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hamza momand

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Posted: 21 November 2009 at 10:33am

dont spread lie.

this is called "buhtan".

nobody abused your sister. but i remember its you who said my sister doesnt wear hijab but modest clothes and i like it.

fear ALLAH and dont spread lies.

some of your posts were deleted and i hope the one in which wat you said about your sister will still be there.

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Posted: 21 November 2009 at 1:00pm

Originally posted by hamza momand

dont spread lie.this is called "buhtan".nobody abused your sister. but i remember its you who said my sister doesnt wear hijab but modest clothes and i like it. fear ALLAH and dont spread lies.some of your posts were deleted and i hope the one in which wat you said about your sister will still be there.

Huh?

some of us are a lot like cement:- all mixed up and permanently set

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Posted: 21 November 2009 at 1:47pm

where is he now i want to talk to him.

he says most of the afghans are in favor of americans so i want to know who are these afghans.

has he ever been to afghanistan after american invasion?

how can he say that afghans like americans?

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Posted: 21 November 2009 at 5:30pm

Originally posted by martha

Huh?

....ummah.com affair.

'Trust everyone but not the devil in them'

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Posted: 21 November 2009 at 7:55pm

Hamza, you don't represent Afghanistan. Go re-read your posts on your favorite online forum and see how many muslims you have labeled as Kafir. You don't seem to be real Afghan. I know your ancestor are from Afghanistan. I monitored your posts on your favorite online forum and you keep mentioning a country other than Afghanistan. Do you love Afghanistan or the other country? (hamza seems to have grown up in another country and not familiar with Afghani culture)

One of the Afghani-Americans went to kabul and gets into a taxi. Taxi driver asks him, welcome fellow Afghan where are you coming from? Afghani-American- I live in the US, but spent two weeks in the (country that Hamza loves)

Taxi-driver- Starts insulting (the country that Hamza loves)

I don't condon xenophobia. In fact I would have had an arguement with that Taxi-driver if I was there. So why am I mentioning this story? I am just trying to state that Hamza can not learn the "ins and outs" of Afghani politics if he has the accent (I assume) and the culture of (the other country). He will most likely be insulted by a taxi driver in Kabul for his (the other country) culture. So his views are foreign to most Afghanis, even to those who don't like American troops (minority of Afghans) I tried to have a conversation with Hamza about Afghanistan, but he couldn't do so because he was not familiar with Afghani history or culture. Also, I have never denied the facts that there are extremists in Afghanistan (minority). And what is better example of extremism than the online group he belongs to.

Hamza, why did you run away, when I asked you to discuss the 1992 events with me? Also, don't lie about extremist buddies. My family was insulted multiple times by your extremist buddies.

As far as my travel to Afghanistan. I have never misled anyone. I have always stated, I live in the US.

So what that I don't live in Afghanistan. One of my brothers just returned from Afghanistan, and everyone that he has talked to over there are thankful that the US troops are there. I talked to other Afghani-Americans who have visited Afghanistan and they say the same thing. Nowhere I have stated about things being rosey in Afghanistan. Look in page 1 and I have stated that Taliban are stronger now compare to 2002. But that are due to many reasons (go read the page 1), and not because Taliban are popular among general Afghan population. They might be popular among few of your non-Afghan online buddies, but not popular among Afghans.

Hamza, don't try to make a mystry out of my post-deletion. All I wanted was to come to your favorite forum and express my views about my (and other Afghans' )support for US troops. Your extremist buddies, started insulting me and my family. After enduring the insults for awhile, I started insulting them back. Being such a fair site (sarcasm) my posts were deleted but your extremist buddies' post were not deleted.

Once again, if anyone wants to know the real-truth then please go to a mosque that has many Afghans. Hamza and I can argue forever, but no one will know the real truth unless they talk to other Afghanis. Also please go to an Afghani forum and ask them the truth.

Hamza, You and I have debated for hours. Debating with you anymore is waste of time. I stated my opinion here and on your favorite extremist forum. If you want to state your opinion, then do as I did. Open a new thread! Good luck with Kabul taxi-drivers.

Edited by afghani - 21 November 2009 at 8:44pm

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Posted: 21 November 2009 at 11:58pm

Originally posted by Saladin

....ummah.com affair.

Originally posted by martha

Huh?

LOL

Hope they take thier filth somewhere else. We would get a load of "you sound like a kafir" if this forum was the right place for them.

This thread is just the start of it if it goes on. Im suprised some of these colonial rabbits have toned down there views.

Edited by SteppeNomad - 22 November 2009 at 12:04am

Ya Allah, Bismillah, AllahuAkbar.

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Posted: 23 November 2009 at 6:06pm

As Salamu Alaikum brother Hamza and sister Taqwa [IMG]smileys/smiley1.gif" align="middle" /> .Welcome to the forum.How about we stop this topic and start a new one based on why Muslims from abroad leave there respected homlands Ive been hearing this alot lately because I have been askings alot of my brothers who where born abroad.I hear about corruption, poverty, and little oppurtunities,We have all that in the U.S also.I agree with the new sister about the dislikes of the U.S. Who here knows about the Hadith that talks about us being in poverty vs striving to compete for a better life in this dunyah?If we all have faith in Allah that things can change then they will(InshAllah Ta ala).May Allah Help us.

Edited by Akhe Abdullah - 23 November 2009 at 6:25pm

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Posted: 16 December 2009 at 9:48pm

This is indeed very foolish but you can think for yourself
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hamza momand Starter Joined: 15 November 2009 Online Status: Offline Posts: 4	Posted: 21 November 2009 at 10:33am
	dont spread lie. this is called "buhtan". nobody abused your sister. but i remember its you who said my sister doesnt wear hijab but modest clothes and i like it. fear ALLAH and dont spread lies. some of your posts were deleted and i hope the one in which wat you said about your sister will still be there.
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martha Senior Member Joined: 30 October 2007 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1141	Posted: 21 November 2009 at 1:00pm
	*Originally posted by hamza momand* dont spread lie.this is called "buhtan".nobody abused your sister. but i remember its you who said my sister doesnt wear hijab but modest clothes and i like it. fear ALLAH and dont spread lies.some of your posts were deleted and i hope the one in which wat you said about your sister will still be there. Huh?
	some of us are a lot like cement:- all mixed up and permanently set
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hamza momand Starter Joined: 15 November 2009 Online Status: Offline Posts: 4	Posted: 21 November 2009 at 1:47pm
	where is he now i want to talk to him. he says most of the afghans are in favor of americans so i want to know who are these afghans. has he ever been to afghanistan after american invasion? how can he say that afghans like americans?
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Saladin Male Islam Senior Member Joined: 04 September 2007 Location: Sri Lanka Online Status: Offline Posts: 575	Posted: 21 November 2009 at 5:30pm
	*Originally posted by martha* *Originally posted by hamza momand* dont spread lie.this is called "buhtan".nobody abused your sister. but i remember its you who said my sister doesnt wear hijab but modest clothes and i like it. fear ALLAH and dont spread lies.some of your posts were deleted and i hope the one in which wat you said about your sister will still be there. Huh? ....ummah.com affair.
	'Trust everyone but not the devil in them'
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afghani Starter Joined: 12 November 2009 Online Status: Offline Posts: 16	Posted: 21 November 2009 at 7:55pm
	Hamza, you don't represent Afghanistan. Go re-read your posts on your favorite online forum and see how many muslims you have labeled as Kafir. You don't seem to be real Afghan. I know your ancestor are from Afghanistan. I monitored your posts on your favorite online forum and you keep mentioning a country other than Afghanistan. Do you love Afghanistan or the other country? (hamza seems to have grown up in another country and not familiar with Afghani culture) One of the Afghani-Americans went to kabul and gets into a taxi. Taxi driver asks him, welcome fellow Afghan where are you coming from? Afghani-American- I live in the US, but spent two weeks in the (country that Hamza loves) Taxi-driver- Starts insulting (the country that Hamza loves) I don't condon xenophobia. In fact I would have had an arguement with that Taxi-driver if I was there. So why am I mentioning this story? I am just trying to state that Hamza can not learn the "ins and outs" of Afghani politics if he has the accent (I assume) and the culture of (the other country). He will most likely be insulted by a taxi driver in Kabul for his (the other country) culture. So his views are foreign to most Afghanis, even to those who don't like American troops (minority of Afghans) I tried to have a conversation with Hamza about Afghanistan, but he couldn't do so because he was not familiar with Afghani history or culture. Also, I have never denied the facts that there are extremists in Afghanistan (minority). And what is better example of extremism than the online group he belongs to. Hamza, why did you run away, when I asked you to discuss the 1992 events with me? Also, don't lie about extremist buddies. My family was insulted multiple times by your extremist buddies. As far as my travel to Afghanistan. I have never misled anyone. I have always stated, I live in the US. So what that I don't live in Afghanistan. One of my brothers just returned from Afghanistan, and everyone that he has talked to over there are thankful that the US troops are there. I talked to other Afghani-Americans who have visited Afghanistan and they say the same thing. Nowhere I have stated about things being rosey in Afghanistan. Look in page 1 and I have stated that Taliban are stronger now compare to 2002. But that are due to many reasons (go read the page 1), and not because Taliban are popular among general Afghan population. They might be popular among few of your non-Afghan online buddies, but not popular among Afghans. Hamza, don't try to make a mystry out of my post-deletion. All I wanted was to come to your favorite forum and express my views about my (and other Afghans' )support for US troops. Your extremist buddies, started insulting me and my family. After enduring the insults for awhile, I started insulting them back. Being such a fair site (sarcasm) my posts were deleted but your extremist buddies' post were not deleted. Once again, if anyone wants to know the real-truth then please go to a mosque that has many Afghans. Hamza and I can argue forever, but no one will know the real truth unless they talk to other Afghanis. Also please go to an Afghani forum and ask them the truth. Hamza, You and I have debated for hours. Debating with you anymore is waste of time. I stated my opinion here and on your favorite extremist forum. If you want to state your opinion, then do as I did. Open a new thread! Good luck with Kabul taxi-drivers. Edited by afghani - 21 November 2009 at 8:44pm
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SteppeNomad Senior Member Joined: 08 July 2009 Online Status: Offline Posts: 292	Posted: 21 November 2009 at 11:58pm
	*Originally posted by Saladin* ....ummah.com affair. *Originally posted by martha* Huh? LOL Hope they take thier filth somewhere else. We would get a load of "you sound like a kafir" if this forum was the right place for them. This thread is just the start of it if it goes on. Im suprised some of these colonial rabbits have toned down there views. Edited by SteppeNomad - 22 November 2009 at 12:04am
	Ya Allah, Bismillah, AllahuAkbar.
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Akhe Abdullah Male Islam Senior Member Joined: 19 November 2008 Location: United States Online Status: Offline Posts: 1252	Posted: 23 November 2009 at 6:06pm
	As Salamu Alaikum brother Hamza and sister Taqwa [IMG]smileys/smiley1.gif" align="middle" /> .Welcome to the forum.How about we stop this topic and start a new one based on why Muslims from abroad leave there respected homlands Ive been hearing this alot lately because I have been askings alot of my brothers who where born abroad.I hear about corruption, poverty, and little oppurtunities,We have all that in the U.S also.I agree with the new sister about the dislikes of the U.S. Who here knows about the Hadith that talks about us being in poverty vs striving to compete for a better life in this dunyah?If we all have faith in Allah that things can change then they will(InshAllah Ta ala).May Allah Help us. Edited by Akhe Abdullah - 23 November 2009 at 6:25pm
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JihadX Senior Member Joined: 20 June 2008 Online Status: Offline Posts: 258	Posted: 16 December 2009 at 9:48pm
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	“The knife that slaughtered the guards at Bagram and set us free is now on its way to other places,” _ The Mujahid, The Eminent, Sheikh Abu Yahya Al Libi
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