali. i.e. some misconceptions about real Quran and Hazrat Ali.

If any one is bad some one must suffer

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Posted: 10 September 2008 at 1:53am

u knw wat bro......i am DYING to meet a shia with such beliefs....i knw and am fully aware about the variations in our beliefs.....but such a belief does not exist...even on the internet i could not find EVEN ONE shia website which such claims...i hav seen these sentences only on anti-shia sites...

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Ya Sayedi Starter Joined: 03 August 2005 Online Status: Offline Posts: 3	Topic: Shiitism Posted: 12 August 2005 at 12:33am
	The Glorious Quran was revealed on Prophet Muhammed Mustafa (sallu-aliya-wali-wasalm) not on Hadhart ALi(RA) Do u guys ever utilise ur brain in proper way? It's ALLAH(Subhanwa'talh) who gives STATUS AND RANK..NOT HUMAN BEINGS.. Every religion is CORRUPTED BY HUMAN BEINGS..besides ISLAM(Sunnism) I wonder y many people hate /dislike our Prophet MUHAMMED(Sallau-aliya-wali-wasalm) where infact this entire Universe was created for him. My advice is:Do not waste ur time in arguin' fighting like cats and dogs TURN TO ALLAH(swt) ASK HIM TO GUIDE YOU. Inshallah-ul-azim, He will either show u a miracle or dream Jus ASK HIM DON'T TURN TO HUMAN BEING OR SEEK THEIR ADVICE. I wouldn't! Again, do not turn to Human being. fullstop You could be in great error .WHO KNOWS..and this is OUR only FIRST AND LAST CHANCE. So, jus turn to ALLAH(SWT)..and ask him directly..
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Deus Senior Member Joined: 13 July 2005 Location: Canada Online Status: Offline Posts: 134	Posted: 12 August 2005 at 9:38am
	*Originally posted by Ya Sayedi* I wonder y many people hate /dislike our Prophet MUHAMMED(Sallau-aliya-wali-wasalm) where infact this entire Universe was created for him. Really?
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Israfil Senior Member Joined: 08 September 2003 Online Status: Offline Posts: 3984	Posted: 15 August 2005 at 9:57pm
	This universe was not created for Muhammad.....That knowledge is left for God. Perhaps in our limited understanding we can forego this type of thinking. True Prophet Muhammad was great in his own right but its nothing in comparison to the message he conveyed which all prophets have taught their people. Ya Sayedi I admire your admiration for the prophet but just a friendly reminder be careful of your words. The last comment which Deus posted seemed to be really extreme
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asda Senior Member Joined: 02 September 2008 Online Status: Offline Posts: 164	Posted: 03 September 2008 at 10:28am
	U said: The Glorious Quran was revealed on Prophet Muhammed Mustafa (sallu-aliya-wali-wasalm) not on Hadhart ALi(RA).... can somebody be more baseless in his words?????? plz dont believ in myths and baseless stories......this is to other sunni bros in this forum....
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minuteman Senior Member Joined: 25 March 2007 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1642	Posted: 08 September 2008 at 4:46am
	Ya Syedi was right. He did not write anything wrong about the Quran being revealed on the heart of Muhammad and not on Hazrat Ali. There is nothing wrong with that. asda is also right. It is better to be careful because there are all kinds of foolish person trying to spread mischief. I don't say it is asda. But there are some very ignorant uneducated people who say funny things. So good-bye to them without any harm to any one.
	If any one is bad some one must suffer
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asda Senior Member Joined: 02 September 2008 Online Status: Offline Posts: 164	Posted: 09 September 2008 at 4:01am
	br. how can this guy Ya Syedi be right on his blame on shias that shias believe that the Quran shud infact be revealed on Imam Ali (a.s) (maazallah)...this is a tohmat....we shurly dont believe that...The Quran was revealed to Prophet Muhammad (a.s) by Allah's will....and no one has the right to deny it....no shia denies it...
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minuteman Senior Member Joined: 25 March 2007 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1642	Posted: 09 September 2008 at 8:59pm
	yes, asda, thanks for your clarification. But you do not know the beliefs of all the shias. There are many branches in the Shias and they are now spread all over the world. They all do not believe as you do. It is better for Ya Sayedi to be careful and not bring any point in advance before some one has uttered something. It is possible that in his area, the Shias may be having some special ideas as they always have for Hazrat Ali. i.e. some misconceptions about real Quran and Hazrat Ali.
	If any one is bad some one must suffer
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asda Senior Member Joined: 02 September 2008 Online Status: Offline Posts: 164	Posted: 10 September 2008 at 1:53am
	u knw wat bro......i am DYING to meet a shia with such beliefs....i knw and am fully aware about the variations in our beliefs.....but such a belief does not exist...even on the internet i could not find EVEN ONE shia website which such claims...i hav seen these sentences only on anti-shia sites...
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