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Originally posted by Matt Browne

We should not confuse global warming with the issue of man-made climate change. There is no doubt about global warming and this isn't rocket science. This requires regular reading of thousands of thermometers all around the world.

Actually, because the theory is adhoc rubbish, the name is being changed to climate change (when it is neccesary and convenient) to explaine the cooling periods within the "heating up" period, and due to the fact that the enviro-lemmings are usually political hacks, it's nearly impossible to distiniguish good science from much of the pseudo science that has entered into the debate. Too many uncertainties to give the UN the "ok" to control and redistribute wealth from hard working people to thrid world dictators. Sorry my friend, the topic has become so far from a real scientific debate that credibility has become a real issue, and I am not ready to sacrifice and suffer to enrich Goldmans Sach. Obama, or the Chicago CCX. Gore really needs to control his carbon footprint before telling me how to live. I was born at night, but not last night my friend.

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Originally posted by Matt Browne

Yes, most of what comes out of the climate change denial movement is pseudo science funded by the fossil fuel lobby.

Yea......Al Gore, James Hansen....no problems with these nut jobs that are at the forefront of your new religion. Funny, so the climatologists who can disagree with your wonderful theology are by default "funded by oil lobby"....yea. And given that the US government is now in the habit of funding this liberal wet dream, I would say that at least there is money avaliable for opposing views (given your sweeping generalization is actually true). I hear no complaints from you that climate study funding is gladly given out to those "true believers".

We need to apply the precautionary principle and listen to the majority of reputable climatologists (many of them also live in Europe and Asia).

Yea, we only need to listen to experts who are funded by the UN and other governments. Lets ignore that other experts who have shown your religion to be a fraud. Lets ignore all of the data tampering from your experts. Lets embrace precautionary principles with policies that wreck thriving economies with intellectually bankrupt notions like "cap and trade". Your priests will enrich themselves with your labor and you will thank them for it.

Everything else is wishful thinking and reckless endangerment. We only got this one planet. Blowing 1 million years worth of photosynthesis into our atmosphere every single year is lunacy. We need a steady transfer into the widespread use of green technologies, a process which will take 20-30 years. But we have to act now.

Yea....lets wreck our technology on this ecolemming wet dream...we can get rainbow powerd unicorns, magic beans, and fairies to drive our new energy! It is all in our hands now. Lets destroy western civilization on weak theories, unproven theories, on climate change and its cause. Now we are using our heads.

There are huge opportunity for the Arab countries in Northern Africa by the way, see

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desertec

as one good example.

Maybe they can supply the rainbows to power the unicorns....

A feeling of discouragement when you slip up is a sure sign that you put your faith in deeds. -Ibn 'Ata'llah
http://www.sunnipath.com
http://www.sunniforum.com/forum/
http://www.pt-go.com/

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The climate change denial movement is doomed to fail. We should not waste too much time dealing with them. We should use our time to innovate.

A religion that's intolerant of other religions can't be the world's best religion --Abdel Samad
Great minds discuss ideas. Average minds discuss events. Small minds discuss people--Eleanor Roosevelt

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Matt Browne Male Christian Senior Member Joined: 19 April 2010 Location: Germany Online Status: Offline Posts: 755	Posted: 16 May 2010 at 9:53am
	We should not confuse global warming with the issue of man-made climate change. There is no doubt about global warming and this isn't rocket science. This requires regular reading of thousands of thermometers all around the world.
	A religion that's intolerant of other religions can't be the world's best religion --Abdel Samad Great minds discuss ideas. Average minds discuss events. Small minds discuss people--Eleanor Roosevelt
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Andalus Moderator Group Joined: 12 October 2005 Location: United States Online Status: Offline Posts: 1187	Posted: 16 May 2010 at 10:55am
	*Originally posted by Matt Browne* We should not confuse global warming with the issue of man-made climate change. There is no doubt about global warming and this isn't rocket science. This requires regular reading of thousands of thermometers all around the world. Actually, because the theory is adhoc rubbish, the name is being changed to climate change (when it is neccesary and convenient) to explaine the cooling periods within the "heating up" period, and due to the fact that the enviro-lemmings are usually political hacks, it's nearly impossible to distiniguish good science from much of the pseudo science that has entered into the debate. Too many uncertainties to give the UN the "ok" to control and redistribute wealth from hard working people to thrid world dictators. Sorry my friend, the topic has become so far from a real scientific debate that credibility has become a real issue, and I am not ready to sacrifice and suffer to enrich Goldmans Sach. Obama, or the Chicago CCX. Gore really needs to control his carbon footprint before telling me how to live. I was born at night, but not last night my friend. kindest regards
	A feeling of discouragement when you slip up is a sure sign that you put your faith in deeds. -Ibn 'Ata'llah http://www.sunnipath.com http://www.sunniforum.com/forum/ http://www.pt-go.com/
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Matt Browne Male Christian Senior Member Joined: 19 April 2010 Location: Germany Online Status: Offline Posts: 755	Posted: 23 May 2010 at 4:12am
	Yes, most of what comes out of the climate change denial movement is pseudo science funded by the fossil fuel lobby. We need to apply the precautionary principle and listen to the majority of reputable climatologists (many of them also live in Europe and Asia). Everything else is wishful thinking and reckless endangerment. We only got this one planet. Blowing 1 million years worth of photosynthesis into our atmosphere every single year is lunacy. We need a steady transfer into the widespread use of green technologies, a process which will take 20-30 years. But we have to act now. There are huge opportunity for the Arab countries in Northern Africa by the way, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desertec as one good example. Edited by Matt Browne - 23 May 2010 at 4:14am
	A religion that's intolerant of other religions can't be the world's best religion --Abdel Samad Great minds discuss ideas. Average minds discuss events. Small minds discuss people--Eleanor Roosevelt
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Andalus Moderator Group Joined: 12 October 2005 Location: United States Online Status: Offline Posts: 1187	Posted: 31 May 2010 at 1:05am
	*Originally posted by Matt Browne* Yes, most of what comes out of the climate change denial movement is pseudo science funded by the fossil fuel lobby. Yea......Al Gore, James Hansen....no problems with these nut jobs that are at the forefront of your new religion. Funny, so the climatologists who can disagree with your wonderful theology are by default "funded by oil lobby"....yea. And given that the US government is now in the habit of funding this liberal wet dream, I would say that at least there is money avaliable for opposing views (given your sweeping generalization is actually true). I hear no complaints from you that climate study funding is gladly given out to those "true believers". We need to apply the precautionary principle and listen to the majority of reputable climatologists (many of them also live in Europe and Asia). Yea, we only need to listen to experts who are funded by the UN and other governments. Lets ignore that other experts who have shown your religion to be a fraud. Lets ignore all of the data tampering from your experts. Lets embrace precautionary principles with policies that wreck thriving economies with intellectually bankrupt notions like "cap and trade". Your priests will enrich themselves with your labor and you will thank them for it. Everything else is wishful thinking and reckless endangerment. We only got this one planet. Blowing 1 million years worth of photosynthesis into our atmosphere every single year is lunacy. We need a steady transfer into the widespread use of green technologies, a process which will take 20-30 years. But we have to act now. Yea....lets wreck our technology on this ecolemming wet dream...we can get rainbow powerd unicorns, magic beans, and fairies to drive our new energy! It is all in our hands now. Lets destroy western civilization on weak theories, unproven theories, on climate change and its cause. Now we are using our heads. There are huge opportunity for the Arab countries in Northern Africa by the way, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desertec as one good example. Maybe they can supply the rainbows to power the unicorns....
	A feeling of discouragement when you slip up is a sure sign that you put your faith in deeds. -Ibn 'Ata'llah http://www.sunnipath.com http://www.sunniforum.com/forum/ http://www.pt-go.com/
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casey101 Starter Joined: 30 December 2010 Location: United States Online Status: Offline Posts: 1	Posted: 30 December 2010 at 7:38pm
	When one considers the vast amount of Greenhouse gas that released every minute I, for one, find it hard to believe that we aren't making a change. This becomes increasingly believable when taken in the context of the percentage of greenhouse gas currently saturating in the air we breathe. (<1%). So, for every one part CO2, we have to have (at least) 78 parts of Nitrogen and 21 parts Oxygen JUST to keep it at current levels. That's just my two cents... Not even considering Peak oil...
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Matt Browne Male Christian Senior Member Joined: 19 April 2010 Location: Germany Online Status: Offline Posts: 755	Posted: 28 March 2011 at 8:34am
	The climate change denial movement is doomed to fail. We should not waste too much time dealing with them. We should use our time to innovate.
	A religion that's intolerant of other religions can't be the world's best religion --Abdel Samad Great minds discuss ideas. Average minds discuss events. Small minds discuss people--Eleanor Roosevelt
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