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Quote truthnowcome Replybullet Posted: 02 August 2009 at 12:15am
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Quote truthnowcome Replybullet Posted: 08 August 2009 at 5:52pm

Mr. Doug, what up Bro! You run blank! I said young men are VISSIONERIES and old men are DREAMERS! How many years you say that you study prophesy? 30! Am I correct? Do you think you wasted them?

Here is so additional info.

It is mentioned in Isaiah 29:12 (KJV) And the book is delivered (8738) to him that is not learned * (8804) , saying (8800) , Read (8798) this, I pray thee: and he saith (8804) , I am not learned (8804) .

wnTa hSpr )l ($r l(-yd) spr l(mr qr( n(-zh w(mr l( yd)Ty spr

And in that day shall the deaf hear the word of the book, and the eyes of the blind shall see out of obscurity and out of darkness. The meek also shall increase their joy in the Lord, and they among men shall rejoice in the Holy one of Israel. (Isaiah.29:18-19)

That prophesy was fulfilled by Muhammad (S):  

Link: History recorded that: Muhammad (S) used to go up mountain cave, called Ghar-Hera, in Arabia (Mt. Paran) to meditate. While he was there an angel, later identified as Gabriel, commanded him saying: “read” and he respond by saying: “I am not learned,” the angel repeat the act three times, then Muhammad (S) began to repeat the command of the angel which became the first five verse of surah 96, Al-Alaq, of the Qur’an. 

  Read: In the name of thy Lord who created. Created man from a clot. Read: and thy Lord is the Most Bounteous, Who taught by the pen, Taught man which he knew not. (Q.96:1-5)

   Allah conform it in the Quran: Those who fallow the Messenger, the unlettered Prophet, whom they find mention in their own (Scriptures), In the Taurat {Torah} and the Injeel (Gospel). (Q.7:157).

   And thou (O Muhammad) was not (able) to recite a book before this (book came), nor art thou (able) to transcribe it with thy right hand: in that case indeed, would the talkers of vanity have doubted. (Q.29:48)

   Nor does he say (aught) of (his own) desire. It is no less than inspiration sent down to him. He was taught by one mighty in power. (Q.53:3-5)

 

After mentioned that I will look further in Isaiah 29

It begins: 

1Woe to Ariel, to Ariel, the city where David dwelt! add ye year to year; let them kill sacrifices.

 2Yet I will distress Ariel, and there shall be heaviness and sorrow: and it shall be unto me as Ariel.

 3And I will camp against thee round about, and will lay siege against thee with a mount, and I will raise forts against thee.

  God is pronouncing Judgment against the city of Jerusalem. There were two sets of people of whom Judgment will come upon. Let read:

V.4 And thou shalt be brought down, and shalt speak out of the ground, and thy speech shall be low out of the dust, and thy voice shall be, as of one that hath a familiar spirit, out of the ground, and thy speech shall whisper out of the dust.

Who are these people? Verse 5 tells us who they are:

 5Moreover the multitude of thy strangers shall be like small dust, and the multitude of the terrible ones shall be as chaff that passeth away: yea, it shall be at an instant suddenly.

It is all about multitude of thy stranger and the multitude of the terrible ones.

 2 mentioned:

Yet I will distress Ariel, and there shall be heaviness and sorrow: and it shall be unto me as Ariel.”

Thy stranger will be unto God as Ariel! The multitude of stranger shall be like small dust but the multitude of the terrible ones shall be as chaff that passeth away. Who are the terrible ones? It is the leader of the suppose Jews’! How de know that?  

Isaiah29:10 mentioned: “For the LORD hath poured out upon you the spirit of deep sleep, and hath closed your eyes: the prophets and your rulers, the seers hath he covered”.

Prophet Hood ended at that Junction! Isaiah 28 gives you in full details: It is mentioned in Isaiah.28:2 when the “Mighty Strong One” will come:

“But they (supposed Jews) also have erred through wine, and through strong drink are out of the way; the priest and the prophet are swallowed up of wine, they are out of the way through strong drink; the err in vision, they stumble in judgment. For all tables are full of vomit and filthiness, so that there is no place clean. Whom shall he teach knowledge? And whom shall he make understand doctrine? Them that are weaned from the milk, and drawn from the breast.” Isaiah.28:7-9

  They are the multitude of the terrible ones against multitude of thy stranger! This is how they were described in Isaiah 28: 14:

“Wherefore hear the word of the Lord, ye scornful men, that rule this people which is in Jerusalem.”

 God Almighty is talking about “scornful men,” that “rule the people” which in Jerusalem: The leaders who rule Jerusalem and not the Jews, he describe them as “scornful men” and this would be at the advent of Muhammad (S).

And the “word of the Lord” describes them:

 Isaiah.28:15  “Because ye (scornful men that rule this people which is in Jerusalem.) have said, We have made a covenant with death, and hell are we at agreement; When the overflowing scourge shall pass through, it shall not come unto us: for we (scornful men) made LIES our refuge, and under FALSEHOOD have we hide ourselves.”

They made a covenant with death, and hell when the Mighty Strong One will come who is no other than [Muhammad (S)]. So, both prophesy tied into each other, Isaiah 28 and 29!

 

  Those judgments that mentioned in Isaiah 28:2-5 will occur at the beginning of the end of the prophet Hood of the Jews’ until the siege of the multitude of stranger, which is now; they terrible ones will be as “chaff that passeth away.” (Isaiah 29:5)

Isa 29:20 For the terrible one is brought to nought, and the scorner is consumed, and all that watch for iniquity are cut off:

Now, God Almighty gives the reason why has ended the Prophet Hood with the Jews:

Wherefore the Lord said, Forasmuch as this people draw near me with their mouth, and with their lips do honour me, but have remove their heart far from me, and their fear towards me is taught by the precept of men. (Isaiah.29:13)

   Therefore, behold, I will proceed to do a marvelous work among this people, even a marvelous work and wonder: for the wisdom of their wise men shall perish, and the understanding of their prudent men shall be hid. (Isaiah29:14)

Woe unto them (the leader of the Jews’) that seek deep to hide their counsel from the Lord, and their work are in darkness, and they say, who Seeth us? And who knoweth us? Surely your turning of things up-side down shall be esteemed as the putter’s clay… (Isaiah29:15-16)

“Because ye (scornful men that rule this people which is in Jerusalem.) have said, We have made a covenant with death, and hell are we at agreement; When the overflowing scourge shall pass through, it shall not come unto us: for we (scornful men) made LIES our refuge, and under FALSEHOOD have we hide ourselves.” Isaiah.28:15

Jesus (S) told them in:

 Matt.21:43 “Therefore say I unto you The kingdom of God shall taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof.”

This is the Lord’s doings, and it is marvelous in our eyes. (Matt.21:42)

  And in that day (when the book is reveled to the unlettered Prophet) shall the deaf hear the word of the book, and the eyes of the blind shall see out of obscurity and out of darkness. The meek also shall increase their joy in the Lord, and they among men shall rejoice in the Holy one of Israel. (Isaiah.29:18-19)

Compare closing of the eyes of the Jews:

 Isaiah29:10  For the LORD hath poured out upon you the spirit of deep sleep, and hath closed your eyes: the prophets and your rulers, the seers hath he covered”.

HOW SUDELLY THE HOLY ONE OF ISREAL APPEAR THERE WHEN GOD ALMIGHTY CLOSE THE EYES OF THE PROPHET OF THE JEWS? DOESN’T ADD UP!

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Quote Douggg Replybullet Posted: 08 August 2009 at 11:51pm

Originally posted by truthnowcome

Revelation11 the destruction of the Temple!

Hi Mr. Zainool,   I read through your posts.   The two witnesses in Revelation will be two men, who will be prophets, Revelation 11:6 These have power to shut heaven, that it rain not in the days of their prophecy and have power over waters to turn them to blood, and to smite the earth with all plagues, as often as they will.

They also issue those plagues on a global scale.   The church doesn't issue plagues.   The two witnesses will be two individuals.   Almost certainly one of the two witnesses will be Elijah, who in supposed to come before the great terrible day of the Lord, Malachi 4:5-6.

Jews are expecting Elijah as well.   

There is a false prophet who will appear along side of the Antichrist.   The false prophet will probably claim to be Elijah.

The 1260 days of the two witnesses testimony is literal days.   The 1260 days is the first half of the seven year time of the Antichrist.   

The 3 1/2 days which the two witnesses lay dead in the streets of Jerusalem is literal.   The people of the earth will rejoice over their death.  

I point that out because in your interpretations you have made critical errors in not taking the days as literal, but as each day is a year.  Mr. Zainool, all of the timeframes of the end times have to fit within the 7 years of the Antichrist, which is the 70th week of Daniel 9.

The 2300 days of Daniel 8, the times and half times of Daniel 7, the 1290 days and 1335th day of Daniel 12, the 42 months of Revelation 13, the 1260 days of Revelation 11, the 1260 days of Revelation 12, the time and half times of Revelation 12, the 7 years of Ezekiel 39, ...... all have to fit within the 70th week of Daniel 9.

Doug L.

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