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    Posted: 29 July 2005 at 10:59am
I have a straight forward question.

If God were the revealer and Muhammad were the one who heard it, who is the writer?

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Quote ummziba Replybullet Posted: 29 July 2005 at 11:11am

Hello beloved,

Here is a great article that goes into much detail on the subject, it is called: "The Qur'an: A Divine Guidance or a Historical Document?"

If you don't feel like reading the whole thing, skip down to the last section of the piece called: "The Qur'an...The History of Documention".

http://www.islamonline.net/english/Contemporary/2003/08/Arti cle05.shtml

I hope that you find this article helpful!

Peace, ummziba.

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Quote beloved Replybullet Posted: 29 July 2005 at 8:41pm

Hello ummziba!

Been there, read it, already.  But it does not give the writer's name.  And there is a lot of doubt even to the writer (Dr. Aslam Abdullah) about the authenticity, "The Prophet is reported to have approved the Qur'an after listening to it from men and women who had memorized it and written it."

And "A copy of this Qur'an was with his wife Hafsa bint Omar."  Who wrote this copy?

He is basing the evidence on the hadith."These two accounts require closer examination on the basis of several other narrations that are mentioned in several books of hadith."  When was the hadith written, before or after the compilation of Quran? And who wrote the hadith?

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Quote Yusuf. Replybullet Posted: 01 August 2005 at 9:16am

The Holy Qur'an is literally the Word of Allah, subhananhu was ta'ala. These words were placed in the heart of Saiduna Rasulullah salallahu alaihi wassalam who then recited them.

The indisputable evidence that the Qur'an is Allah's speech is contained in the speech itself. Any honest and intelligent reader will immediately recognize its superiority over any text produced by human hand.

The extratextual evidence for the Holy Qur'an's authenticity, however, would not withstand modern academic methods of research. If you are sincere in your search for such evidence, you will be disappointed. If you are simply attempting to create doubt in the hearts of the believers by attacking the Qur'an with these methods of research, you will be equally disappointed.



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Quote beloved Replybullet Posted: 01 August 2005 at 12:25pm
The extratextual evidence for the Holy Qur'an's authenticity, however, would not withstand modern academic methods of research. If you are sincere in your search for such evidence, you will be disappointed.

Why brother?

If you are simply attempting to create doubt in the hearts of the believers by attacking the Qur'an with these methods of research, you will be equally disappointed.

I never had such an attitude towards Quran. So no need of any disbelief regarding my belief.
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Quote Yusuf. Replybullet Posted: 01 August 2005 at 1:13pm

Originally posted by beloved

The extratextual evidence for the Holy Qur'an's authenticity, however, would not withstand modern academic methods of research. If you are sincere in your search for such evidence, you will be disappointed.

Why brother?

Because the Qur'an was revealed at a time prior to the establishment of methods of record preservation that are acceptable to modern research. The Ahaadith, for example, were collected and written generations after the departure of Saidnuna Rasulallah Salallahu alaihi wassalam. Even the Holy Qur'an was not placed into its final form until the Caliphate of Uthman, radiallahu anhu, and the rationale for the final composition was not recorded. Further, other redactions of the Qur'an that were determined to be inaccurate were destroyed. These are pieces of data that a contemporary researcher requires. Naturally it causes no problem for a believer, since Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala tells us clearly:

XV. 9. We have, without doubt, sent down the Message; and We will assuredly guard it (from corruption).

However, as I mentioned before, the Holy Qur'an is its own proof.



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Quote beloved Replybullet Posted: 02 August 2005 at 7:48am
That was a straight forward answer. thank you brother Yusuf.

Can you please elaborate on how Holy Quran is its own proof?

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Quote Yusuf. Replybullet Posted: 02 August 2005 at 8:31am
II. 23. And if ye are in doubt as to what We have revealed from time to time to Our servant, then produce a Sura like thereunto; and call your witnesses or helpers (If there are any) besides Allah, if your (doubts) are true.

24. But if ye cannot- and of a surety ye cannot- then fear the Fire whose fuel is men and stones,- which is prepared for those who reject Faith.

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