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Quote hat2010 Replybullet Posted: 29 December 2008 at 7:14pm
Moroccans: If there is anyone else living in or around Fes (but just haven't posted yet!) there is going to be a protest at Florence Square, Ville Nouvelle, Fes today (dec 30) at 5:30 - bring your voice, cameras and brace yourself...
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Quote Hyposonic Replybullet Posted: 29 December 2008 at 7:58pm

Duende,

thank you for the suggestion of writing to your local congressman. Unfortunately where I live that is not possible but if you can give me a link where I could perhaps email a lengthy opinionated response to this horrific situation it would be helpful, thanks!
 
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You constantly supporting anything non-Muslim and that is apparent. Remember Israel is a country highly supported by the United states both spiritually, politically, and militarily. the Israeli army is a broadword trying to surgicially remove what it considers a "terrorist organization." the only people it truly hurts are those innocent people such as the farmers, the impoverished and those who are apolitical. Regardless of your stance on Hamas it is best you see those who are truly suffering.
 
This is not to say that Hamas is entirely innocent because violence begest violence but you have to take into consideration the population ratio. The Palestinian infrastructure to me from news reports seems to be clustered. So sending a missile to destroy a military target may infact damage and ultimately kill a non-target [such as men, women and children].
 
 
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Quote Caprice88 Replybullet Posted: 30 December 2008 at 2:06am
Originally posted by JihadX

This is sad. Everone i speak to about this says that "something should be done against the Yahoudis". Does anyone agree with that statement?
 
 
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Quote Caprice88 Replybullet Posted: 30 December 2008 at 2:16am
Originally posted by Saladin

A Gazan man said on camera - We dont want anyone's help, especially that despicable DOG of Egypt, Mubarak's - Unqoute. Thats insulting dogs.

Tzipi says Hamas came to power through a coup and are now holding Gazans hostage. Also that Israel's attacking only Hamas members and sites - Apparently, babies and children were also members of Hamas.
 
Did you guys hear about the aid boat coming from Cyprus, how the jews stop it and even shot fires at the boat. Oh come on! will somebody shoot them back for god sake. There evilness reached so high that they want the people of Gaza to die GRISLYShocked all in ones. They are UNFORGIVABLE nation for sure.Dead
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Quote believer Replybullet Posted: 30 December 2008 at 6:59am
http://www.channel4.com/news/articles/world/egypt+refuses+gaza+crossing+move/2894917
 
Last Modified: 30 Dec 2008
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Egypt's president has hit back against critics throughout the region and said he would not fully open the crossing into the Gaza Strip unless the Palestinian Authority was in control of the border to preserve unity.

Egypt has come under heavy criticism in the Arab world for its refusal over the past year to open the Rafah crossing, which has helped complete an Israeli blockade of the territory.

Israeli Foreign Minister Tzipi Livni also visited Egypt just before the assault, leading many to accuse Egypt of giving a green light to the attack.

These news feeds are provided by an independent third party and Channel 4 is not responsible or liable to you for the same.
 
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In Barzilai's underground children's ward, sick Gazans lay alongside sick Israelis as a clown hopped around trying to coax smiles. Lobel said that his facility had close ties with Gaza's Shifa hospital, and accepted many of its patients who need treatment the Gazan hospital cannot provide. He said it wasn't uncommon to have a colleague in Gaza call him for assistance even as rockets rained down on Ashkelon.

"It might seem completely absurd," Lobel said. "But we have the privilege to be doctors. Our medical ethics do not distinguish between patients. We treat whoever needs to be treated."

A Gaza woman, whose two-month-old granddaughter was being treated for an unidentified ailment, wept when asked how she was coping. She said she was fortunate her granddaughter was getting the best medical treatment but was worried about her daughter and other grandchildren in Gaza City. She said some of their neighbors were among the more than 280 people killed in the Israeli airstrikes.

"I am very sad and hurt," she said, in Arabic. "We want peace, not war."

She refused to identify herself or have her picture taken, for fear of retribution if her presence in Israel was discovered in Gaza.

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Quote peacemaker Replybullet Posted: 30 December 2008 at 10:35am
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ONCE again Israel seeks to defend the indefensible in an attempt to cloak its crimes against humanity with the mantle of self-defense. As its American-manufactured bombs and missiles pound a virtually unarmed starving population, Israeli officials appear on just about every satellite news network singing from the same propagandist song sheet.

It’s all the fault of the terror organization Hamas which refused to renew the cease-fire, “ ‘We have a duty to protect our citizens in the south from rockets and mortars”. I’ve heard several saying “When we pulled out of Gaza we hoped Palestinians would forge a functioning territory but instead they chose terror”. In answer to questions concerning so many civilian deaths, they all insist that Israel is carrying out surgical strikes against “terror infrastructure” or they will excuse Israel’s bombardment of homes with “civilians are hiding launchers in their houses”.

Israel’s former ambassador to the United Nations Dan Gillerman seemed nonplussed when one interviewer asked him whether the seven dead UNWRA student employees were launching missiles too.

Predictably, these merchants of untruths are given free rein to spin on most Western networks and disproportionate airtime as opposed to pro-Palestinian commentators.

Let’s dissect these fabricated Israeli arguments.

First, whatever one thinks of Hamas and it ideology, it was elected to office in free and internationally-monitored elections that were forced upon the Palestinian people by Washington as part of the Bush administration’s quest to democratize the Middle East.

Then, after congratulating the Palestinians on their new democracy, the US-led international community promptly condemned the new leadership as terrorist and threw its support behind Fatah, which was “ordered” to turn against Hamas. This divisive strategy worked to the extent Hamas was driven to Gaza where it has since struggled against all odds to provide its citizens with the barest minimum required to sustain life.

Those representatives of Israel who say since their country’s pullout there was no obstacle to Gaza becoming a flourishing enclave are disingenuous when Gaza’s borders are sealed and the people have no control over their coastline or airspace.

Even when the Fatah-controlled Palestinian National Authority managed Gaza, Israel did everything it could to destroy infrastructure including a $75 million airport built with donations from the EU, Japan and Morocco. And during this recent round of attacks, ministries, government buildings, police stations and a police academy were bombed which does not support Israel’s supposed wish to see a functioning Gaza.

While it is true that Hamas refused to extend the cease-fire, what incentive does it have to do so while Israel is waging a war of attrition on the people in its care? It seems residents of Gaza must choose to die slowly from starvation and lack of medicines or at the hands of the Israeli war machine. Secondly, Israel is, indeed, duty-bound to protect its citizens but just look at the numbers. Very few crude home-made rockets have resulted in casualties. I believe only one Israeli has died during this current onslaught that has robbed the lives of over 320 Palestinians and wounded up to 1,000; not including those still buried beneath rubble. Once more, Israel’s response has been disproportionate just as it was in 2006 when it slaughtered 1,200 Lebanese civilians in answer to Hezbollah’s kidnapping of IDF soldiers.

Third, when it comes to Gaza, said to be one of the most densely-populated areas of the world, there is no such thing as a surgical strike. Moreover, over half of Gaza’s population are children under 18. Even the smartest smart bombs could not cherry-pick between resistance fighters and innocents in such a packed environment. The Israeli government knows this and doesn’t care a jot, which translates to willful collective punishment, illegal under the Fourth Geneva Convention.

But like its Washington master (or is it the other way around?) Israel is not constrained by international law or the Geneva Conventions that also require an occupying nation to provide for the well being of people under its occupation and to respect their dignity. As the willful killing continues, Israel merrily ignores pleas from France, Russia, the UN, the EU and Britain to end the violence. Why should it do otherwise when it has proved time and time again that it is a law unto itself and immune from international punishment?

Unsurprisingly, the only message from the US to Israel is “try to avoid civilian casualties”, which is nothing more than lip service to international humanitarian sensitivities. In effect, the Bush administration has blessed this, by many accounts, long planned operation, cynically timed to begin during a political vacuum in Washington and close to upcoming elections when candidates need to prove they’re tough to win votes. Tragically, there may be much worse to come. Israeli government officials including Defense Minister Ehud Barak has warned the offensive could be widened as tanks line up on the border with Gaza and 6,500 IDF reservists are on standby.

Tomorrow, the Arab League is holding an emergency summit of foreign ministers to discuss the crisis. If only they will decide to do more than issue a joint statement of condemnation this time. Together they have so much clout. Now is the time for all Arab countries to gather together as one nation to say “enough is enough” before the streets of Gaza run with the blood of their desperate brothers and sisters. As the West closes its eyes and ears to Palestinian cries for help Arab leaders should heed the outraged voices on their own streets and act. Finally, the governments of Egypt and Jordan should do some soul-searching. Should they continue with peace agreements made in all good faith with a selfish, cruel state bent on destroying a people for its own ends?

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