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Noah

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Posted: 19 July 2005 at 5:33pm

Originally posted by b95000

Now that they have effectively killed christianity (their main purpose) the turn has come to us.

Huh? How do you gather this? You mean what you view as 'robust' Christianity? So this is some sort of judgement upon that Faith?

Do you know what the "christianity" comming out of the vatican really is? If you dont, i understand. If you do, i dont understand that youre asking.
The problem the vatican have with people like certain protestants, calvinists etc is that they are following prophet Isa the best of their efford. The vatican has never been about prophets or anything holy for that matter. The only thing holy in rome is the storys. they are full of holes.

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Posted: 21 July 2005 at 12:26am

Let me put it this way, I try to see things neither out of context nor without any context. So, from your frame of reference I wanted you to know that I am neither unneccesary subjective nor wholly objective.

West only helps those who can help it. I see so many Indians applying for visa to the West but only those who are highly qualified (and not those who need it the most/not accoding to their needs) are permitted.

An enemy of an enemy is a fickle friend.
There will be more women in hell than men.
..for persecution is worse than the slaughter of the enemy..(Quran 2:191)
Heaven lies under mother's feet

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Posted: 25 July 2005 at 6:46pm

Originally posted by ZamanH

OK, it's fair to be try to be as objective as possible while retaining your point of view, of course. I just don't think using the word 'disdain' fits in with that. Perhaps you can explain..

I don't think we can demand that the West solve all of the problems of all of the needy of the world...there are many, many solutions that will come out of the second and thirld worlds as well...and out of the NICs (newly industrialized countries..)

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Bruce
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Posted: 27 July 2005 at 3:44pm

You know Prof Stilglitz? He is an American. Been the top guy at the World Bank. He has proved that because of American stranglehold of global money and the way corporate America operates - the poor of the world can only keep dying for a loaf of bread.

When American kiss hit Russia the Americans had sucked over 200 billion dollars from that country - illegally. The production went down 40%. Poverty was 2.1% - it shot up 10 times.

Today that country has all the American ills. Mafia, prostitution, drugs, street crime and even the size enhancement website!!

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Posted: 27 July 2005 at 11:05pm

Then I think it's time for the Muslims living in the civilized parts of the world to go back to the barbaric Islamic land! If you can't stand the heat, then get out of the kitchen!

To Hell With Terrorism! (I don't believe in the "made up Hell that's in the fiction books, but rather an Island in the Cayman Islands)

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Posted: 28 July 2005 at 3:15am

mods remove this clown please

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Posted: 28 July 2005 at 7:45am

Originally posted by Noah

mods remove this clown please

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He hasn't been back yet; maybe his mommy caught him playing with her computer and sent him to bed.

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Posted: 28 July 2005 at 11:14am

LOL

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Noah Senior Member Joined: 25 June 2005 Online Status: Offline Posts: 199	Posted: 19 July 2005 at 5:33pm
	*Originally posted by b95000* Now that they have effectively killed christianity (their main purpose) the turn has come to us. Huh? How do you gather this? You mean what you view as 'robust' Christianity? So this is some sort of judgement upon that Faith? Do you know what the "christianity" comming out of the vatican really is? If you dont, i understand. If you do, i dont understand that youre asking. The problem the vatican have with people like certain protestants, calvinists etc is that they are following prophet Isa the best of their efford. The vatican has never been about prophets or anything holy for that matter. The only thing holy in rome is the storys. they are full of holes. Peace Noah
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ZamanH Guest Group Account Suspended Joined: 21 July 2004 Location: India Online Status: Offline Posts: 448	Posted: 21 July 2005 at 12:26am
	Let me put it this way, I try to see things neither out of context nor without any context. So, from your frame of reference I wanted you to know that I am neither unneccesary subjective nor wholly objective. West only helps those who can help it. I see so many Indians applying for visa to the West but only those who are highly qualified (and not those who need it the most/not accoding to their needs) are permitted.
	An enemy of an enemy is a fickle friend. There will be more women in hell than men. ..for persecution is worse than the slaughter of the enemy..(Quran 2:191) Heaven lies under mother's feet
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b95000 Senior Member Joined: 11 July 2005 Location: United States Online Status: Offline Posts: 1328	Posted: 25 July 2005 at 6:46pm
	*Originally posted by ZamanH* Let me put it this way, I try to see things neither out of context nor without any context. So, from your frame of reference I wanted you to know that I am neither unneccesary subjective nor wholly objective. West only helps those who can help it. I see so many Indians applying for visa to the West but only those who are highly qualified (and not those who need it the most/not accoding to their needs) are permitted. OK, it's fair to be try to be as objective as possible while retaining your point of view, of course. I just don't think using the word 'disdain' fits in with that. Perhaps you can explain.. I don't think we can demand that the West solve all of the problems of all of the needy of the world...there are many, many solutions that will come out of the second and thirld worlds as well...and out of the NICs (newly industrialized countries..) Edited by b95000
	Bruce Then you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free.
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Whisper Male Other Senior Member Joined: 25 July 2004 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 4752	Posted: 27 July 2005 at 3:44pm
	You know Prof Stilglitz? He is an American. Been the top guy at the World Bank. He has proved that because of American stranglehold of global money and the way corporate America operates - the poor of the world can only keep dying for a loaf of bread. When American kiss hit Russia the Americans had sucked over 200 billion dollars from that country - illegally. The production went down 40%. Poverty was 2.1% - it shot up 10 times. Today that country has all the American ills. Mafia, prostitution, drugs, street crime and even the size enhancement website!!
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hazeshawn Newbie Joined: 27 July 2005 Location: United States Online Status: Offline Posts: 9	Posted: 27 July 2005 at 11:05pm
	Then I think it's time for the Muslims living in the civilized parts of the world to go back to the barbaric Islamic land! If you can't stand the heat, then get out of the kitchen!
	To Hell With Terrorism! (I don't believe in the "made up Hell that's in the fiction books, but rather an Island in the Cayman Islands)
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Noah Senior Member Joined: 25 June 2005 Online Status: Offline Posts: 199	Posted: 28 July 2005 at 3:15am
	mods remove this clown please peace noah
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Yusuf. Senior Member Joined: 02 July 2001 Location: far from home Online Status: Offline Posts: 2385	Posted: 28 July 2005 at 7:45am
	*Originally posted by Noah* mods remove this clown please peace noah He hasn't been back yet; maybe his mommy caught him playing with her computer and sent him to bed.
	Yusuf
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Noah Senior Member Joined: 25 June 2005 Online Status: Offline Posts: 199	Posted: 28 July 2005 at 11:14am
	LOL
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