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jibreel

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Posted: 07 August 2005 at 12:34am

nice try

you still came around seeking trouble not peace, only proves us again who
the mischief makers are,

something you will not be able to deny before you go to hell

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nico

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Posted: 07 August 2005 at 10:46am

NOW I UNDERSTAND BETTER., YOU BELIEVE ALL
MUSLIMS ARE NON-WHITES AND TERRORISTS,

Sorry but the only evident thing here is your illiteracy, you understand nothing because you cannot you Wahhabi. Mind showing me where I said Muslims were only brown, and all terrorists? If you could read properly you would see that I was using the Categorical imperative against you. Let's see how ignorant you are:

The Categorical imperative states two things, firstly if one does something he/she must will it as a universal maxim, you wanted all non-Muslims off this board thus you will as a maxim that all members who are not of x category should be expelled from discussions relating to x. Thus I said then you must not object to a racist on a board about Europe, asking for all non-Whites to get off, you are doing the same thing as he so you not I is the equilivent of that racist...lol you are the best Jibreel. Second part of the Imperative is to treat all humanas as ends and not means, and your illiterate rant against me is an example of using me as an means to somehow show me (and by implication non-Muslims) as a racist. Which anyone who could read would easily tell I am not.

CAN YOU EXPLAIN WHAT THESE SO CALLED "NON-WHITES'" DID TO YOU
FOR THIS IRRATIONAL FEAR AND RACIST POST?

Can someone explain to me how someone like you is allowed to voice an opinion if they OBVIOUSLY cannot read or comprehend language properly?

you obviously did not come here because you believed people where
threatened by muslim terrorists, you came here to take advantage of
the opportunity to attack non-whites as you just demostrated in your
xenophobic post, and which i will remind you off all the time when you
deny your racist.

I URGE you to use this post and my ensuing reply...it won't hurt me in the least it will much rather hurt you. No where have I said one word about race in the way u describe it. So if you are so oblivious to your ignorance then go ahead and use this.

So for the rest of your paranoid skitzo posts,

Show me these posts, you obviously do not even know what schzoid is or how it is spelt how can I expect you to show them? If you actually be able to read my posts you would note that I am coherent and I do not contradict myself in my posts. You are the schzoid here by sinning on a constant basis but having the audacity to show the Qu'ran as your Avatar. I see through your illiteracy.

and as i understand this, a little tiny group of CIA trained ARABS
terrorised your world with in again,

They have no question, but are you proud of these people? Its a sad commentary on how the semi-literate support things which are OBVIOUSLY anti-Islamic as these terrorist thugs. These so called Mujahedin have failed everytime the US did not support them, in Algeria, in Egypt, in Saudi Arabia, and now they are losing in the world. These Arabs who kill themselves are doing Israel the greatest favour possible:

http://www.islamicity.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1815& ;PN=1

continue your little games one you will surely lose.

about others as individuals, i have to warn you that you will putting your
foot in your mouth.,

Me...look at history its quite the opposite.

especially by assuming that all muslims are non-
whites and terrorists.

You assumed that, not I. I know white Muslims, black Muslims, Chinese Muslims, you name it they exist. I am not ignorant like you.

, i am muslim by the way, and white., though it
does not matter.

Then why mention it...schzoid right there...the VERY definition of a schzoidphrenic. God you are the BEST thing that Allah could give me.

So you should of learned that your never safe if you put
your faith in others besides ALLAH., especially when they rather to Iraq
for oil instead of helping you with your head problems?

I never supported the Iraq war, I hate celebrity idoltry, and I am a believer in Allah...I am a Catholic. But I am also a rationalist as well, and you may hate Americans but I hate ppl like you who are just as bad.

YOU BETETR LEARN WHAT FAITH IS, YOUR GONNA NEED IT IF YOU WANT
TO RID THAT DISEASE CALLED RACISM YOU GOT

You better get a book to get rid of that thing called illiteracy you got. I hope that most Muslims aren't like you...

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jibreel

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Posted: 09 August 2005 at 8:10am

Originally posted by nico

nico
I am a believer in Allah...I am a Catholic. But I am also a rationalist
as well, and you may hate Americans but I hate ppl like you w.

YOU DID IT AGAIN, ALLAHU AKBAR!!,
allah is the greatest, and i thank allah for exposing you here again.

You go from your assumption that muslims are all non whites and
terrorists exposed by your comparisons to europeens and now you do the
same with hatred as well when no none here ever had these sick notions
like you about anyone, so who is the sick puppy here with the disease in
there heart?

You want to keep coming around here to share your opinion in all your
posts as a bigot racist hater then fine, but it still does not make me like
you no matter how much you want to believe the world is this ugly place
you surrounded yourself in, so you better get that straight.

also; Your a perfect example of those ALLAH CURSED, if you really
believed in allah you would of never hated or judged anyone the way you
do.[2.8 And there are some people who say: We
believe in Allah and the last day; and they are not at all believers.
[2.9 They desire to deceive Allah and those who believe, and they deceive
only themselves and they do not perceive.
[2.10 There is a disease in their hearts, so Allah added to their disease
and they shall have a painful chastisement because they lied.
[2.11 And when it is said to them, Do not make mischief in the land, they
say: We are but peace-makers.
[2.12 Now surely they themselves are the mischief makers, but they do
not perceive.
[2.13 And when it is said to them: Believe as the people believe they say:
Shall we believe as the fools believe? Now surely they themselves are the
fools, but they do not know.
[2.14 And when they meet those who believe, they say: We believe; and
when they are alone with their Shaitans, they say: Surely we are with you,
we were only mocking.
[2.15 Allah shall pay them back their mockery, and He leaves them alone
in their inordinacy, blindly wandering on.

so if this is your idea of a Catholic then you can keep your religion and i
will stick to Islam, the religion of peace, its clear that we are NOT ALIKE.

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nico

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Posted: 09 August 2005 at 1:48pm

You go from your assumption that muslims are all non whites and
terrorists exposed by your comparisons to europeens and now you do the
same with hatred as well when no none here ever had these sick notions
like you about anyone, so who is the sick puppy here with the disease in
there heart?

What nonsense are you talking about? I never said that all Muslims are brown and terrorists...where did I say that? Show me the quote. I will be reporting you to the moderator to tell you to stop spreading misinformation and you know you are wilfully lying, which is a sin in Islam.

You want to keep coming around here to share your opinion in all your
posts as a bigot racist hater then fine, but it still does not make me like
you no matter how much you want to believe the world is this ugly place
you surrounded yourself in, so you better get that straight.

If you don't care then stop talking to me...isn't it that simple? Obviously you do care, quite a bit.

also; Your a perfect example of those ALLAH CURSED, if you really
believed in allah you would of never hated or judged anyone the way you

Those verses mean NOTHING to me...according to my religion your going straight to hell. So your religion means nothing to me, and its opinions.

so if this is your idea of a Catholic then you can keep your religion and i
will stick to Islam, the religion of peace, its clear that we are NOT ALIKE.

I never asked you to leave Islam, and I wouldn't want someone you poisioning my religion with your ignorance and illiteracy. Islam can keep you.

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Posted: 10 August 2005 at 11:50pm

i take it that your trying to say your sorry for this but you have a hard time
taking responsability to because you actualy meant it?

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jibreel

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Posted: 10 August 2005 at 11:51pm

Originally posted by nico

They are still arabic and never tampered
with

Arabic has changed since the 600's, secondly they have
obviously been tampered with if the Qu'ran in Yemen is not the same
Qu'ran you are reading in your home. In order to fully understand the
Qu'ran in its purist form, you have to understand the Arabic of the time of
Muhammed. so prove your facts for this racist ignorant gene ideologies
presented here

I assume you are attempting to make sense? What does
genetics, and racism have to do with the Qu'ran and lingustics? Plz save
your ignorance for someone else plz. You want facts here and be quiet:[/
FONT]

The new openness to studying the literary origins of the
Qu'ran got a boost when scholars began examining a cache of Qu'ranic
manuscripts discovered in a mosque in Yemen in 1972. They noticied
that some of the Arabic parchments,which included fragments from some
of the oldest ever Qu'rans, had small variations from the standard text of
the Qu'ran. These discrepancies challenge the
dominant Muslim belief that their holy book first appeared exactly as it
reads today. They suggest that the Qu'ran's text evolved
over time, that it has a linguistic history (Murphy212)

So if you are going to criticize Christians for their book, then
you should be warry that being a hypocrite is a sin.

the Bible is indeed corrupted and indeed has it said in it that
it was all along,

Why do you insist on disregarding Islamic principles, why do
you continually sin? You do know that it is haram to question the beliefs
of the people of the book. You believe what you believe, but when you try
to demean the book itself, you are sinning. Corrupted or not it is still a
holy book.

you have to make out the universal message, but i you take
part of it for bigotry then what do you have but hypocrites and liars who
are to sick to accept God created all and not just them.

Surely u are not talking about Christians, if you are you are the
most ignorant person as to the Christian message. Well to be fair you will
suffer judgement from Allah for your persecution of the book...enjoy.

think again, arabic has changed in speaking and the origional Qur'an is
intact.

The bible on the other hand has been edited so many times that 60, 000
books have been gone missing from it.

you should study religion in Syria, if your really serious about this, your
post is pure conjecture

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nico

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Posted: 11 August 2005 at 3:21pm

think again, arabic has changed in speaking and the origional Qur'an is
intact.

If that were true the experts who looked at these Qu'rans would have noted this...but they did not they noted that the Qu'ran has actually changed since that period of time. Thus your rebuttal is irrelevant the Qu'ran is not the same as it was in the time of Mohammed.

The bible on the other hand has been edited so many times that 60, 000
books have been gone missing from it.

I don't deny the manipulation of the Bible, but to me I don't mind about that changing face of the Bible the core of the religion remains the supremacy of love, God, and forgiveness. Unlike you my faith is much greater then some book.

you should study religion in Syria, if your really serious about this, your
post is pure conjecture

I doubt you can read...let alone tell me what I should do.

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Posted: 11 August 2005 at 4:24pm

Originally posted by jibreel

nice try

you still came around seeking trouble not peace, only proves us again who
the mischief makers are,

something you will not be able to deny before you go to hell

This is ridiculous human legalism and human based righteousness - "you're going to hell" no "you're going to hell" - please grow up and act a reasonable representative of your faith..what's the point of threatening another human being with hell when that action - damnation - is GOD'S purview alone. It is not yours to make that threat/judgment Jibreel. Only God/Allah is the judge of any persons motives..

Bruce
Then you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free.

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jibreel Senior Member Joined: 20 July 2005 Location: Spain Online Status: Offline Posts: 263	Posted: 07 August 2005 at 12:34am
	nice try you still came around seeking trouble not peace, only proves us again who the mischief makers are, something you will not be able to deny before you go to hell Edited by jibreel
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nico Senior Member Joined: 23 July 2005 Online Status: Offline Posts: 163	Posted: 07 August 2005 at 10:46am
	NOW I UNDERSTAND BETTER., YOU BELIEVE ALL MUSLIMS ARE NON-WHITES AND TERRORISTS, Sorry but the only evident thing here is your illiteracy, you understand nothing because you cannot you Wahhabi. Mind showing me where I said Muslims were only brown, and all terrorists? If you could read properly you would see that I was using the Categorical imperative against you. Let's see how ignorant you are: The Categorical imperative states two things, firstly if one does something he/she must will it as a universal maxim, you wanted all non-Muslims off this board thus you will as a maxim that all members who are not of x category should be expelled from discussions relating to x. Thus I said then you must not object to a racist on a board about Europe, asking for all non-Whites to get off, you are doing the same thing as he so you not I is the equilivent of that racist...lol you are the best Jibreel. Second part of the Imperative is to treat all humanas as ends and not means, and your illiterate rant against me is an example of using me as an means to somehow show me (and by implication non-Muslims) as a racist. Which anyone who could read would easily tell I am not. CAN YOU EXPLAIN WHAT THESE SO CALLED "NON-WHITES'" DID TO YOU FOR THIS IRRATIONAL FEAR AND RACIST POST? Can someone explain to me how someone like you is allowed to voice an opinion if they OBVIOUSLY cannot read or comprehend language properly? you obviously did not come here because you believed people where threatened by muslim terrorists, you came here to take advantage of the opportunity to attack non-whites as you just demostrated in your xenophobic post, and which i will remind you off all the time when you deny your racist. I URGE you to use this post and my ensuing reply...it won't hurt me in the least it will much rather hurt you. No where have I said one word about race in the way u describe it. So if you are so oblivious to your ignorance then go ahead and use this. So for the rest of your paranoid skitzo posts, Show me these posts, you obviously do not even know what schzoid is or how it is spelt how can I expect you to show them? If you actually be able to read my posts you would note that I am coherent and I do not contradict myself in my posts. You are the schzoid here by sinning on a constant basis but having the audacity to show the Qu'ran as your Avatar. I see through your illiteracy. and as i understand this, a little tiny group of CIA trained ARABS terrorised your world with in again, They have no question, but are you proud of these people? Its a sad commentary on how the semi-literate support things which are OBVIOUSLY anti-Islamic as these terrorist thugs. These so called Mujahedin have failed everytime the US did not support them, in Algeria, in Egypt, in Saudi Arabia, and now they are losing in the world. These Arabs who kill themselves are doing Israel the greatest favour possible: http://www.islamicity.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1815& ;PN=1 continue your little games one you will surely lose. about others as individuals, i have to warn you that you will putting your foot in your mouth., Me...look at history its quite the opposite. especially by assuming that all muslims are non- whites and terrorists. You assumed that, not I. I know white Muslims, black Muslims, Chinese Muslims, you name it they exist. I am not ignorant like you. , i am muslim by the way, and white., though it does not matter. Then why mention it...schzoid right there...the VERY definition of a schzoidphrenic. God you are the BEST thing that Allah could give me. So you should of learned that your never safe if you put your faith in others besides ALLAH., especially when they rather to Iraq for oil instead of helping you with your head problems? I never supported the Iraq war, I hate celebrity idoltry, and I am a believer in Allah...I am a Catholic. But I am also a rationalist as well, and you may hate Americans but I hate ppl like you who are just as bad. YOU BETETR LEARN WHAT FAITH IS, YOUR GONNA NEED IT IF YOU WANT TO RID THAT DISEASE CALLED RACISM YOU GOT You better get a book to get rid of that thing called illiteracy you got. I hope that most Muslims aren't like you... Edited by nico
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jibreel Senior Member Joined: 20 July 2005 Location: Spain Online Status: Offline Posts: 263	Posted: 09 August 2005 at 8:10am
	*Originally posted by nico* nico I am a believer in Allah...I am a Catholic. But I am also a rationalist as well, and you may hate Americans but I hate ppl like you w. YOU DID IT AGAIN, ALLAHU AKBAR!!, allah is the greatest, and i thank allah for exposing you here again. You go from your assumption that muslims are all non whites and terrorists exposed by your comparisons to europeens and now you do the same with hatred as well when no none here ever had these sick notions like you about anyone, so who is the sick puppy here with the disease in there heart? You want to keep coming around here to share your opinion in all your posts as a bigot racist hater then fine, but it still does not make me like you no matter how much you want to believe the world is this ugly place you surrounded yourself in, so you better get that straight. also; Your a perfect example of those ALLAH CURSED, if you really believed in allah you would of never hated or judged anyone the way you do.[2.8 And there are some people who say: We believe in Allah and the last day; and they are not at all believers. [2.9 They desire to deceive Allah and those who believe, and they deceive only themselves and they do not perceive. [2.10 There is a disease in their hearts, so Allah added to their disease and they shall have a painful chastisement because they lied. [2.11 And when it is said to them, Do not make mischief in the land, they say: We are but peace-makers. [2.12 Now surely they themselves are the mischief makers, but they do not perceive. [2.13 And when it is said to them: Believe as the people believe they say: Shall we believe as the fools believe? Now surely they themselves are the fools, but they do not know. [2.14 And when they meet those who believe, they say: We believe; and when they are alone with their Shaitans, they say: Surely we are with you, we were only mocking. [2.15 Allah shall pay them back their mockery, and He leaves them alone in their inordinacy, blindly wandering on. so if this is your idea of a Catholic then you can keep your religion and i will stick to Islam, the religion of peace, its clear that we are NOT ALIKE. Edited by jibreel
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nico Senior Member Joined: 23 July 2005 Online Status: Offline Posts: 163	Posted: 09 August 2005 at 1:48pm
	You go from your assumption that muslims are all non whites and terrorists exposed by your comparisons to europeens and now you do the same with hatred as well when no none here ever had these sick notions like you about anyone, so who is the sick puppy here with the disease in there heart? What nonsense are you talking about? I never said that all Muslims are brown and terrorists...where did I say that? Show me the quote. I will be reporting you to the moderator to tell you to stop spreading misinformation and you know you are wilfully lying, which is a sin in Islam. You want to keep coming around here to share your opinion in all your posts as a bigot racist hater then fine, but it still does not make me like you no matter how much you want to believe the world is this ugly place you surrounded yourself in, so you better get that straight. If you don't care then stop talking to me...isn't it that simple? Obviously you do care, quite a bit. also; Your a perfect example of those ALLAH CURSED, if you really believed in allah you would of never hated or judged anyone the way you Those verses mean NOTHING to me...according to my religion your going straight to hell. So your religion means nothing to me, and its opinions. so if this is your idea of a Catholic then you can keep your religion and i will stick to Islam, the religion of peace, its clear that we are NOT ALIKE. I never asked you to leave Islam, and I wouldn't want someone you poisioning my religion with your ignorance and illiteracy. Islam can keep you.
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jibreel Senior Member Joined: 20 July 2005 Location: Spain Online Status: Offline Posts: 263	Posted: 10 August 2005 at 11:50pm
	i take it that your trying to say your sorry for this but you have a hard time taking responsability to because you actualy meant it? Edited by jibreel
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jibreel Senior Member Joined: 20 July 2005 Location: Spain Online Status: Offline Posts: 263	Posted: 10 August 2005 at 11:51pm
	*Originally posted by nico* They are still arabic and never tampered with Arabic has changed since the 600's, secondly they have obviously been tampered with if the Qu'ran in Yemen is not the same Qu'ran you are reading in your home. In order to fully understand the Qu'ran in its purist form, you have to understand the Arabic of the time of Muhammed. so prove your facts for this racist ignorant gene ideologies presented here I assume you are attempting to make sense? What does genetics, and racism have to do with the Qu'ran and lingustics? Plz save your ignorance for someone else plz. You want facts here and be quiet:[/ FONT] The new openness to studying the literary origins of the Qu'ran got a boost when scholars began examining a cache of Qu'ranic manuscripts discovered in a mosque in Yemen in 1972. They noticied that some of the Arabic parchments,which included fragments from some of the oldest ever Qu'rans, had small variations from the standard text of the Qu'ran. These discrepancies challenge the dominant Muslim belief that their holy book first appeared exactly as it reads today. They suggest that the Qu'ran's text evolved over time, that it has a linguistic history (Murphy212) So if you are going to criticize Christians for their book, then you should be warry that being a hypocrite is a sin. the Bible is indeed corrupted and indeed has it said in it that it was all along, Why do you insist on disregarding Islamic principles, why do you continually sin? You do know that it is haram to question the beliefs of the people of the book. You believe what you believe, but when you try to demean the book itself, you are sinning. Corrupted or not it is still a holy book. you have to make out the universal message, but i you take part of it for bigotry then what do you have but hypocrites and liars who are to sick to accept God created all and not just them. Surely u are not talking about Christians, if you are you are the most ignorant person as to the Christian message. Well to be fair you will suffer judgement from Allah for your persecution of the book...enjoy. think again, arabic has changed in speaking and the origional Qur'an is intact. The bible on the other hand has been edited so many times that 60, 000 books have been gone missing from it. you should study religion in Syria, if your really serious about this, your post is pure conjecture
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nico Senior Member Joined: 23 July 2005 Online Status: Offline Posts: 163	Posted: 11 August 2005 at 3:21pm
	think again, arabic has changed in speaking and the origional Qur'an is intact. If that were true the experts who looked at these Qu'rans would have noted this...but they did not they noted that the Qu'ran has actually changed since that period of time. Thus your rebuttal is irrelevant the Qu'ran is not the same as it was in the time of Mohammed. The bible on the other hand has been edited so many times that 60, 000 books have been gone missing from it. I don't deny the manipulation of the Bible, but to me I don't mind about that changing face of the Bible the core of the religion remains the supremacy of love, God, and forgiveness. Unlike you my faith is much greater then some book. you should study religion in Syria, if your really serious about this, your post is pure conjecture I doubt you can read...let alone tell me what I should do. Edited by nico
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b95000 Senior Member Joined: 11 July 2005 Location: United States Online Status: Offline Posts: 1328	Posted: 11 August 2005 at 4:24pm
	*Originally posted by jibreel* nice try you still came around seeking trouble not peace, only proves us again who the mischief makers are, something you will not be able to deny before you go to hell This is ridiculous human legalism and human based righteousness - "you're going to hell" no "you're going to hell" - please grow up and act a reasonable representative of your faith..what's the point of threatening another human being with hell when that action - damnation - is GOD'S purview alone. It is not yours to make that threat/judgment Jibreel. Only God/Allah is the judge of any persons motives..
	Bruce Then you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free.
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