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Posted: 12 October 2009 at 3:46pm

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AL-Qur'an 10:89-91(89)We led the Children of Israel across the sea.Fir'aun(Pharaoh)and his host pursued them with wickedness and oppression,until when drowning,he cried out:"I believe that there is none worthy of worship but He(Allah)in Whom the Children of Israel believe,and I am one of the Muslims.(90)In response,it was said to him:"Now you believe!But a little while before you were disobedient and one of the mischief-makers!(91)We shall save your body today,so that you may become a sign for the succeeding generations;indeed many among mankind are heedless of Our signs!

Who is the weee led the children of Isreal across the the sea was it God and Moses Allah and and Moses or Muhammad and Allah?This is also caravan camp fire story that Muhammad may have heard or his compannions this contradicts the the torah clearly Pharaoh is in no ways saved this show you Muhammad lied openly and muslims still believe him,Like Noah had a forth son who drown in the the flood because he wasn't muslim, once if you started lying the lies goes on and on, thats Muhammad did he lied so much he believed himself.

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Posted: 12 October 2009 at 4:26pm

Originally posted by Akhe Abdullah

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The Torah is 3300 years old why would God deny all this and changed His mind and give us a new manuscrip which He himself self deny his own Son and His new govenant," God never changed?

Who says that God has changed.You cant belive for one minute that man has'nt played a part in changing the word of God in the Bible?Honest answer please.
Originally posted by Meditations

Dear JOUBERAR[COLOR="#>0000ff"]It seems that you're copying / pasting this from some source ( the guide you say )
This is true on another topic I was guilty of this remember matthew 8:12 [/QUOTE]

COLOR="#>0000ff What is this are you getting angry is this a swear word?

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Posted: 13 October 2009 at 9:06am

Originally posted by JOUBERAR

Who is the weee led the children of Isreal across the the sea was it God and Moses Allah and and Moses or Muhammad and Allah?This is also caravan camp fire story that Muhammad may have heard or his compannions this contradicts the the torah clearly Pharaoh is in no ways saved this show you Muhammad lied openly and muslims still believe him,Like Noah had a forth son who drown in the the flood because he wasn't muslim, once if you started lying the lies goes on and on, thats Muhammad did he lied so much he believed himself.

Astaghfirullah!When the Qur'an says "We" it is talking about Allah and his Angels or with the help of Allah his Prophets did so and so.You fail to understand.You have the verses above in your face.

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Posted: 13 October 2009 at 10:35am

Originally posted by Akhe Abdullah

Astaghfirullah!When the Qur'an says "We" it is talking about Allah and his Angels or with the help of Allah his Prophets did so and so.You fail to understand.You have the verses above in your face.

O I thought Allah do not need intercessors to do his work Allah is nor begotten or beget this shows how Allah contradict himself and the Quran.

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Posted: 13 October 2009 at 7:38pm

Originally posted by JOUBERAR

Originally posted by Akhe Abdullah

Astaghfirullah!When the Qur'an says "We" it is talking about Allah and his Angels or with the help of Allah his Prophets did so and so.You fail to understand.You have the verses above in your face.

O I thought Allah do not need intercessors to do his work Allah is nor begotten or beget this shows how Allah contradict himself and the Quran.

Astaghfirullah!Ok now you are still misunderstanding.look at it this way even in the Bible Allah sent an Angel to Mary and (Hagar)for example,And the Angel of the lord said unto her ,behold,thou art with child,and shalt bear a son,and shalt call his name Ishmael.this is a new low for you

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Posted: 13 October 2009 at 9:14pm

Originally posted by Akhe Abdullah

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Originally posted by Akhe Abdullah

Astaghfirullah!When the Qur'an says "We" it is talking about Allah and his Angels or with the help of Allah his Prophets did so and so.You fail to understand.You have the verses above in your face.

O I thought Allah do not need intercessors to do his work Allah is nor begotten or beget this shows how Allah contradict himself and the Quran.

Yes this is in the bible but in the quran it say Allah do not need intercessors is that right Allah do not need a son is that right.

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Posted: 14 October 2009 at 8:10am

Joubrar. I see replying to you is a waste to time. They are trying to do a good job with you by telling the truth but actually it is USELESS with you.

Your heart is covered with the denial and kufer. Allah covers the hearts of non-Muslims so that they can not see the light nor the truth. So it is out of your control. How much they tell you, you will not understand, except when Allah wants to bless you and guide, who knows!!!!

Otherwise, it is like when you try with a blind to see the light or with a donkey to understand the lesson!!!! Dead

And whoever seeks a religion other than Islâm, it will never be accepted of him, and in the Hereafter he will be one of the losers(3:85)

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Posted: 14 October 2009 at 8:54am

Correct Jouberar the Qur'an says that Allah does'nt have a son nor does He need one.This off topic,but since we are on this,Understand Allah does what he wants,You as a Christian believe He have a son if you want to(Astaghfirullah!), you know that we Muslims dont believe that.They are not intercessors they are servants they do what they are commanded, they hear and they obey they all did, all except Shayton.

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JOUBERAR Guest Group Joined: 13 March 2009 Online Status: Offline Posts: 573	Posted: 12 October 2009 at 3:46pm
	*Originally posted by Akhe Abdullah* AL-Qur'an 10:89-91(89)We led the Children of Israel across the sea.Fir'aun(Pharaoh)and his host pursued them with wickedness and oppression,until when drowning,he cried out:"I believe that there is none worthy of worship but He(Allah)in Whom the Children of Israel believe,and I am one of the Muslims.(90)In response,it was said to him:"Now you believe!But a little while before you were disobedient and one of the mischief-makers!(91)We shall save your body today,so that you may become a sign for the succeeding generations;indeed many among mankind are heedless of Our signs! Who is the weee led the children of Isreal across the the sea was it God and Moses Allah and and Moses or Muhammad and Allah?This is also caravan camp fire story that Muhammad may have heard or his compannions this contradicts the the torah clearly Pharaoh is in no ways saved this show you Muhammad lied openly and muslims still believe him,Like Noah had a forth son who drown in the the flood because he wasn't muslim, once if you started lying the lies goes on and on, thats Muhammad did he lied so much he believed himself.
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JOUBERAR Guest Group Joined: 13 March 2009 Online Status: Offline Posts: 573	Posted: 12 October 2009 at 4:26pm
	*Originally posted by Akhe Abdullah* *Originally posted by JOUBERAR* The Torah is 3300 years old why would God deny all this and changed His mind and give us a new manuscrip which He himself self deny his own Son and His new govenant," God never changed? Who says that God has changed.You cant belive for one minute that man has'nt played a part in changing the word of God in the Bible?Honest answer please. *Originally posted by Meditations* Dear JOUBERAR[COLOR="#>0000ff"]It seems that you're copying / pasting this from some source ( the guide you say ) This is true on another topic I was guilty of this remember matthew 8:12 [/QUOTE] COLOR="#>0000ff What is this are you getting angry is this a swear word?
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Akhe Abdullah Male Islam Senior Member Joined: 19 November 2008 Location: United States Online Status: Offline Posts: 1252	Posted: 13 October 2009 at 9:06am
	*Originally posted by JOUBERAR* Who is the weee led the children of Isreal across the the sea was it God and Moses Allah and and Moses or Muhammad and Allah?This is also caravan camp fire story that Muhammad may have heard or his compannions this contradicts the the torah clearly Pharaoh is in no ways saved this show you Muhammad lied openly and muslims still believe him,Like Noah had a forth son who drown in the the flood because he wasn't muslim, once if you started lying the lies goes on and on, thats Muhammad did he lied so much he believed himself. Astaghfirullah!When the Qur'an says "We" it is talking about Allah and his Angels or with the help of Allah his Prophets did so and so.You fail to understand.You have the verses above in your face.
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JOUBERAR Guest Group Joined: 13 March 2009 Online Status: Offline Posts: 573	Posted: 13 October 2009 at 10:35am
	*Originally posted by Akhe Abdullah* *Originally posted by JOUBERAR* Who is the weee led the children of Isreal across the the sea was it God and Moses Allah and and Moses or Muhammad and Allah?This is also caravan camp fire story that Muhammad may have heard or his compannions this contradicts the the torah clearly Pharaoh is in no ways saved this show you Muhammad lied openly and muslims still believe him,Like Noah had a forth son who drown in the the flood because he wasn't muslim, once if you started lying the lies goes on and on, thats Muhammad did he lied so much he believed himself. Astaghfirullah!When the Qur'an says "We" it is talking about Allah and his Angels or with the help of Allah his Prophets did so and so.You fail to understand.You have the verses above in your face. O I thought Allah do not need intercessors to do his work Allah is nor begotten or beget this shows how Allah contradict himself and the Quran.
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Akhe Abdullah Male Islam Senior Member Joined: 19 November 2008 Location: United States Online Status: Offline Posts: 1252	Posted: 13 October 2009 at 7:38pm
	*Originally posted by JOUBERAR* *Originally posted by Akhe Abdullah* *Originally posted by JOUBERAR* Who is the weee led the children of Isreal across the the sea was it God and Moses Allah and and Moses or Muhammad and Allah?This is also caravan camp fire story that Muhammad may have heard or his compannions this contradicts the the torah clearly Pharaoh is in no ways saved this show you Muhammad lied openly and muslims still believe him,Like Noah had a forth son who drown in the the flood because he wasn't muslim, once if you started lying the lies goes on and on, thats Muhammad did he lied so much he believed himself. Astaghfirullah!When the Qur'an says "We" it is talking about Allah and his Angels or with the help of Allah his Prophets did so and so.You fail to understand.You have the verses above in your face. O I thought Allah do not need intercessors to do his work Allah is nor begotten or beget this shows how Allah contradict himself and the Quran. Astaghfirullah!Ok now you are still misunderstanding.look at it this way even in the Bible Allah sent an Angel to Mary and (Hagar)for example,And the Angel of the lord said unto her ,behold,thou art with child,and shalt bear a son,and shalt call his name Ishmael.this is a new low for you
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JOUBERAR Guest Group Joined: 13 March 2009 Online Status: Offline Posts: 573	Posted: 13 October 2009 at 9:14pm
	*Originally posted by Akhe Abdullah* *Originally posted by JOUBERAR* *Originally posted by Akhe Abdullah* *Originally posted by JOUBERAR* Who is the weee led the children of Isreal across the the sea was it God and Moses Allah and and Moses or Muhammad and Allah?This is also caravan camp fire story that Muhammad may have heard or his compannions this contradicts the the torah clearly Pharaoh is in no ways saved this show you Muhammad lied openly and muslims still believe him,Like Noah had a forth son who drown in the the flood because he wasn't muslim, once if you started lying the lies goes on and on, thats Muhammad did he lied so much he believed himself. Astaghfirullah!When the Qur'an says "We" it is talking about Allah and his Angels or with the help of Allah his Prophets did so and so.You fail to understand.You have the verses above in your face. O I thought Allah do not need intercessors to do his work Allah is nor begotten or beget this shows how Allah contradict himself and the Quran. Astaghfirullah!Ok now you are still misunderstanding.look at it this way even in the Bible Allah sent an Angel to Mary and (Hagar)for example,And the Angel of the lord said unto her ,behold,thou art with child,and shalt bear a son,and shalt call his name Ishmael.this is a new low for you Yes this is in the bible but in the quran it say Allah do not need intercessors is that right Allah do not need a son is that right.
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Full of Hopes Female Islam Senior Member Joined: 06 August 2009 Online Status: Offline Posts: 860	Posted: 14 October 2009 at 8:10am
	Joubrar. I see replying to you is a waste to time. They are trying to do a good job with you by telling the truth but actually it is USELESS with you. Your heart is covered with the denial and kufer. Allah covers the hearts of non-Muslims so that they can not see the light nor the truth. So it is out of your control. How much they tell you, you will not understand, except when Allah wants to bless you and guide, who knows!!!! Otherwise, it is like when you try with a blind to see the light or with a donkey to understand the lesson!!!!
	And whoever seeks a religion other than Islâm, it will never be accepted of him, and in the Hereafter he will be one of the losers(3:85)
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Akhe Abdullah Male Islam Senior Member Joined: 19 November 2008 Location: United States Online Status: Offline Posts: 1252	Posted: 14 October 2009 at 8:54am
	Correct Jouberar the Qur'an says that Allah does'nt have a son nor does He need one.This off topic,but since we are on this,Understand Allah does what he wants,You as a Christian believe He have a son if you want to(Astaghfirullah!), you know that we Muslims dont believe that.They are not intercessors they are servants they do what they are commanded, they hear and they obey they all did, all except Shayton. Edited by Akhe Abdullah - 14 October 2009 at 6:39pm
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