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Akhe Abdullah
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He(Allah) (alone)knows the Unseen, Nor does He make anyone Acquainted with His Mysteries"Except a messenger Whom He has chosen:And then he makes Aband of watchers March before him And behind him,"That he may know That they have (truly)Brought and delivered The Messages of their Lord:And He surrounds(All the mysteries)that are with them,and takes account Of every single thing." 72:( 26-28)
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Akhe Abdullah
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Originally posted by JOUBERAR
Originally posted by Akhe Abdullah Why do you Lie on Prophet Muhammed(SAW)? Are you trying to offend Muslims here?Who or where did you read that Muhammed(SAW)was rich?What is the source of your information some anti-Islamic site?Ofcourse like I said before Keep trying and Islam is steady thriving(Alhamduillah)!!(AllahuAkbar)!!
You should ask Allah to forgive you!Is it fun to you to say things about Prophet Muhammed(SAW)that you know not. Bismillahir Rahmanir Rahim ,Qul ya aiyuhal Kafirun,La a budun ma ta budun, wa la antum abiduna ma a bud,wa la ana abidum ma abattum,wa la antum abiduna ma a bud lakum dinukum wa liya din.Suratul Al Kafirun(The Kafir) Muhammad was not prophet the real GOD never announced his birth place and his conception or birthday.
Muhammad ordained himself as a prophet and every time he comitted atrocities he then stated Allah give him permission like the raids and having committing adultry and mary a 6 year old girl and took his adoupted son's wive and the people that he raided he took thier wives as slaves then he said Allah permit him to do so.
Moses was a descendent of the tribe of Levi, one of the twelve sons of Jacob, who was renamed Israel. Unlike Moses, though Muhammad’s genealogy is not mentioned in the Koran, he is said to be a descendent of Ishmael, NOT Israel.
The so called prophecies of Muhammad in the bible is the biggest lie and biggest sin in the world that muslims have comitted to formulate God's word in a unformidable lie directed it into thier scriptures and and twisted it so and brain washed Innocent God loving people who are serious about thier faith and convince them with lies and false doctrines and tell Muhammad's words is God' so called word you can see when he raided and looted the Arabs he gave some of the booty he gave assumingly to Allah and some of the booty he take for himself and what happens Allah's booty Muhammad have taken it for himself cos he know he lied to his compannions about Allah it was only way to get him rich and mislead his mercenaries his stories about Allah was a form of security to get rich fast and legalise the extinction of his enemies.
His followers are still doing it today just shall I say in a more civilised manner but if listen to the news the muslims are not so civilized when killing someone just to go to Muhammad's so called parsdise. |
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JOUBERAR
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Joined: 13 March 2009 Location: South Africa Online Status: Online Posts: 347 |
![]() Posted: 11 July 2009 at 12:35am |
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Originally posted by Akhe Abdullah
Originally posted by JOUBERAR
Originally posted by Akhe Abdullah Why do you Lie on Prophet Muhammed(SAW)? Are you trying to offend Muslims here?Who or where did you read that Muhammed(SAW)was rich?What is the source of your information some anti-Islamic site?Ofcourse like I said before Keep trying and Islam is steady thriving(Alhamduillah)!!(AllahuAkbar)!!You should ask Allah to forgive you!Is it fun to you to say things about Prophet Muhammed(SAW)that you know not. Bismillahir Rahmanir Rahim ,Qul ya aiyuhal Kafirun,La a budun ma ta budun, wa la antum abiduna ma a bud,wa la ana abidum ma abattum,wa la antum abiduna ma a bud lakum dinukum wa liya din.Suratul Al Kafirun(The Kafir) Muhammad was not prophet the real GOD never announced his birth place and his conception or birthday. Muhammad ordained himself as a prophet and every time he comitted atrocities he then stated Allah give him permission like the raids and having committing adultry and mary a 6 year old girl and took his adoupted son's wive and the people that he raided he took thier wives as slaves then he said Allah permit him to do so. Moses was a descendent of the tribe of Levi, one of the twelve sons of Jacob, who was renamed Israel. Unlike Moses, though Muhammad’s genealogy is not mentioned in the Koran, he is said to be a descendent of Ishmael, NOT Israel. The so called prophecies of Muhammad in the bible is the biggest lie and biggest sin in the world that muslims have comitted to formulate God's word in a unformidable lie directed it into thier scriptures and and twisted it so and brain washed Innocent God loving people who are serious about thier faith and convince them with lies and false doctrines and tell Muhammad's words is God' so called word you can see when he raided and looted the Arabs he gave some of the booty he gave assumingly to Allah and some of the booty he take for himself and what happens Allah's booty Muhammad have taken it for himself cos he know he lied to his compannions about Allah it was only way to get him rich and mislead his mercenaries his stories about Allah was a form of security to get rich fast and legalise the extinction of his enemies. His followers are still doing it today just shall I say in a more civilised manner but if listen to the news the muslims are not so civilized when killing someone just to go to Muhammad's so called parsdise. May be you you haven't read the Quran and the hadiths completly it l tells all about what Muhammad have done so go and read and if can't find anything let me I will show you.
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Akhe Abdullah
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I already asked for your source,I have read and still read both and you truly have'nt, and you have no knowlegde of what you speak of,Again I ask you where did you read that Prophet Muhammed(SAW)was rich?and out of respect for our beloved Prohet Muhammed(SAW),you should put(SAW)behind his(SAW)name.some of the things you post on this forum are very disrespectful.
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Douggg
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Originally posted by Akhe Abdullah I already asked for your source,I have read and still read both and you truly have'nt, and you have no knowlegde of what you speak of,Again I ask you where did you read that Prophet Muhammed(SAW)was rich?and out of respect for our beloved Prohet Muhammed(SAW),you should put(SAW)behind his(SAW)name.some of the things you post on this forum are very disrespectful. Hi Akhe, I am a Christian, and I just glanced through your last couple of posts. I personally have never read the muslim books nor intend to - not much time left before the rapture of the church - so i personally can't respond to your request for source - in terms of surahs and hadiths. However, on "you tube" I have listened to many many debates between "christian prince" and various muslim guests, including the subjects brought up in your last couple of exchanges. Have you ever listened to some of "christian prince's" you tube debates? btw, i just made a post over in the Future Thoughts thread that you might be interested in. Doug L. |
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JOUBERAR
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![]() Posted: 12 July 2009 at 6:56am |
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Originally posted by Akhe Abdullah
I already asked for your source,I have read and still read both and you truly have'nt, and you have no knowlegde of what you speak of,Again I ask you where did you read that Prophet Muhammed(SAW)was rich?and out of respect for our beloved Prohet Muhammed(SAW),you should put(SAW)behind his(SAW)name.some of the things you post on this forum are very disrespectful. In your Noble Quran he was stinking rich of all his robberies that he have committed.
You are a muslim but you don't even know your scriptures are blind or what ,or do never read the Quran or study the history of Islam.
Al-Anfal - Spoils Of War, Booty - Madinan
8:17 It is not ye who slew them; it was Allah: when thou threwest (a handful of dust), it was not thy act, but Allah's: in order that He might test the Believers by a gracious trial from Himself: for Allah is He Who heareth and knoweth (all things). 8:41 And know that out of all the booty that ye may acquire (in war), a fifth share is assigned to Allah,- and to the Apostle, and to near relatives, orphans, the needy, and the wayfarer,- if ye do believe in Allah and in the revelation We sent down to Our servant on the Day of Testing,- the Day of the meeting of the two forces. For Allah hath power over all things.
The Islamic Sira proclaims: Ishaq:587 "Our onslaught will not be a weak faltering affair. We shall fight as long as we live. We will fight until you turn to Islam, humbly seeking refuge. We will fight not caring whom we meet. We will fight whether we destroy ancient holdings or newly gotten gains. We have mutilated every opponent. We have driven them violently before us at the command of Allah and Islam. We will fight until our religion is established. And we will plunder them, for they must suffer disgrace."
Al-Baqara - The Cow - Madinan
Nouble Quran.
59:8 "The spoils [booty & plunder] are for the Emigrants who were expelled from their homes and from their belongings while seeking the bounty of Allah, and aiding His Messenger: such are the sincere ones. They are loyal."
63:10 "Spend out of the substance [booty & plunder] which We gave you before death comes and you say, 'My Lord, why didn't You give me respite for a little while? I wish I had given (more).'" [See Bukhari Hadith 2.522 to explain this verse.]
I hope this is enough for you there is plenty more. Edited by JOUBERAR - 12 July 2009 at 6:57am |
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Akhe Abdullah
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![]() Posted: 13 July 2009 at 8:08am |
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Originally posted by Douggg Wasalam,Doug.No I never heard of "Christian prince"But I have watched many debates with various Christian Prechers vs Ahmed Didott you should check them out, very good!
Originally posted by Akhe Abdullah Hi Akhe, I am a Christian, and I just glanced through your last couple of posts.I personally have never read the muslim books nor intend to - not much time left before the rapture of the church - so i personally can't respond to your request for source - in terms of surahs and hadiths. However, on "you tube" I have listened to many many debates between "christian prince" and various muslim guests, including the subjects brought up in your last couple of exchanges. Have you ever listened to some of "christian prince's" you tube debates?btw, i just made a post over in the Future Thoughts thread that you might be interested in.Doug L.I already asked for your source,I have read and still read both and you truly have'nt, and you have no knowlegde of what you speak of,Again I ask you where did you read that Prophet Muhammed(SAW)was rich?and out of respect for our beloved Prohet Muhammed(SAW),you should put(SAW)behind his(SAW)name.some of the things you post on this forum are very disrespectful. |
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Akhe Abdullah
Male Islam Senior Member
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First off Jouberar,I have waited for a proper response from you about your proof that Prophet Muhammed(SAW) was rich,and you gave me nothing stating that. In Islam we deal with facts that are backed by reliable sources.The fact is that Prophet Muhammed(SAW)was(This is adressing your post as a whole) allowed to keep spoils of war,but never accumulated any wealth. He gave it all away in sadaqa(charity)even when he(SAW) died he had nothing he slept on a bed of leaves and or hay(does this sound like a rich man to you?)nice try with the Al Tawbah 9:29)I know Qur'an better than you,did you know that Al Tawbah is a warning to Muslims it's the only Surah that starts without Bismillahir Rahmanir Rahim.You should do more studing from your own book before you approach a Muslim about his knowledge of Qur'an anything I have questions about there are many Shayks I can ask.
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Akhe Abdullah
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![]() Posted: 13 July 2009 at 10:31am |
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In your Noble Quran he was stinking rich of all his robberies that he have committed.
You are a muslim but you don't even know your scriptures are blind or what ,or do never read the Quran or study the history of Islam.
9 :29 Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Apostle, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued. Ahki response:Nice try yet you fail miserly again.I read Qur'an with understanding that you clearly are lacking.You have quoted nothing that supports your claim.Jizyah:A tax paid by non-Muslims living in a Muslim state.Since the non-Muslims are exempt frm military service and taxes imposed on Muslims,they must pay this tax to compensate.It garuntees them security and protection.If the state cannot protect those who paid jizah,then the amount they paid is returned to them.Next time know what you are talking about or put your post in question form and please stop using the Qur'an to show how ignorant you are of it.
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Akhe Abdullah
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![]() Posted: 13 July 2009 at 11:46am |
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(Sahih Bukhari 005.059 .610)Reported by Abu Qatada. The Prophet(SAW) said "Abu Barkr(RAD) has spoken the truth.Give it (the spoils)back to him(O man)! So he gave it to me (Abu Qatada)and I bought a garden (in the land of)Banu Salama with it (i.e. the spoils)and that was the first property I got after embracing Islam.(ALHamduillah)!
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