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Posted: 16 January 2009 at 5:01am

As Salamu Alaikum

Masha Allah we have some order now Alhamdulillah.

When Ibrahim AS, was thrown in fire, what were his words ?

I think the question is wrong somewhat when he was thrown in the fire Allah Ta'ala said: O Fire be you coolness and safety for Ibrahim.

Or maybe you need to rephrase the question.

Friendship the object of this thread is not an in-depth study of Islam but a quick way to learn some important basics of our deen, as such, Chrysalis answer to the last question was correct and concise. Think of us as children taking baby steps. Insha Allah you do understand what I mean.

I may not be as knowledgeable as you are but I am truly confused by your reply.

So is there a beast or no beast as a sign of Qiyamah and what is the object that you are talking about.

I would advise you to start another thread where members who wish to discuss these questions in detail can participate.

You can post a link here.

Jazakallahu Khairan to everyone who are taking the time to participate and keep this thread alive.

Wa Alaikum salam

Edited by Alwardah - 16 January 2009 at 5:06am

“Verily your Lord is quick in punishment; yet He is indeed Oft-Forgiving Most Merciful (Surah Al-An’am 6:165)
"Indeed, we belong to Allah and to Him is our return" (Surah Baqarah 2: 155)

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Posted: 16 January 2009 at 8:55am

Next Q pl . . . :)

"O Lord, forgive me, my parents and Muslims in the Hereafter. O Lord, show mercy on them as they showed mercy to me when I was young."

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Posted: 16 January 2009 at 4:04pm

Assalamu alaikum.

There are two answers to your question: one a hadith and the other Qur'an, "I am going to my Lord, He will protect me or Guide me" The other was that angel asked him if he wants his protection, He said No! Which one are you refering to?
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Posted: 16 January 2009 at 4:27pm

Assalamu alaikum.

Alwarda posted: Friendship the object of this thread is not an in-depth study of Islam but a quick way to learn some important basics of our deen, as such, Chrysalis answer to the last question was correct and concise. Think of us as children taking baby steps. Insha Allah you do understand what I mean.

Response: This forum is not visited by only you professed confused Muslims, but even those who called themselves Christians and People of the Book. Already a member of this forum accused the Muslim followers of Muhammad of not contributing on sciences, because we do not think and reflect on the Sciences of the holy Qur'an. I will not wait for them to tell me the correct interpretation of such verses. I am not cartooning Muhammad but rather honoring him and praising him by giving correct and sensible answers to Tawhid. I was polite to give you references as your teacher. A student should respect his teacher if you give me that honour. Abdullah ibn Abbas was 13 years when the holy Prophet died. If he were like you he could not have achieved the status he is respected today. He was the one who said what I wrote down. Propbably you think too much of yourself. That is ignorance in Islam.
I earlier said that I do not personally like what is discussed, because it is not the Sunna but polemics ie Ta'wil and Tafsir. It is Ta'wil and Tafsir that increased the faith, since Ta'wil and Tafsir of the Sunna is not allowed. Now, if you want to ask on the Sunna answer my answer my questions of the Friday prayer. I prefer that. You know that you will get into paradise by doing exactly what the holy Prophet did and not through Ta'wil or Tafsir.
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Posted: 16 January 2009 at 4:57pm

Assalamu alaikum:

Alwardah posted: I may not be as knowledgeable as you are but I am truly confused by your reply.

Response: A true follower of Muhammad is only proud of the knowledge of the Sunna i.e the practice of Muhammad during Ibadat. There is no excuse for one not knowing that. But as for other knowledge know that each Ayat of the Qur'an had a literal meaning (Zahir) an inner meaning (Batin), a terminal point of understanding (hadd) and a starting point of understanding (muttala). Each verse can be understood in sixty thousand ways and what then still remains unexhausted in meaning is more numerous. Each word of the Qur'an is a knowledge. There are 77,200 words or so in the Qur'an. How does Allah explains 'Daab' in the Qur'an? I am waiting for your answer.
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Posted: 16 January 2009 at 5:34pm

As Salamu Alaikum

Excuse me! Who is a teacher here ? We don't hold any student-teacher relation. We being in the folds of brotherhood of Islam share and learn whatever we know. You cannot demand respect and honour ? Did any one of us invite you saying that you are knowledgeable and correct us ? I did tell you to kindly mind your words before posting them !

Whats the Problem with Al-Daabah answer. It was very simple and clear. Is it not one of the signs of the Hour. Does a person who dies, even look at Dajjal, even sees sun rising from west ? Does he also see world destructed ? I guess you have got extra knowledge of it.

Go thru this link's last post .

http://www.islamicity.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=13878&PN=4

And i wish you to stay here only when you are not just a teacher but a student as well.

Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) said: “All the descendants of Adam are sinners, and the best of sinners are those who repent."

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Posted: 16 January 2009 at 5:45pm

When Ibrahim AS, was thrown in fire, what were his words ?

The following hadith gives us the answer

Narrated Ibn Abbas: 'Allah is sufficient for us and He Is the Best Disposer of affairs," was said by Abraham when he was thrown into the fire; and it was said by Muhammad when they (i.e. hypocrites) said, "A great army is gathering against you, therefore, fear them," but it only increased their faith and they said: "Allah is sufficient for us, and He is the Best Disposer (of affairs, for us)." (3.173)

Narrated Ibn Abbas: The last statement of Abraham when he was thrown into the fire was:--"Allah is sufficient for us and He is the Best Disposer (of affairs for us)." (3.173)

These two hadiths are from book of Bukhari.

حَسْبُنَا اللَّهُ وَنِعْمَ الْوَكِيلُ

Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) said: “All the descendants of Adam are sinners, and the best of sinners are those who repent."

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Posted: 16 January 2009 at 5:49pm

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Alwardah Senior Member Joined: 25 March 2005 Location: South Africa Online Status: Offline Posts: 980	Posted: 16 January 2009 at 5:01am
	As Salamu Alaikum Masha Allah we have some order now Alhamdulillah. When Ibrahim AS, was thrown in fire, what were his words ? I think the question is wrong somewhat when he was thrown in the fire Allah Ta'ala said: O Fire be you coolness and safety for Ibrahim. Or maybe you need to rephrase the question. Friendship the object of this thread is not an in-depth study of Islam but a quick way to learn some important basics of our deen, as such, Chrysalis answer to the last question was correct and concise. Think of us as children taking baby steps. Insha Allah you do understand what I mean. I may not be as knowledgeable as you are but I am truly confused by your reply. So is there a beast or no beast as a sign of Qiyamah and what is the object that you are talking about. I would advise you to start another thread where members who wish to discuss these questions in detail can participate. You can post a link here. Jazakallahu Khairan to everyone who are taking the time to participate and keep this thread alive. Wa Alaikum salam Edited by Alwardah - 16 January 2009 at 5:06am
	“Verily your Lord is quick in punishment; yet He is indeed Oft-Forgiving Most Merciful (Surah Al-An’am 6:165) "Indeed, we belong to Allah and to Him is our return" (Surah Baqarah 2: 155)
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Chrysalis Senior Member Joined: 25 November 2007 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2031	Posted: 16 January 2009 at 8:55am
	Next Q pl . . . :)
	"O Lord, forgive me, my parents and Muslims in the Hereafter. O Lord, show mercy on them as they showed mercy to me when I was young."
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Friendship Senior Member Joined: 24 August 2008 Online Status: Offline Posts: 876	Posted: 16 January 2009 at 4:04pm
	Assalamu alaikum. There are two answers to your question: one a hadith and the other Qur'an, "I am going to my Lord, He will protect me or Guide me" The other was that angel asked him if he wants his protection, He said No! Which one are you refering to? Friendship.
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Friendship Senior Member Joined: 24 August 2008 Online Status: Offline Posts: 876	Posted: 16 January 2009 at 4:27pm
	Assalamu alaikum. Alwarda posted: Friendship the object of this thread is not an in-depth study of Islam but a quick way to learn some important basics of our deen, as such, Chrysalis answer to the last question was correct and concise. Think of us as children taking baby steps. Insha Allah you do understand what I mean. Response: This forum is not visited by only you professed confused Muslims, but even those who called themselves Christians and People of the Book. Already a member of this forum accused the Muslim followers of Muhammad of not contributing on sciences, because we do not think and reflect on the Sciences of the holy Qur'an. I will not wait for them to tell me the correct interpretation of such verses. I am not cartooning Muhammad but rather honoring him and praising him by giving correct and sensible answers to Tawhid. I was polite to give you references as your teacher. A student should respect his teacher if you give me that honour. Abdullah ibn Abbas was 13 years when the holy Prophet died. If he were like you he could not have achieved the status he is respected today. He was the one who said what I wrote down. Propbably you think too much of yourself. That is ignorance in Islam. I earlier said that I do not personally like what is discussed, because it is not the Sunna but polemics ie Ta'wil and Tafsir. It is Ta'wil and Tafsir that increased the faith, since Ta'wil and Tafsir of the Sunna is not allowed. Now, if you want to ask on the Sunna answer my answer my questions of the Friday prayer. I prefer that. You know that you will get into paradise by doing exactly what the holy Prophet did and not through Ta'wil or Tafsir. Friendship.
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Friendship Senior Member Joined: 24 August 2008 Online Status: Offline Posts: 876	Posted: 16 January 2009 at 4:57pm
	Assalamu alaikum: Alwardah posted: I may not be as knowledgeable as you are but I am truly confused by your reply. Response: A true follower of Muhammad is only proud of the knowledge of the Sunna i.e the practice of Muhammad during Ibadat. There is no excuse for one not knowing that. But as for other knowledge know that each Ayat of the Qur'an had a literal meaning (Zahir) an inner meaning (Batin), a terminal point of understanding (hadd) and a starting point of understanding (muttala). Each verse can be understood in sixty thousand ways and what then still remains unexhausted in meaning is more numerous. Each word of the Qur'an is a knowledge. There are 77,200 words or so in the Qur'an. How does Allah explains 'Daab' in the Qur'an? I am waiting for your answer. Friendship.
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seekshidayath Female Islam Senior Member Joined: 26 March 2006 Location: India Online Status: Offline Posts: 3337	Posted: 16 January 2009 at 5:34pm
	As Salamu Alaikum Excuse me! Who is a teacher here ? We don't hold any student-teacher relation. We being in the folds of brotherhood of Islam share and learn whatever we know. You cannot demand respect and honour ? Did any one of us invite you saying that you are knowledgeable and correct us ? I did tell you to kindly mind your words before posting them ! Whats the Problem with Al-Daabah answer. It was very simple and clear. Is it not one of the signs of the Hour. Does a person who dies, even look at Dajjal, even sees sun rising from west ? Does he also see world destructed ? I guess you have got extra knowledge of it. Go thru this link's last post . http://www.islamicity.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=13878&PN=4 And i wish you to stay here only when you are not just a teacher but a student as well.
	Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) said: “All the descendants of Adam are sinners, and the best of sinners are those who repent."
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seekshidayath Female Islam Senior Member Joined: 26 March 2006 Location: India Online Status: Offline Posts: 3337	Posted: 16 January 2009 at 5:45pm
	When Ibrahim AS, was thrown in fire, what were his words ? The following hadith gives us the answer Narrated Ibn Abbas: 'Allah is sufficient for us and He Is the Best Disposer of affairs," was said by Abraham when he was thrown into the fire; and it was said by Muhammad when they (i.e. hypocrites) said, "A great army is gathering against you, therefore, fear them," but it only increased their faith and they said: "Allah is sufficient for us, and He is the Best Disposer (of affairs, for us)." (3.173) Narrated Ibn Abbas: The last statement of Abraham when he was thrown into the fire was:--"Allah is sufficient for us and He is the Best Disposer (of affairs for us)." (3.173) These two hadiths are from book of Bukhari. حَسْبُنَا اللَّهُ وَنِعْمَ الْوَكِيلُ
	Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) said: “All the descendants of Adam are sinners, and the best of sinners are those who repent."
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seekshidayath Female Islam Senior Member Joined: 26 March 2006 Location: India Online Status: Offline Posts: 3337	Posted: 16 January 2009 at 5:49pm
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