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abujamal
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![]() Topic: War on IslamPosted: 27 July 2005 at 10:45am |
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It's common now for Blair, Bush and others to be speaking of their war against Islam in more accurate terms such as war of ideas like Blair said in his press briefing yesterday.
But they still lack the courage to be honest and say that is a war against a rival ideology, Islam, as was the case with Communism during the cold war. The reason being that this would gaurantee their failure as Muslims would firmly take their stance on the side of their ideology. So they have taken the deceptive approach of reforming Islam from within through the using their agents from within the Muslims claiming that they want to take back Islam from the "Extremists" and give it back to the "Moderates". And like Blair has said several times now that this is not a campaign to suppress Islam and his proof is that they allow the Muslims to worship freely. But this actually proves the point that this IS a campaign to suppress Islam because they only accept the spiritual side of Islam and the rest of it is dismissed as "extremism" by attempts to secualrize Islam by detaching the political side from it. Islam is complete and provides solutions for all of life's issues along with a system by which these solutions are implemented, the belief is preserved and the ideology of Islam is spread to the world. The Messenger (saw) was not a hermit who just hibernated in the mosque. He (saw) established the Islamic State, was it's Head, implemented the ahkam (laws which are the solutions to life's issues) and carried the message of Islam to the world by Jihad. The Sahaba continued this by appointing Caliphs like Abu Bakr, Umar etc who then were the heads of state, Implementing Islam and carrying its message to mankind until within 100 years, the Muslims had expanded into Africa to the west coast, in Europe to France and Asia to the wall of China. All of this would be "extremism" for the West because they didn't confine Islam to the ritual worships to the point where Blair said: "They demand the elimination of Israel... the withdrawal of all Westerners from Muslim countries...(ie removal of their occupation) ...the establishment of ....Sharia law in the Arab world en route to one caliphate of all Muslim nations." http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4689363.stm But these are the demands of Islam and ALL Muslims. And they would even claim that the presentation of these facts which are known to and acepted by all Muslims is a "perversion of this peaceful religion of Islam". But who is the one who is REALLy trying to pervert Islam? So how can they claim they don't have a problem with Islam and this is not a campaign to Suppress Islam when they are targetting those who carry Islam as it should be, completely with the aim of establishing it in the realm of life via State, which will implement Islam? And who are they kidding in beleiving that Muslims will apostasize from Islam to follow their new religion called Moderate Islam? Great book further proving this is a campaign to suppress Islam can be read here http://www.hizbuttahrir.org/English/books/The%20American%20C ampaign%20to%20Suppress%20Islam.pdf |
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abujamal
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![]() Posted: 27 July 2005 at 10:46am |
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originall posted here http://www.hizbuttahrir.org.uk/postnuke/pn/index.php?name=PN phpBB2&file=viewtopic&t=121
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b95000
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Joined: 11 July 2005 Location: United States Online Status: Offline Posts: 1328 |
![]() Posted: 27 July 2005 at 1:16pm |
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The war on terror is not a war against Islam - it's actually a war to free Islam from a death cult that plagues her.
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Bruce
Then you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free. |
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jibreel
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![]() Posted: 27 July 2005 at 2:49pm |
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Originally posted by b95000
The war on terror is not a war against Islam - it's actually a war to free Islam from a death cult that plagues her. No its not, its to fight for the freedom of been arrested for war crimes commited in poor countries for oil., nothing knew coming from hypocrates who can not exist unless they have things to show for it other then virtues they lack. The cross is and always was a symbol of DEATH... Satan is ALLAHS enemy, and those who worship him worhip a false hope to find salvation in the promises of this worlds fortunes, like money and technology. Why you can have the best of both if you do ALLAHs will and fallow the commandments as Jesus (PBUH) stated. The Crusade war is not really on Islam, but on Arabs and there resources, ask these evangelists and you will see that they do not have a clue when it comes to telling the difference between a arab tribe which Abraham (PBUH) rejected and a Muslim living the Islamic way of life. Or the Crusades would of not murdered Jewish and Christian Arabs in the past., so yes, its a racist regime again, racism because they actually believe appearance matters. This time they want oil and they will not let anyone get in there way because they have plenty of hungry consumers wiling to pay the Saudis allot for it now since they Toppled there allies like Sadam. Why do you think the public are tossed in the middle of the mess with Bombs... You have to convince the public to do there part and investigate there Government before judging trusting them, saying that you can not have a voice is silly., you are the people and they have nothing with out you. So do not think for once that Peace comes from them., it is not in there power to provide peace and never was. On the other hand there is God, ALLAH. you decide where peace comes from. Edited by jibreel |
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abujamal
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![]() Posted: 27 July 2005 at 3:31pm |
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Originally posted by b95000
The war on terror is not a war against Islam - it's actually a war to free Islam from a death cult that plagues her. Bit of a shame you didn't counter any of the arguments and just regurgitated the propaganda you are fed. Have another try and try convincing me. Edited by abujamal |
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Jenni
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![]() Posted: 27 July 2005 at 3:46pm |
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AbuJamal, who do you prefer, the Taliban. No thanks!!!!!!
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You cant be a good muslim if you are not decent and have a cold heart. Be a decent and kind person and care for women and children and the elderly.
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jibreel
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![]() Posted: 27 July 2005 at 8:44pm |
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Originally posted by Jenni
AbuJamal, who do you prefer, the Taliban. No thanks!!!!!! Who do you prefer "the New world order", ok, if you do why support ethnic cleansing? i prefer none or either., why blame someone for been there at all. occupation is occupation. The Taliban never bothered the U.S., Iraq also could not scratch the U.S., the evidence of Sadam not having WMODs where false and 3 other leading Nations proved it and argues with the U.S. So the real threats are the U.S. themselves for setting up people with small weapons, even there own at home, and then waiting for them to pick them up to use them. Edited by jibreel |
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Noah
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![]() Posted: 27 July 2005 at 8:58pm |
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I do not agree with many of the Talebans views or practices, but i have
to chip this into the conversation. Taleban provided a security that
wasnt present in the country before them. They manged to completely
destroy the opium trade. When ISRA was down there before the American
invasion there werent any opium poppy's there. When we came back after
the incasion, there werent anything BUT opium poppys, i mean the whole
landscape was glowing red as far as the eye could see. The smugglers of
drugs and people was afraid of the taleban because they shot them on
sight for causing trouble and stealing peoples children, and for that
we owe them respect.
I would rather have taliban than NWO to be honest. Atleast taliban is my brethren, nomatter if i agree completely with them or not. But then again, what do i have to worry about, im not female hehehe.. Peace Noah |
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jibreel
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![]() Posted: 27 July 2005 at 9:35pm |
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Peace Noa
Not all Talebans views or practices are truely close to the Sharia. But th fact that the U.S. needed the talibans to get there oil pipes out there and made a deal to train OBL and his people is clear how more cruel the Russians are when it comes to wars. |
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abujamal
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![]() Posted: 31 July 2005 at 2:32pm |
In case anymore proof was required about this being a war against Islam.Prime Minister Blair's SpeechPublished: July 16, 2005The following is extracts of the text of the speech delivered by Prime Minister Tony Blair on Saturday, July 16, 2005. "What we are confronting here is an evil ideology.....This is the battle that must be won, a battle not just about the terrorist methods but their views. Not just their barbaric acts, but their barbaric ideas. Not only what they do but what they think and the thinking they would impose on others." "Neither is it true that they have no demands. They do. It is just that no sane person would negotiate on them. " "They demand the elimination of Israel; the withdrawal of all westerners from Muslim countries, irrespective of the wishes of people and Government; the establishment of effectively Taleban states and Sharia law in the Arab world en route to one Caliphate of all Muslim nations." All Muslims wish to see the liberation of ALL of Palestine (not just the west Bank & Gaza), see the expulsion of the western occupation, the establishment of Sharia law and a single Islamic leadership (Caliphate) for all the Muslims. Thanks to thse kind of comments, it helps Muslims to see even clearer than before that this indeed is a war to suppress Islam and confine it to the worships in a new religion called "Moderate Islam". “ Edited by abujamal |
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