Okay, but I’m referring to the true written text not interpretations and meanings.   

Because If Allah failed to protect and guard his 1^st, 2^nd n’3^rd revelation like he said he would why is he now able to protect this so called final revelation or the next revelation? Everyone is saying they have faith in Allah but yet everyone in doubting the integrity of Allah’s Revelations because of the people, shame on you honoring God with only lip service!

You say the previous revelations have been corrupted. Still, the Quran commands Muslims to believe in the previous Revelations, very strange in deed.

 'We believe in God, and what has been revealed to thee, and what was revealed to Abraham, and Ishmael, and Isaac, and Jacob, and the tribes, and what was given to Moses, and Jesus, and the prophets from their Lord,- we will make no distinction between any of them,- and we are unto Him resigned. Q3:84

These previous Revelations include the following:

We did reveal the Torah (Tawrat), wherein is guidance and a light ... Q5:44 - Can Muhammad really be guided when something is corrupt?

And already have we written in the Psalms (Zabur) after the reminder that the earth shall my righteous servants inherit.' Q21:105 - But, how could we trust that if it is corrupted?

Subsequent to them, we sent Jesus, the son of Mary, confirming the previous scripture, the Torah. We gave him the Gospel (Injil), containing guidance and light, and confirming the previous scriptures, the Torah, and augmenting its guidance and light, and to enlighten the righteous. Q5:46 – Although corrupted as YOU say, why didn’t Jesus say they were corrupted instead of directing us to these Revelations?

 So this is what I have gathered:

1.        The Quran is preserved.

2.        God’s Revelations which preceded the Quran include the Torah, the Psalms, and the Gospel. These Books make up a large portion of the Holy Bible.

3.        The Quran, the Torah, the Psalms, and the Gospel are all the Word of Allah.

4.        God's Word does not change.

5.        The revelations that came before the Quran have become corrupted.

6.        Although Muslims should believe that these previous Books are the genuine Revelations from God, they have to trust only the Quran as the final revelation and the only one that is preserved.

A. The Quran, the Torah, the Psalms and the Gospel are all Allah’s Word.

B. The current Torah, Psalms and Gospel are corrupted.

         C. The final word of Allah, the Quran is preserved.

Muslims are saying some of Allah’s words are corrupted. But the Quran is also Allah’s word, a BIG dilemma you have on your hand!

You are also saying some of Allah’s words are preserved, because the Torah, Psalms and Gospel are Allah’s words. An even BIGGER dilemma!

Muslims are saying some of Allah’s words are corrupted and some are preserved. You stand on shaky ground because now you pick and choose what’s right and what is wrong to fit what is in as you say the “final” Revelation, but then again who knows according to your reasoning. God’s word cannot be both right and wrong; it’s either one or the other. Any time you use the Bible to discuss the Prophet(s) or the ‘book’ you will always pull the rug out from under your feet.

Greetings Friendship

Yes, I believe that the interpretation or meaning of the “Book” has been somewhat obscured by Jews, Christians and Muslims. Therefore, Is it safe to say then the written text of the Torah, Psalms and Gospel that Muhammad said he received were uncorrupted according to the verses from the Quran?

I ask because it was posted on page 12 of this thread that “Allah has made a promise with the Qur'an unique from previous revelations and that is to guard it from such corruption. Allah had not guarded the Torah and the Injil in the same manner……...”

Although the Quran makes no mention of Prophet Isaiah Muslims use his book to prophecy about Muhammad. Nonetheless, just as Muslims believe the Quran is preserved and cannot be altered, Jews and Christians believe the same when it comes to their Holy Scriptures.

Exodus 34:27: “And Jehovah went on to say to Moses: “Write down for yourself these words, because it is in accordance with these words that I do conclude a covenant with you and Israel.’”

Isaiah 40:8 - The green grass has dried up, the blossom has withered; but as for the word of our God, it will last to time indefinite.

(Luke 24:27) And commencing at Moses and all the Prophets he interpreted to them things pertaining to himself in all the Scriptures.

(Luke 24:44) He now said to them: “These are my words which I spoke to YOU while I was yet with YOU, that all the things written in the law of Moses and in the Prophets and Psalms about me must be fulfilled.”

2 Timothy 3:16, 17 - All Scripture is inspired of God and beneficial for teaching, for reproving, for setting things straight, for disciplining in righteousness…

Revelation 1:1 - A revelation by Jesus Christ, which God gave him, to show his slaves the things that must shortly take place

Then he said “At this stage in time, it is menial to seek guidance from the Torah and the Injil in the sence that it contains the mixture of truth and falsehood along with confusing contradiction, which are evidence of tampering.”

Menial? Falsehoods? Whether that is true or not of what modern Muslims really believe doesn’t bother me but it questions the validity of Muhammad prophet hood if they do, here’s why –

3:84, 4:136 - Muslims should believe it.

3:3, 5:46 - It came from Jesus

9:111 - God's promises are in it

5:47 - We are to judge by it.

3:3, 5:46 - Guidance and light.           

10:94 - Refer to it when in doubt.

4:162 - Those grounded in knowledge believe it.

Found in Tirmidhi’s and Al-Bukhari’s Hadith: He then said, “Do you not have among you . . . Salman who was a believer in the two Books? Meaning the Injīl and the Qur’an. Tirmidhi translated it.

2. I ask because it was posted on page 12 of this thread that “Allah has made a promise with the Qur'an unique from previous revelations and that is to guard it from such corruption. Allah had not guarded the Torah and the Injil in the same manner……...”

Response: I am sure it is apparent to us that the main problem the Muslim Umma is facing is lack of Central Authority i.e. the Khalifate. You and me cannot an International Conference to discuss about the Sunna and bring about peace and unity. Right from the very beginning, after Moses received the Torah on returning to his people and after seeing the atrocity they committed he threw it on the ground. Some of the Muslim (followers of Muhammad) commentators of the Qur‘ān explained that when Prophet Mūsā threw down the Tables they broke down into seven parts. The six parts containing the Tafsīl (detailed elaborations or specific evidences) were raised to the Heavens leaving only one part containing ‘hudan’ (the guidance) and Rahma (mercy of Allāh). What happened or what became the fate of the Tafsīl raised to the Heavens is an issue not raised by our predecessors. Examination of the Ten Commandments reveals the nature of the Torah dealing with mainly morale issues and not the rituals. The Law, “Do not worship any god besides me (Me)” I believed has been explained in the Old Testament in such details that it becomes imperative for any one studying the holy Qur‘ān to know full well what is in the Old Testament. The lessons are clear, plain and detailed. You worship none but Allāh. The Law, “Do not make idols that look like anything in the sky or on earth or in the ocean under the earth”, has its Tafsīl in the Qur’ān and the Sunna of the   holy Prophet. Idol worship was exemplified by the history of Prophet Ibrāhim (AS).

I quite agree with you conclusion. It is baseless to delve in the past. What is important is to establish the Khalifate which no Muslim nation is interested. We cannot understand Islam without a Central Authority.

Friendship.