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    Posted: 16 July 2005 at 6:42pm
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Quote MOCKBA Replybullet Posted: 16 July 2005 at 10:22pm

Bismillah

Assalamu'alaikum.

Jazzak Allahu Khair for the article, brother Yusuf. I am not sure whether you will want to engage yourself in useless arguments that may follow from some "understanding" seeking participants. I have allowed myself a bit of time-wasting and thought of sharing it with you. And Allah knows best. 

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Quote rami Replybullet Posted: 17 July 2005 at 2:18am
Bi ismillahir rahmanir raheem

assalamu alaikum

This person does not know islam and his "dont rock the boat" analagy shows his ignorance. Simply becouse young muslim men are getting angry has nothing to do with the teachings of Islam. "Dont rock the boat" does not justify killing civilians, it does not justify suacide, it does not justify jahaliyah (extreeme ignorance) of ones own religion the only thing it does is show how little people are performing jihad an nafs an obligation in islam which each person will be asked about.

If you are practicing your Islam properly Human qualities such as patiance, perserverance, compation, understanding are the fruits of your practicing islam properly. If you do not have these qualities in you then youe worship is of little value.

Do you know what defines a muslim, it is that he still behaves like a muslim when times get hard, this includes seeing the suffering of his brothers overseas.

"dont rock the boat" is an ignorante description of sabr, if people are sincere about there faith and not giving it mere lip service they will see every human life as being precious to Allah.

Noah's Forty Clay Jugs

Everyone knows the story of Noah, peace be upon him. He is one of the five greatest prophets of God. He called on his people day and night for years, asking them to leave their evildoing, to repent and return to love of God and His worship and to abstain from wrong. His people rejected him repeatedly and scoffed at him. As much as he preached they rejected his teachings.

However he was patient and continued to preach to them. They never let up in their mockery of him. So it continued for years and years, and Noah was persistent and patient. He did not tire of calling his people to truth and goodness, and they in turn did not tire of scoffing at him. This continued for decades, a century, two centuries, and Noah was patient and persistent. Three centuries, four, five...

After nine centuries of non-stop preaching accompanied by endless mockery and rejection, Noah reached his limit. Finally he asked God to punish his people and to send a flood upon them and not leave a single one of them alive. As he was a prophet of God, God was obliged to answer his prayer. We know what came to pass.

Once some time after having been saved from the flood, the Lord addressed Noah saying, "O my servant, I am asking you to go and with your utmost care make for Me forty clay jugs." As he was an obedient servant and a great prophet, Noah immediately went about complying with this order. He gathered the finest clay he could find and spent days and nights laboring with love to create 40 beautiful clay jugs.

After so much effort, the Lord then addressed Noah again saying: "O my servant, now that you have made these forty jugs, go outside and take each one and throw it down upon the rocks." Noah, an obedient servant, had no choice but to obey. He took the jugs which he had spent so much effort in making, and one-by-one smashed them against the rocks.

Then the Lord addressed Noah, saying: "Oh Noah, you made forty clay jugs, and it was odious to you to break them. Do you think that it was a pleasure for Me to kill all of My servants, even though they were unbelievers?" Then Noah began to cry and wail. So proverbial was his wailing that "Nuh" came to mean "wail" in Arabic.




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Rasul Allah (sallah llahu alaihi wa sallam) said: "Whoever knows himself, knows his Lord" and whoever knows his Lord has been given His gnosis and nearness.
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Quote Suleyman Replybullet Posted: 17 July 2005 at 5:22am

Es_Selam'un Aleykum,

Day by day i love Brother Rami more and more,Jazak Allah Khair...we have got so much things share but unfortunately i am not at my day for an year... 

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Quote Yusuf. Replybullet Posted: 17 July 2005 at 2:30pm
Originally posted by MOCKBA

Bismillah

Assalamu'alaikum.

Jazzak Allahu Khair for the article, brother Yusuf. I am not sure whether you will want to engage yourself in useless arguments that may follow from some "understanding" seeking participants. I have allowed myself a bit of time-wasting and thought of sharing it with you. And Allah knows best. 

Walaikum assalam dorogoi brat moi,

When providing responses to such participants, I naturally do not expect to change his/her mind. Rather, I demonstrate the flaws in the person's argument for the benefit of open minded people who may be swayed by misinformation and/or faulty reasoning.

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