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Posted: 18 November 2009 at 2:10pm

Hi everyone.

I'm hoping someone will be able to help me. I have an old Egyptian bronze plate which has been with me for many years, and I have been trying to find help with translating the caligraphy. Below are some pictures, if anyone has any ideas I'd be very greatful.

Thank you.

Its hard to photograph, so I've altered the close up to show all of the panels with highlighted caligraphy.

Here is a portion of the plate just photographed normally.

Edited by Atlantia - 20 November 2009 at 10:20am

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Posted: 20 November 2009 at 9:52am

Sorry, no idea. Perhaps the Arabic knowers here can help.

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Posted: 21 November 2009 at 4:43am

Asslamu Alaikum

These are some of Allah 99names as I can see and Allah knows the best. I could read: Allah, Al-Ahad, Al-samad, Al- Adheem. They are very beautiful, masha' Allah. Are they on a vase or what?

And whoever seeks a religion other than Islâm, it will never be accepted of him, and in the Hereafter he will be one of the losers(3:85)

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Posted: 21 November 2009 at 6:11am

Originally posted by Saladin

Sorry, no idea. Perhaps the Arabic knowers here can help.

Thank you Saladin, I have added 'arabic' to the title to try and attract them.

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Posted: 21 November 2009 at 7:15am

Originally posted by Full of Hopes

Asslamu Alaikum

These are some of Allah 99names as I can see and Allah knows the best. I could read: Allah, Al-Ahad, Al-samad, Al- Adheem. They are very beautiful, masha' Allah. Are they on a vase or what?

Hi 'Full of Hopes'

Thank you for helping. This is a plate, made of bronze 34cm/ 13.5 inches across.

It is difficult to photgraph because it is shiny and the detail is very fine.

I have owned it for quite a while, and have always loved its beautiful workmanship. It probobly dates to around the mid 19th century. It is on display in my home.

There are six panels with caligraphy in them.

Does each panel have one name in and nothing else? I had assumed that they each contained a sentence or short passage.

Thank you very much for helping.

Kind Regards

Gene

Edited by Atlantia - 21 November 2009 at 7:16am

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Posted: 22 November 2009 at 6:03am

WOW. This is fantastic.

but it tires the eyes to gaze at it for a long time because it is on the computer. I will try to print it and read it again. From the computer I told you I see Allah 99names. But as you said, they can be fixed to a passage. Just be more patient with us. I like the arts so much and that one is really nice.

And whoever seeks a religion other than Islâm, it will never be accepted of him, and in the Hereafter he will be one of the losers(3:85)

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Posted: 23 November 2009 at 3:12pm

Originally posted by Full of Hopes

WOW. This is fantastic.

but it tires the eyes to gaze at it for a long time because it is on the computer. I will try to print it and read it again. From the computer I told you I see Allah 99names. But as you said, they can be fixed to a passage. Just be more patient with us. I like the arts so much and that one is really nice.

Thank you very much, it is very kind of you to help. I will be patient.

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Posted: 04 December 2009 at 8:03am

Asslamu Alaikum

I am sorry brother, I tried my best to see a passage but I saw just Allah 99 names. I saw more names like: Dhul Jalal. Al- Mutaal, Addayan.

What makes me almost sure it is not averse in Quraan is, that I saw Allah's name: Al-Samad, and this name's mentioned just once in Quraan in Suaart Ikhlas, and that passage is not suraa Ikhlas.

Anyway, I will keep trying and show this to an expert in Arabic calligraphy, if I have a chance.
I wanted to reply now just because I told you to wait for me..

BTW, that plate is very beautiful, masha' Allah. Smile

Edited by Full of Hopes - 04 December 2009 at 8:05am

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Atlantia Newbie Joined: 18 November 2009 Online Status: Offline Posts: 10	Topic: Trying to translate antique Arabic caligraphy Posted: 18 November 2009 at 2:10pm
	Hi everyone. I'm hoping someone will be able to help me. I have an old Egyptian bronze plate which has been with me for many years, and I have been trying to find help with translating the caligraphy. Below are some pictures, if anyone has any ideas I'd be very greatful. Thank you. Its hard to photograph, so I've altered the close up to show all of the panels with highlighted caligraphy. Here is a portion of the plate just photographed normally. Edited by Atlantia - 20 November 2009 at 10:20am
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Saladin Male Islam Senior Member Joined: 04 September 2007 Location: Sri Lanka Online Status: Offline Posts: 575	Posted: 20 November 2009 at 9:52am
	Sorry, no idea. Perhaps the Arabic knowers here can help.
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Full of Hopes Female Islam Senior Member Joined: 06 August 2009 Online Status: Offline Posts: 860	Posted: 21 November 2009 at 4:43am
	Asslamu Alaikum These are some of Allah 99names as I can see and Allah knows the best. I could read: Allah, Al-Ahad, Al-samad, Al- Adheem. They are very beautiful, masha' Allah. Are they on a vase or what?
	And whoever seeks a religion other than Islâm, it will never be accepted of him, and in the Hereafter he will be one of the losers(3:85)
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Atlantia Newbie Joined: 18 November 2009 Online Status: Offline Posts: 10	Posted: 21 November 2009 at 6:11am
	*Originally posted by Saladin* Sorry, no idea. Perhaps the Arabic knowers here can help. Thank you Saladin, I have added 'arabic' to the title to try and attract them.
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Atlantia Newbie Joined: 18 November 2009 Online Status: Offline Posts: 10	Posted: 21 November 2009 at 7:15am
	*Originally posted by Full of Hopes* Asslamu Alaikum These are some of Allah 99names as I can see and Allah knows the best. I could read: Allah, Al-Ahad, Al-samad, Al- Adheem. They are very beautiful, masha' Allah. Are they on a vase or what? Hi 'Full of Hopes' Thank you for helping. This is a plate, made of bronze 34cm/ 13.5 inches across. It is difficult to photgraph because it is shiny and the detail is very fine. I have owned it for quite a while, and have always loved its beautiful workmanship. It probobly dates to around the mid 19th century. It is on display in my home. There are six panels with caligraphy in them. Does each panel have one name in and nothing else? I had assumed that they each contained a sentence or short passage. Thank you very much for helping. Kind Regards Gene Edited by Atlantia - 21 November 2009 at 7:16am
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Full of Hopes Female Islam Senior Member Joined: 06 August 2009 Online Status: Offline Posts: 860	Posted: 22 November 2009 at 6:03am
	WOW. This is fantastic. but it tires the eyes to gaze at it for a long time because it is on the computer. I will try to print it and read it again. From the computer I told you I see Allah 99names. But as you said, they can be fixed to a passage. Just be more patient with us. I like the arts so much and that one is really nice.
	And whoever seeks a religion other than Islâm, it will never be accepted of him, and in the Hereafter he will be one of the losers(3:85)
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Atlantia Newbie Joined: 18 November 2009 Online Status: Offline Posts: 10	Posted: 23 November 2009 at 3:12pm
	*Originally posted by Full of Hopes* WOW. This is fantastic. but it tires the eyes to gaze at it for a long time because it is on the computer. I will try to print it and read it again. From the computer I told you I see Allah 99names. But as you said, they can be fixed to a passage. Just be more patient with us. I like the arts so much and that one is really nice. Thank you very much, it is very kind of you to help. I will be patient.
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Full of Hopes Female Islam Senior Member Joined: 06 August 2009 Online Status: Offline Posts: 860	Posted: 04 December 2009 at 8:03am
	Asslamu Alaikum I am sorry brother, I tried my best to see a passage but I saw just Allah 99 names. I saw more names like: Dhul Jalal. Al- Mutaal, Addayan. What makes me almost sure it is not averse in Quraan is, that I saw Allah's name: Al-Samad, and this name's mentioned just once in Quraan in Suaart Ikhlas, and that passage is not suraa Ikhlas. Anyway, I will keep trying and show this to an expert in Arabic calligraphy, if I have a chance. I wanted to reply now just because I told you to wait for me.. BTW, that plate is very beautiful, masha' Allah. Edited by Full of Hopes - 04 December 2009 at 8:05am
	And whoever seeks a religion other than Islâm, it will never be accepted of him, and in the Hereafter he will be one of the losers(3:85)
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