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martha

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Posted: 07 February 2010 at 9:20am

OK, thankyou brother

some of us are a lot like cement:- all mixed up and permanently set

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Posted: 07 February 2010 at 9:23am

Originally posted by martha

OK, thankyou brother

You are welcome, sister. Jazak Allah Khair.

Then which of the favours of your Lord will ye deny?
Qur'an 55:13

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Posted: 07 February 2010 at 11:57pm

"There are many such groups that have been declared non-Muslims by the consensus of Islamic scholarship. With regards to your question, please follow the thread and read my previous post. Hadith and Sunnah are basically the interpretation of the Qur’an.

May Allah guide us all."

I am again very curious to know if the Hadith explains all the 114 chapters in the Quran.As fas as i know,the hadith barely explains(i doubt that :D) half the Quran.What about the rest???? Who is going to explain the rest??.Do u have an answer?i hope im not beating around the bush this time.

Peace!

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Posted: 08 February 2010 at 11:06am

Originally posted by haris30432

Peace!

Yes, there are many verses in the Qur’an that are of general nature and that are self-explanatory. For example, don’t lie etc. Then there are the verses that have a context, and that need to be explained further. Others require procedural explanation.

For example, I asked you the question about Salat. The command of the prayer is in the Qur’an, but its details as to how to pray is in Sunnah. The Messenger explained this Qur’anic command by explaining it and practically showing it.

The words and explanations of the Messenger, also inspired by Allah, are in the Sunnah.

May Allah guide us all.

Peace

Edited by peacemaker - 08 February 2010 at 11:08am

Then which of the favours of your Lord will ye deny?
Qur'an 55:13

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Posted: 09 February 2010 at 4:11am

haris30432,

You didn't answer my question about prayers. Instead you have posted materials in bulk from unislamic sources that are not allowed in this forum.

Stick to the point and none of your posts will be deleted. You have still not answered my question as to where is the description for "how" and "when" about the prayers. Where do you find them? Please discuss and I don't want to see anymore posting from unislamic sources.

Proselytizing anywhere in the forum, publicly or privately, goes against the rules. You should be a learner or discuss in the public.

And this is a warning.

Then which of the favours of your Lord will ye deny?
Qur'an 55:13

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Posted: 09 February 2010 at 8:46pm

Peace,

My postings where adequately supported by verses from the Quran.How can that be unislamic?.Why do u call them unislamic?.I have answered many of your questions but ur question here is unclear .What do u mean "how" "when"?Is this question about the Quran?Can u explain why you are asking this, if it is about the Quran?.Im sorry but im trying to understand your question better and the reason behind this question.Please be kind to clarify once again and then i may be able to answer ur question Inshallah.

ONE GOD ONE SOURCE OF LAW!

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Posted: 09 February 2010 at 8:57pm

Well i dont know if this is the right place and ur free to move it if its not. Can u please explain the below verse for a start.And then God willing i will post some more so that you can help me learn the real meaning behind them.

[25:30] The messenger* said, "My Lord, my people have deserted this Quran."

ONE GOD ONE SOURCE OF LAW!

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Posted: 10 February 2010 at 12:25am

Also , haris can you prove from Qur'an that if its permitted for men to wear gold and silk ?

What about eating meat of tiger and other carnivorous ? And yes, how shud one perform Hajj ?

Qur'an commands to chop off hands of a thief ? Shud every theif's hands be chopped ?

Allah commands us at many places in Qur'an to obey the messenger. How shud we obey a messenger when reject all the hadiths.

Ayesha RA once said that Prophet {sallal lahu alayhi wasallam}'s character was Qur'an. What else does one need to stay behind accepting hadiths. Are we not asked to take our Prophet as our ideal ?

We go for Quran and sunnah, if needed go for Ijtihaad/qiyaas/ -- anyways, answer all the above questions, and what shud be our approach in such conditions

Edited by seekshidayath - 10 February 2010 at 12:45am

Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) said: “All the descendants of Adam are sinners, and the best of sinners are those who repent."

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martha Senior Member Joined: 30 October 2007 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1141	Posted: 07 February 2010 at 9:20am
	OK, thankyou brother
	some of us are a lot like cement:- all mixed up and permanently set
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peacemaker Male Islam Moderator Group Joined: 29 December 2005 Location: Canada Online Status: Offline Posts: 3056	Posted: 07 February 2010 at 9:23am
	*Originally posted by martha* OK, thankyou brother You are welcome, sister. Jazak Allah Khair.
	Then which of the favours of your Lord will ye deny? Qur'an 55:13
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haris30432 Male Islam Senior Member Joined: 23 January 2010 Location: India Online Status: Offline Posts: 145	Posted: 07 February 2010 at 11:57pm
	"There are many such groups that have been declared non-Muslims by the consensus of Islamic scholarship. With regards to your question, please follow the thread and read my previous post. Hadith and Sunnah are basically the interpretation of the Qur’an. May Allah guide us all." I am again very curious to know if the Hadith explains all the 114 chapters in the Quran.As fas as i know,the hadith barely explains(i doubt that :D) half the Quran.What about the rest???? Who is going to explain the rest??.Do u have an answer?i hope im not beating around the bush this time. Peace!
	ONE GOD ONE SOURCE OF LAW!
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peacemaker Male Islam Moderator Group Joined: 29 December 2005 Location: Canada Online Status: Offline Posts: 3056	Posted: 08 February 2010 at 11:06am
	*Originally posted by haris30432* I am again very curious to know if the Hadith explains all the 114 chapters in the Quran.As fas as i know,the hadith barely explains(i doubt that :D) half the Quran.What about the rest???? Who is going to explain the rest??.Do u have an answer?i hope im not beating around the bush this time. Peace! Yes, there are many verses in the Qur’an that are of general nature and that are self-explanatory. For example, don’t lie etc. Then there are the verses that have a context, and that need to be explained further. Others require procedural explanation. For example, I asked you the question about Salat. The command of the prayer is in the Qur’an, but its details as to how to pray is in Sunnah. The Messenger explained this Qur’anic command by explaining it and practically showing it. The words and explanations of the Messenger, also inspired by Allah, are in the Sunnah. May Allah guide us all. Peace Edited by peacemaker - 08 February 2010 at 11:08am
	Then which of the favours of your Lord will ye deny? Qur'an 55:13
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peacemaker Male Islam Moderator Group Joined: 29 December 2005 Location: Canada Online Status: Offline Posts: 3056	Posted: 09 February 2010 at 4:11am
	haris30432, You didn't answer my question about prayers. Instead you have posted materials in bulk from unislamic sources that are not allowed in this forum. Stick to the point and none of your posts will be deleted. You have still not answered my question as to where is the description for "how" and "when" about the prayers. Where do you find them? Please discuss and I don't want to see anymore posting from unislamic sources. Proselytizing anywhere in the forum, publicly or privately, goes against the rules. You should be a learner or discuss in the public. And this is a warning.
	Then which of the favours of your Lord will ye deny? Qur'an 55:13
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haris30432 Male Islam Senior Member Joined: 23 January 2010 Location: India Online Status: Offline Posts: 145	Posted: 09 February 2010 at 8:46pm
	Peace, My postings where adequately supported by verses from the Quran.How can that be unislamic?.Why do u call them unislamic?.I have answered many of your questions but ur question here is unclear .What do u mean "how" "when"?Is this question about the Quran?Can u explain why you are asking this, if it is about the Quran?.Im sorry but im trying to understand your question better and the reason behind this question.Please be kind to clarify once again and then i may be able to answer ur question Inshallah.
	ONE GOD ONE SOURCE OF LAW!
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haris30432 Male Islam Senior Member Joined: 23 January 2010 Location: India Online Status: Offline Posts: 145	Posted: 09 February 2010 at 8:57pm
	Yes, there are many verses in the Qur’an that are of general nature and that are self-explanatory. For example, don’t lie etc. Then there are the verses that have a context, and that need to be explained further. Others require procedural explanation. Well i dont know if this is the right place and ur free to move it if its not. Can u please explain the below verse for a start.And then God willing i will post some more so that you can help me learn the real meaning behind them. [25:30] The messenger* said, "My Lord, my people have deserted this Quran."
	ONE GOD ONE SOURCE OF LAW!
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seekshidayath Female Islam Senior Member Joined: 26 March 2006 Location: India Online Status: Offline Posts: 3337	Posted: 10 February 2010 at 12:25am
	Also , haris can you prove from Qur'an that if its permitted for men to wear gold and silk ? What about eating meat of tiger and other carnivorous ? And yes, how shud one perform Hajj ? Qur'an commands to chop off hands of a thief ? Shud every theif's hands be chopped ? Allah commands us at many places in Qur'an to obey the messenger. How shud we obey a messenger when reject all the hadiths. Ayesha RA once said that Prophet {sallal lahu alayhi wasallam}'s character was Qur'an. What else does one need to stay behind accepting hadiths. Are we not asked to take our Prophet as our ideal ? We go for Quran and sunnah, if needed go for Ijtihaad/qiyaas/ -- anyways, answer all the above questions, and what shud be our approach in such conditions Edited by seekshidayath - 10 February 2010 at 12:45am
	Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) said: “All the descendants of Adam are sinners, and the best of sinners are those who repent."
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