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Jamal- Popes are human. I am not Catholic so I do not believe he is infallible.

Here is an example that shows even clerics are sinful and at times misunderstand their faith.

http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=2009\06\17\story_17-6-2009_pg7_5

Family killed in name of honour

SHAHDADKOT: Three persons including a woman and a child were killed in the name of honour by a group of armed men in a village near the Sanjar Bhatti Police Station, Shahdadkot district on Tuesday.

Two people, Abdul Rasheed Junejo and his 3-year-old son Rashid, were killed by a group of armed men led by Imam Bux Brohi.

According to the police report, the accused also shot and killed Junejo’s wife.

Police have arrested the accused, Imam Bux Brohi, and Abdullah Brohi for their involvement in the murders.

Honour killing is the murder of a family or clan member by one or more fellow family members, where the murderers and potentially the wider community believe the victim to have brought dishonour upon the family, clan, or community. app

believer,

I am not understanding your putting this story with misunderstanding one's faith, and the cleric connection? from where you assumed that this person was a religious cleric? Also letting you know that Imam Bux is a pretty common name in Balochistan and Sindh for a man. So go ahead and explain. And Brahvi people are from Balochistan, rarely very religious, most inclined to their culture more so.

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Edited by honeto - 18 June 2009 at 2:29pm

39:64 Proclaim: Is it some one other than God that you order me to worship, O you ignorant ones?"

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Unbelievable!Hey kids this is what molestation looks like.What is this? Catholisism the poster child.sick

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Posted: 14 October 2009 at 7:38pm

"A picture speaks thousand words" so true in the logo...
If anyone researches the level of debauchery around early popes this whole sex thing would look trivial...they are so doggone conflicted or smart that instead of taking the normal middle course like any normal human they created a paradox with a well thought-out plan not apparent for the simpleton observer...And that they have a sword hanging over priest and laity alike to keep their dogmatic and financial control on the sheeple...
An ordained priest is a money stream for the RC church given the supposed supernatural powers who changes the bread and wine into body and blood of Christ with a sleight of hand and the laity captive tax payer for the salvation of the dead soul...He is an addict to the life style and if commits any sex crime can be moved around the world anywhere and the layman can't give up the seat on the redemption bus until the realization that the whole thing was a charade...

Now here comes the rub of the paradox ... the celibate priest has access to the tremendous sin secrets of the laity through confessionals those may run like a pornographic soap opera at times so has power over them...The children become an automatic victims who dare not expose their predicaments till late in life...It is no secret anymore at least in the US and the RC has been making big payouts to settle multi million dollar law suits...

Just think after all the wholesale indulgences marketing by Pope to build Rome's basilica... Martin Luther who btw had read Quran raised the flag of rebellion against RC church but even he started his own Protestant church instead of becoming a Muslim...It seems the European is wired different than middle eastern crowd IMHO...

Edited by Sign*Reader - 15 October 2009 at 12:26pm

Kismet Domino: Faith/Courage/Liberty/Abundance/Selfishness/Immorality/Apathy/Bondage or extinction.

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the celibate priest has access to the tremendous sin secrets.True

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hat2010 Senior Member Joined: 10 October 2006 Location: Neutral Zone Online Status: Offline Posts: 562	Posted: 18 June 2009 at 12:36pm
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honeto Senior Member Joined: 20 March 2008 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2340	Posted: 18 June 2009 at 2:19pm
	*Originally posted by believer* Jamal- Popes are human. I am not Catholic so I do not believe he is infallible. Here is an example that shows even clerics are sinful and at times misunderstand their faith. http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=2009\06\17\story_17-6-2009_pg7_5 Family killed in name of honour SHAHDADKOT: Three persons including a woman and a child were killed in the name of honour by a group of armed men in a village near the Sanjar Bhatti Police Station, Shahdadkot district on Tuesday. Two people, Abdul Rasheed Junejo and his 3-year-old son Rashid, were killed by a group of armed men led by Imam Bux Brohi. According to the police report, the accused also shot and killed Junejo’s wife. Police have arrested the accused, Imam Bux Brohi, and Abdullah Brohi for their involvement in the murders. Honour killing is the murder of a family or clan member by one or more fellow family members, where the murderers and potentially the wider community believe the victim to have brought dishonour upon the family, clan, or community. app believer, I am not understanding your putting this story with misunderstanding one's faith, and the cleric connection? from where you assumed that this person was a religious cleric? Also letting you know that Imam Bux is a pretty common name in Balochistan and Sindh for a man. So go ahead and explain. And Brahvi people are from Balochistan, rarely very religious, most inclined to their culture more so. Hasan Edited by honeto - 18 June 2009 at 2:29pm
	39:64 Proclaim: Is it some one other than God that you order me to worship, O you ignorant ones?"
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hat2010 Senior Member Joined: 10 October 2006 Location: Neutral Zone Online Status: Offline Posts: 562	Posted: 19 July 2009 at 6:10am
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hat2010 Senior Member Joined: 10 October 2006 Location: Neutral Zone Online Status: Offline Posts: 562	Posted: 14 October 2009 at 11:00am
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Akhe Abdullah Male Islam Senior Member Joined: 19 November 2008 Location: United States Online Status: Offline Posts: 1252	Posted: 14 October 2009 at 11:07am
	Unbelievable!Hey kids this is what molestation looks like.What is this? Catholisism the poster child.sick
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Sign*Reader Senior Member Joined: 02 November 2005 Online Status: Offline Posts: 3352	Posted: 14 October 2009 at 7:38pm
	"A picture speaks thousand words" so true in the logo... If anyone researches the level of debauchery around early popes this whole sex thing would look trivial...they are so doggone conflicted or smart that instead of taking the normal middle course like any normal human they created a paradox with a well thought-out plan not apparent for the simpleton observer...And that they have a sword hanging over priest and laity alike to keep their dogmatic and financial control on the sheeple... An ordained priest is a money stream for the RC church given the supposed supernatural powers who changes the bread and wine into body and blood of Christ with a sleight of hand and the laity captive tax payer for the salvation of the dead soul...He is an addict to the life style and if commits any sex crime can be moved around the world anywhere and the layman can't give up the seat on the redemption bus until the realization that the whole thing was a charade... Now here comes the rub of the paradox ... the celibate priest has access to the tremendous sin secrets of the laity through confessionals those may run like a pornographic soap opera at times so has power over them...The children become an automatic victims who dare not expose their predicaments till late in life...It is no secret anymore at least in the US and the RC has been making big payouts to settle multi million dollar law suits... Just think after all the wholesale indulgences marketing by Pope to build Rome's basilica... Martin Luther who btw had read Quran raised the flag of rebellion against RC church but even he started his own Protestant church instead of becoming a Muslim...It seems the European is wired different than middle eastern crowd IMHO... Edited by Sign*Reader - 15 October 2009 at 12:26pm
	Kismet Domino: Faith/Courage/Liberty/Abundance/Selfishness/Immorality/Apathy/Bondage or extinction.
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Akhe Abdullah Male Islam Senior Member Joined: 19 November 2008 Location: United States Online Status: Offline Posts: 1252	Posted: 15 October 2009 at 12:53am
	the celibate priest has access to the tremendous sin secrets.True Edited by Akhe Abdullah - 15 October 2009 at 12:53am
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