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Topic: Prophet Jesus (pbuh): A Prophet, Not A Son, Of God |
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ahmetsecer
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Joined: 11 March 2009 Location: Turkey Online Status: Offline Posts: 82 |
![]() Topic: Prophet Jesus (pbuh): A Prophet, Not A Son, Of GodPosted: 16 May 2010 at 1:56pm |
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IssaEl999
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Joined: 10 March 2011 Online Status: Offline Posts: 336 |
![]() Posted: 10 March 2011 at 7:45am |
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No Man's Body Can Contain God . Now If You Mean That He Has The Essence Of His Father In Him , Then All Men Are God's Sons And Daughters , Read Genesis 2 ; 7 When God Breathe Into Man The Breath Of Life ; '' And The Lord God Formed Man From The Dust Of The Ground , And Breathed Into His Nostrile The Breath Of Life ; And Man Became A Living Soul ,
However , Getting Back To The Point , Whether He Incarnated Or Came Himself , There Still Wouldn't Be Any Need For Him To Pray Or Ask For Assistance From Anyway If He Was God , The Creator . Can't You See That ? Not Only Would He Not Need To Pray , He Would Have No Desire To Eat Meat ( Luke 24 ; 41 ) , Beg That Death Passes Him ( Matthew 26 ; 39 ) . Feared And Run For His Life ( John 18 ; 3 ) Which Means That '' God '' Has To Run From His Creations . It Seems Like You Totally Ignored All Of These Scriptures And Found One That Sound Good To You , And Built A Whole Doctrine From It .
Another Quality That Yashu'a Didn't Not Possess According To Roman 13 ; 1 And 2Corinthian 1 ; 23 Is The Power To Assign The Souls The Positions In The Hereafter . According To The Author Of These 2 Books Which Was Paul , Only The Heavenly Father Possess Such Power . Exalting Yashu'a Beyond The Truth Is Shown To Be A Form Of Idolatry .
Once Again In Matthew 7 ; 21 , Yashu'a Tells People To Do The Will Of The Father Matthew 7 ; 21 And I Quote ; Not Every One That Saith Unto Me , Lord , Lord , Shall Enter Into The Kingdom Of Heaven , But He That Doeth The Will Of My Father Which Is Heaven .
In Both Luke 4 ; 8 And Matthew 4 ; 10 , We Come Across An Incident That Clearly Contradicts The Concept Of Yashu'a Claiming Absolute Divinity . According To These Two References , Matthew 27 ; 46 And Mark 15 ; 34 . Yashu'a Was Put On The Cross Left To Die . Then According To Those Who Believe The Crucifixion Story , At That Time Yashu'a Cried In A Loud Voice . Matthew 27 ; 46 , And I Quote ; And About The Ninth Hour Yashu'a Cried With A Loud Voice , Saying , Eli , Eli , Lama SabacthanI ? That Is To Say , My God . My God , Why Hast Thou Forsaken Me ?
Now Read Mark 15 ; 34 , And I Quote ; And At The Ninth Hour Yashu'a Cried With A Loud Voice , Saying Eloi , Eloi . Lama Sabachthani ? Which Is Being Interpreted . My God . My God , Why Hast Thou Forsaken Me ?
If Yashu'a Was God He Would Not Have To Say Any Of These Things In The First Place . How Could You Possibly Forsake Your Ownself ? If He Was God Or Eli As It Is Used In This Quote , He Would Not Need Consent From Anyone . Overstand . This Could Not Possibly Be The Words Of A Person Who Saw Himself As The Controller Of All Life And Death Because He Cried Out
'' My God '' ... It Simply Isn't Logical . Yashu'a Never Encouraged Anyone To Worship Him . Instead , He Taught Others To Worship His Father As I Have Just Shown You By Using The Scriptures .
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El's Holy Qur'aan , States In Chapter 17 ; 81 , '' And Say ; Truth Has ( Now ) Arrived , And Falsehood Perished ; For Falsehood Is ( By Its Nature ) Bound To Perish (81 ) .
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Empiricist
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Joined: 26 February 2012 Location: United States Online Status: Offline Posts: 41 |
![]() Posted: 17 March 2012 at 3:47pm |
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The examples you provide basically explain the duality of Jesus- a man, but with the spirit of God. Jesus is the EXAMPLE for all of us, given directly by God. I do not see why this is so hard to comprehend. It seems like a very good way to show us how God wants us to be. And God left Jesus on the cross for awhile, so Jesus the man would suffer and feel the pain. But the important part is that God returned and brought life back to Jesus, where he came back and showed himself. Why do you not include the rest of the story? How about Thomas, who doubted? Blessed are those who have faith without seeing, Jesus told Thomas.
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iec786
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Joined: 06 February 2012 Online Status: Offline Posts: 282 |
![]() Posted: 19 March 2012 at 12:08pm |
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So we commit a crime, and God murders his Son?????
This is either a cruel God or a stup** statement. |
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Abu Loren
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Joined: 29 June 2012 Location: United Arab Emirates Online Status: Offline Posts: 568 |
![]() Posted: 18 September 2012 at 11:42am |
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Originally posted by shopgirl2012 No matter who we believed in for me we cannot argue who is who and which is which. we believe what we believe and peace on earth is what matters most. but thats just me.< id="gwProxy" =""><!--Session -->< ="jsCall();" id="jsProxy" =""><div id="ref"> This hippy concept is fine and dandy but what you believe can have a dire consequence on the Day of Judgement. |
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