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Quote IssaEl999 Replybullet Posted: 11 April 2011 at 2:56pm
Originally posted by rememberallah

star formation-sun's birth, earth's birth.
"despite the fact that the universe is so uniform and homogeneous on a large scale, it contains local irregularities such as stars {planets} and galaxies, these are thought to have developed from small differences in density of early universe from one region to another. what was the origin of these density fluctuations ???" - pg128 brief history of time by Stephen Hawking.
Science has not been able to find the reasons for these density fluctuations. the local irregularities like galaxies {galaxy is a collection of billions of stars and there are billions of galaxies} stars and planets. Our sun is just one star of about 100,000 million stars of our Milky Way galaxy and has 8 planets, our earth being the third from sun.
Scientists have found that the stars and planets are formed in nebulae, nebulae is a Latin word meaning cloud or mist, but actually there is no cloud or mist but concentration of gas and dust which is often so thick that visible light can't penetrate it.
One might think here if visible light can”t penetrate nebulae then how did we study them ??? The answer is that 20th century scientists discovered infrared and radio waves and developed instruments that used these waves to study nebulae as they can pass through them to look deeper in them.
After years of research we have discovered that "all stars and planets are born out of gas and dust clouds. The birth is triggered by unknown causes which make the gas and dust start collapsing on itself "-pg37 inside stars by Biman Basu.
eg. of nebulae-the great Orion nebula, the Trifid nebula etc.
Repeating two things from the 2 quotations I have given above "what was the origin of these density fluctuations" {brief history of time} and "the birth is triggered by unknown causes” {Inside stars}
I would want you to read these verses of Quran-{41:11}-"say it is you who deny him??? He turned to the sky and it was as smoke, He said to 'it' {the smoke} and to the 'earth' come ye together willingly or unwillingly !!! they said we come together in willing obedience"
here we know the reason of the "density fluctuation" the "unknown cause" that it was The God who commanded the collapse and who could had told this 1400 yrs ago ?? the Quran claims it is from God and we have no choice but to accept its claim.
just to be sure I will compare-
Quran 41:11    Birth of planets and stars
"Say it is you who deny him? He turned to the sky and it was as smoke    stars and planets are born out of nebulae or star clouds which are smoky {see pictures} as are made up of gasses and dust
He said to it and to the earth come ye together willingly or unwillingly, they said we come together in willing obedience!    the gasses and dust particles start collapsing and joining due to unknown causes,


This is how our earth and solar system was born with its sun, all its planets and other heavenly bodies like comets asteroids etc. and it was told by a Bedouin of 7th century Arabia!!!!  No doubt his claim of Prophethood is correct, he indeed was chosen by the creator of the heavens and the earth to deliver a message.
In the same breath it says-
{38:87-88}-"of a truth this Quran is no other than an admonition to all created beings and after a time you shall surely know its message in full"
Indeed after a time, i.e. now 1400 yrs later, we can understand its message in full, the prophecy is fulfilled, we have understood it.
The Quran even goes onto divide the creation of earth into time periods after defining birth of solar system in same breath which totally matches the time periods discovered by the scientists today {this time period thing was my first real discovery that pushed me deeper into studying science in reference to religion} I will discuss it in another topic Inshallah.
May Allah guide us all and make not us stubborn against his will.

 
 
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 Are You Using ( Hadiyth = Words Of Me Not Of Allah / Qur'aan ) To Make Your Point Above ? ) . Because According To The Holy Qur'aan / Koran Chapter 41 ; ( Fussilat ( Explained In Detail Or Ha Min ( Hakiym And Muhammad Revealed In The Year 616 A.D. )  1 - 11 Is Speaking Of This ,  I Quote ; Rahman ~ Most Enosites Turen Away From The Qur'aan ~ MHuhammad A Bashar Like Them ~ Those Who Don't Give Zakat Are Kaafiruwn ~ Muhammad Ask The Messcans Do They Set Up Equals With Allah ? The Source  Turns His Direction To The Skies ~ The Source Ordained Them Seven Heavenly Skies .
El's Holy Qur'aan , States In Chapter 17 ; 81 , '' And Say ; Truth Has ( Now ) Arrived , And Falsehood Perished ; For Falsehood Is ( By Its Nature ) Bound To Perish (81 ) .
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Quote rememberallah Replybullet Posted: 13 April 2011 at 10:28am
make ur point clear. i dont get what u mean.
peace be on you.
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Quote IssaEl999 Replybullet Posted: 13 April 2011 at 3:52pm
Originally posted by rememberallah

make ur point clear. i dont get what u mean.
peace be on you.
 
Wa Alaykum As Salaam
Accounding To The Verse You Use It Not Saying What Your Saying , According To The Qur'aan Its Saying This ( First Let Me Say I Mean No Disrespect Ok . But Have To As This Question .Are You Using ( Hadiyth = Words Of Me Not Of Allah / Qur'aan ) To Make Your Point Above ? ) . Because According To The Holy Qur'aan / Koran Chapter 41 ; ( Fussilat ( Explained In Detail Or Ha Min ( Hakiym And Muhammad Revealed In The Year 616 A.D. )  1 - 11 Is Speaking Of This ,  I Quote ; Rahman ~ Most Enosites Turen Away From The Qur'aan ~ MHuhammad A Bashar Like Them ~ Those Who Don't Give Zakat Are Kaafiruwn ~ Muhammad Ask The Messcans Do They Set Up Equals With Allah ? The Source  Turns His Direction To The Skies ~ The Source Ordained Them Seven Heavenly Skies .
 
 
Read It For Yourself And If You Still Think Back Up What Your Saying . Hey It Cool . I Don't .


Edited by IssaEl999 - 13 April 2011 at 3:57pm
El's Holy Qur'aan , States In Chapter 17 ; 81 , '' And Say ; Truth Has ( Now ) Arrived , And Falsehood Perished ; For Falsehood Is ( By Its Nature ) Bound To Perish (81 ) .
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Quote Matt Browne Replybullet Posted: 14 April 2011 at 7:48am
Originally posted by qazi rehan

Asalam a Alaikum,

Brothers is there is any clue of clashing of earth and star in 2012 as many scientist are saying or what is the current condition of solar system , is there is any sign of such thing in solar system that we are going close to disaster?

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Yes, it's just a movie and a weird esoteric movement reading nonsense into the Mayan calendar. The same people thought the world would end on January 1, 2000. We're still here. And we will be in 2013. Do not worry. Earth is safe.

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Quote pure_columbian Replybullet Posted: 14 April 2011 at 8:21am
Originally posted by qazi rehan

Asalam a Alaikum,

Brothers is there is any clue of clashing of earth and star in 2012 as many scientist are saying or what is the current condition of solar system , is there is any sign of such thing in solar system that we are going close to disaster?

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