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Originally posted by believer

LOL!  Shasta -"Brilliant response, Believer!  Change the subject to the Quran when the topic is about the Bible!" 

I did no such thing.  Just a reminder to muslims that the Quran confirms the Torah and Gospel.

Attacking the quran in response to your posts about the Holy Bible would have been a tactic that muslims use all the time - twisting the topic around mentioning all the contradictions, mistakes, grammer errors, etc . 

There NOW you can say I changed the topic!!  LOL!!

You dishonor the quran everytime you say the Gospel is corrupt.   

You can discuss the quran at any time. Just start the topic in the appropriate place. I will also remind you that you never actually made a point about the Quran, you just copied and pasted the first thing you came across that gave a negative view of the Quran. I also left your link up. If you have a problem with my decision, then please take it up with admin. Furthermore, any discussion about a moderator ruling will not be done in the thread. You may send private messages, but not on the public threads. Any more discussion will be made to me or other mods through private messages, and not hear. Hope this helps.

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Andalus Moderator Group Joined: 12 October 2005 Location: United States Online Status: Offline Posts: 1187	Posted: 15 July 2009 at 6:21am
	*Originally posted by believer* LOL! Shasta -"Brilliant response, Believer! Change the subject to the Quran when the topic is about the Bible!" I did no such thing. Just a reminder to muslims that the Quran confirms the Torah and Gospel. Attacking the quran in response to your posts about the Holy Bible would have been a tactic that muslims use all the time - twisting the topic around mentioning all the contradictions, mistakes, grammer errors, etc . There NOW you can say I changed the topic!! LOL!! You dishonor the quran everytime you say the Gospel is corrupt. You can discuss the quran at any time. Just start the topic in the appropriate place. I will also remind you that you never actually made a point about the Quran, you just copied and pasted the first thing you came across that gave a negative view of the Quran. I also left your link up. If you have a problem with my decision, then please take it up with admin. Furthermore, any discussion about a moderator ruling will not be done in the thread. You may send private messages, but not on the public threads. Any more discussion will be made to me or other mods through private messages, and not hear. Hope this helps.
	A feeling of discouragement when you slip up is a sure sign that you put your faith in deeds. -Ibn 'Ata'llah http://www.sunnipath.com http://www.sunniforum.com/forum/ http://www.pt-go.com/
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Natassia Senior Member Joined: 16 July 2009 Online Status: Offline Posts: 177	Posted: 16 July 2009 at 6:44pm
	*Originally posted by Nur_Ilahi* I like this. 'When people ask me if the Bible is the word of God I answer 'which Bible?'" - Believer, what do you say of this? The Old Testament and the New Testament has all the imprints of a man-made manuscripts. God Almighty has left The Last Testament that is the Quran for the whole of mankind. Unadultered, pure and authentic. That is a sign of His Mercy to His Servants. The Bible has never claimed to be the "word of God." The word of God is the word of God. Humans can try to write it down as best they understand it, but according to the scriptures compiled in the Bible, the Word of God is eternal and was incarnated in the flesh 2000 years ago. (See John 1:1-18). Muslims believe the word of God came to earth in the form of a book. Christians believe the word of God came to earth in the form of a man. The Bible is actually more equivalent to the Hadith, not the Quran.
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Akhe Abdullah Male Islam Senior Member Joined: 19 November 2008 Location: United States Online Status: Offline Posts: 1252	Posted: 16 July 2009 at 10:37pm
	[QUOTE=Natassia] Muslims believe the word of God came to earth in the form of a book. Not necessarily, 2:117- To Him is due The primal orgin Of the heavens and the earth: When He decreeth a matter,He saith to it: "Be",And it is.see there's the Word of Allah. I would'nt compare the Bible to Hadith,You see Hadith was reported by The companions (May Allah be pleased with them.)of Prophet Muhammed(SAW)who actually knew him.
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martha Senior Member Joined: 30 October 2007 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1141	Posted: 16 July 2009 at 10:48pm
	*Originally posted by Akhe Abdullah* [QUOTE=Natassia] Muslims believe the word of God came to earth in the form of a book. Not necessarily, 2:117- To Him is due The primal orgin Of the heavens and the earth: When He decreeth a matter,He saith to it: "Be",And it is.see there's the Word of Allah. I would'nt compare the Bible to Hadith,You see Hadith was reported by The companions (May Allah be pleased with them.)of Prophet Muhammed(SAW)who actually knew him. You could argue though that the New Testament is also Hadith?...as it was written by companions of Jesus who actually knew him. Any ideas?
	some of us are a lot like cement:- all mixed up and permanently set
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Akhe Abdullah Male Islam Senior Member Joined: 19 November 2008 Location: United States Online Status: Offline Posts: 1252	Posted: 17 July 2009 at 3:41am
	Laa!
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martha Senior Member Joined: 30 October 2007 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1141	Posted: 17 July 2009 at 7:05am
	Does that mean 'yes'?
	some of us are a lot like cement:- all mixed up and permanently set
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Natassia Senior Member Joined: 16 July 2009 Online Status: Offline Posts: 177	Posted: 17 July 2009 at 8:07am
	*Originally posted by Akhe Abdullah* [QUOTE=Natassia] Muslims believe the word of God came to earth in the form of a book. Not necessarily, 2:117- To Him is due The primal orgin Of the heavens and the earth: When He decreeth a matter,He saith to it: "Be",And it is.see there's the Word of Allah. I would'nt compare the Bible to Hadith,You see Hadith was reported by The companions (May Allah be pleased with them.)of Prophet Muhammed(SAW)who actually knew him. Are you attributing the word "Be" to always be the word of Allah? You are thinking in very limited terms...limited human language. The "Word of God" is equivalent to the THOUGHTS of God expressed to humans. Like I said, Muslims believe these thoughts are recorded in the Quran, and Christians believe these thoughts are recorded in Jesus Christ. Yes, God's expression is also found in creation. However, creation does not necessarily point to Islam. It simply points to the Creator.
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Natassia Senior Member Joined: 16 July 2009 Online Status: Offline Posts: 177	Posted: 17 July 2009 at 8:10am
	*Originally posted by martha* *Originally posted by Akhe Abdullah* [QUOTE=Natassia] Muslims believe the word of God came to earth in the form of a book. Not necessarily, 2:117- To Him is due The primal orgin Of the heavens and the earth: When He decreeth a matter,He saith to it: "Be",And it is.see there's the Word of Allah. I would'nt compare the Bible to Hadith,You see Hadith was reported by The companions (May Allah be pleased with them.)of Prophet Muhammed(SAW)who actually knew him. You could argue though that the New Testament is also Hadith?...as it was written by companions of Jesus who actually knew him. Any ideas? I would say the New Testament is more like the Hadith. The Hadith have Quran verses, but they also explain the context of them from the point-of-view of the narrators. Sometimes you have one story being told by three different people, and so the hadiths somewhat differ in details. However, it doesn't necessarily mean the event didn't happen.
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