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Quote Akhe Abdullah Replybullet Posted: 04 July 2009 at 6:42am
Whats your point,that you read and dont understand look at yourself bro.You post in bold big letters and still find away to not make sence.
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Quote Akhe Abdullah Replybullet Posted: 04 July 2009 at 7:05am
I told you already you can try all you want Jouberar,Islam is the fastest growing religion the first religion and the largest religion. Even Jesus(AS) is a Muslim.

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Quote JOUBERAR Replybullet Posted: 04 July 2009 at 10:32am
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Whats your point,that you read and dont understand look at yourself bro.You post in bold big letters and still find away to not make sence.
 
What is a navel it is not a womans privates it is a belly button.
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Quote JOUBERAR Replybullet Posted: 04 July 2009 at 11:02am
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Whats your point,that you read and dont understand look at yourself bro.You post in bold big letters and still find away to not make sence.
 
Does it make sense to to you when the quran stated the sun sets in a murky pool of water you only believe cos it stand so in th Quran.
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Quote JOUBERAR Replybullet Posted: 04 July 2009 at 1:42pm
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I told you already you can try all you want Jouberar,Islam is the fastest growing religion the first religion and the largest religion. Even Jesus(AS) is a Muslim.
 
Galatians 1:6-9 Apostle Paul says "I am amazed that you are so quickly deserting Christ for a different religion. But even if an angel from heaven, should preach to you a different religion, let him be accursed." My question is: Do you think it possible that this is a genuine text from God and he foresaw that both Muhammad and Joseph Smith would be taught a new false religion by an angel?
 
My other question is who was the first one to start spreading islam?
 
 
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Quote JOUBERAR Replybullet Posted: 04 July 2009 at 2:58pm

To the truth.

The comparison between Moses and Jesus
Moses Jesus
Pharaoh orders Jewish male babies killed, fearful that the Hebrew slaves will revolt and throw off his authority.
(
Exodus 1:8-16)
Herod orders Jewish male babies killed, fearful that the Messiah will eventually lead a revolt that will threaten his authority.
(
Matthew 2:1-16)
Pharoah is powerless to take the life of God's chosen, Moses, who will eventually free his people from Egyptian bondage.
(
Exodus 1:17)
Herod is powerless to take the life of God's chosen, Jesus, who will eventually free His people from the bondage of sin.
(
Matthew 2:19-21)
Moses, the son of oppressed people, grows up as royalty in Egypt.
(
Exodus 2:1-10)
Jesus, the King of Kings, grows up as the son of oppressed people, spending part of His youth in Egypt.
(Matthew, Luke)
Moses works as a shepherd before leading the Israelites out of Egypt.
(
Exodus 3:1)
Jesus describes Himself as "the good shepherd."
(
John 10:11,14)
Moses is called upon to challenge the authority of Pharaoh, who refuses to recognize the power of God despite many miracles.
(Exodus 5-11)
Jesus is called upon to challenge the religious authorities of His day, most of whom refuse to recognize the power of God despite many miracles.
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John 10:32)
God spares the firstborn sons of Israel because of the blood of the lamb painted on their doorposts and lintels.
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Exodus 12:12-13)
God does not spare His own Son, but sends Him to shed His blood on a wooden cross.
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John 3:16, Ephesians 1:7, Colossians 1:14, Hebrews 9:12)
The death of Egypt's sons causes Pharaoh to release his hold on God's chosen people.
(
Exodus 12:29-31)
Jesus' death causes sin to lose its grip on those who receive His sacrifice as the unique atonement for sin.
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Romans 8:2)
God commands the children of Israel to remember how He redeemed them from slavery by celebrating Passover.
(
Exodus 12:14-21)
As Jesus celebrated Passover with His disciples, He instructed them to use the unleavened bread and the cup as reminders of the redemption He was about to accomplish.
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Luke 22:19)
I got a question who were fisrt one to spread islam?
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Quote JOUBERAR Replybullet Posted: 04 July 2009 at 3:27pm

To the truth. The parralels between Moses and Jesus.

(1) Both Moses and Jesus were born when Israel was under bondage (Moses in Egypt Ex.1:8,10, and Jesus during Israel's Roman bondage. Mt.2:1,Lk.2:1-2)

(2) Edicts were issued by the gentile powers of both Pharaoh and Herod for their death at birth. (Ex.2:3, Mt.2:15)

(3) Both were miraculously delivered from death during their infancy from their enemies of Israel (Ex.2:3, Lk.2:7;Mt 2:14,15)  and were preserved in childhood.

(4) Both had been born and found in unusual places. Moses was found in the water floating in a basket of bulrushes (Ex.2:3) Jesus in a manger (cave) wrapped in burial cloths (Lk.2:7) (5) Both Moses and Jesus were protected and preserved by the faith of their parent. Moses was hidden by faith (Ex.2:2-3 and Heb.11:23) Jesus’ life was preserved by his parents obeying the message in a dream. (Mt.2:13-14)

(6) Both Moses and Jesus stayed safely in Egypt for a time. Moses (Ex.2:10) Jesus dwelt safely in Egypt (Mt.2:14-15)

(7) Both had their brethren and family speak against them. Moses had Mariam and Aaron speak against him taking a Cushite wife (Numb.12:1) Jesus had his family criticize and reject him (Mt.13:54-57, Jn.7:3)

(8) Both Moses and Jesus were reared in the house that was not their natural parents. (Moses in the house of Pharaoh (Ex.2:10) Jesus by Mary the mother of his humanity and his stepfather Joseph.

(9) Both predicted Israel's history (Deut.28:15-28; Mt.23:34,24:1,2,8,34)

(10) Both spoke out against Israel's enemies and persecutors. (Deut.23:3-4; Mt.25:41-48)

(11) Both were considered a snare to Israel (Ex10:7; 1Pt.2:8=Isa.8:14)

(12) Both cleansed leprosy. From Moses’ time no one that was Jewish was cleansed until Jesus came (Numb.12:10-16, Mk.1:40-41). This is a very significant factor that proves Jesus was the prophet Moses spoke of, since no other cured one of the brethren of this disease from Moses' time.

(13) Both were used of God to feed Israel miraculously, Moses with manna in the wilderness (Ex.16:14-17) Jesus with the five loaves and two fish fed four and five thousand two times. (Mt.14:19-21) Jesus also called himself the true manna that came from heaven in Jn.6, comparing himself to the miracle that sustained Israel alive through the desert.

(14) Both had the forces of nature obey them (the seas) Moses (Ex.14:21-22) Jesus (Mt.8:26-27)

(15) Each had seventy helpers Moses (Num.11:16-17) Jesus ( Lk.10:1). 

(16) Both fasted 40 days and 40 nights in the wilderness to bring a covenant to Israel. Moses on the top of Mt. Sinai (Ex.24:18, 34:28, Deut.9:9) Jesus in the desert as the Son of God (Mt.4:2)

(17) Both had a face to face relationship with God unlike any other person. Moses (Ex.33:9-11, Deut.34:10; Numb.12:7-8) Jesus was with God=face to face from eternity (Jn.1:1,18)

(18) God spoke audibly and directly from heaven to both Moses and Jesus. Moses (Ex.20:22, 24:12-16) Jesus (Mt.3:17; Jn.12:28)

(19) Both were God's spokesman to and for the people. Moses (Ex.9:35; Numb.12:2) Jesus (Heb.1:1-3). They Spoke as oracles of God (Moses Deut. 18:18) Jesus (Jn.14:24, 5:24)

(20) Both Moses and Jesus reflected and shown the glory of God. Moses reflected his glory temporarily. (Ex.34:29-35; 2 Cor.3:7-14) Jesus at the transfiguration, his face shown brighter than the sun revealing his true nature (Mt.17:2; Jn.1:14)

(21) Both were known for their humility and meekness as God's servants. Moses (Numb.12:3) Jesus (Mt.11:29; Phil.2:3-8)

(22) Both contended with masters of deception and darkness Moses with Pharaohs magicians (Ex 7:11, 1 Tim.3:8) Jesus with the Devil (Mt 4:1).

(23) Both prayed for the people intercessory prayers and were willing to bear the consequences of the people's sins. Moses asked to be blotted out of the book of life for the peoples sake (Ex.32:32-33).  Jesus asked for them to be kept from falling away (Jn. 17:9-17).  Jesus asked for those to be forgiven while he bore the consequences in their stead. (Lk.23:34, 2 Cor.5:19, 1 Pt.2:21-24, Isa.53:8)

(25) Both Moses and Jesus were rejected by their own brethren for a time and accepted by the gentiles. Moses (Ex.2:14-22, 32:1) Jesus was rejected by his own people and received by another who were not his own. (Isa.53:3; Mt.12:21; Mk.6:4; Lk.20:9-17, Rom.11:20)

(26) Both Moses and Jesus established a priesthood. Moses began the Aaronic priesthood which was temporary under the law (Lev.9; Numb.8:20-26; Heb.9:19-22). Jesus established a eternal priesthood under the new covenant of grace which He alone functions as the high priest forever. (Heb.7:17,19,23,25-28; 9:12)

(27) Both sprinkled the blood of the covenant on the altar and the people. Moses (Ex.24:7-8; Lev.8:19) Jesus (Heb.9,12:24; 1Pt.1:2)

(28) Both were sent by God to reveal His name, person and law to the people. To Moses God said to tell them I Am sent you. (Ex.3:13-14) Jesus said God sent him as his exact representative revealing his name (I Am) and nature to the people. (Jn.8:42; 17:6,11-12; Col.2:9; Heb.1:3)

(29) Both were involved in giving the covenant to the people Jn.1:17 the law came through Moses but grace and truth came through Jesus Christ.” At the feast of Pentecost Moses gave the law. At the feast (Pentecost) in the new covenant Jesus gave the Holy Spirit (Acts 2).

(30) Both brought deliverance to the Jewish people. Those who followed Moses out of the bondage of slavery to Egypt. (Ex.3:7-8,10;12:31-33,42) Jesus brought people out of a greater bondage, slavery to sin. (Rom.3:24-25,6:6-7,8:2-4; Eph.1:7;Heb.9:26) 

(31) Both had an angel guard their graves. After Moses died Michael the Arch-angel guarded his body. (Jude 9) And when Jesus rose an angel guarded his tomb. (Mt.26:2-6)

(32) Both re-appeared after they died, Moses ( Mt 17:3 with Jesus before his death) Jesus (Acts 1:3)

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Quote Nur_Ilahi Replybullet Posted: 05 July 2009 at 5:54am
"I got a question who were fisrt one to spread islam?"

The answer is Adam, the first man on earth. Islam means - Submission to the will of Allah.  If you consider yourself the son of Adam, you are also supposed to submit to the will of Allah - The Creator of the whole universe.

Unless of course you are not.
Ilahi Anta Maksudi, Wa Redhaka Mathlubi - Oh Allah, You are my destination, Your Pleasure is my Intention.
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