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lovesakeenah
Female Islam Senior Member
Joined: 13 June 2007 Location: South Africa Online Status: Offline Posts: 458 |
Posted: 06 January 2009 at 12:04pm |
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"I have conviction that Allah has power over everything.Verily!Allah's knowledge includes and encompasses everything".
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seekshidayath
Female Islam Senior Member
Joined: 26 March 2006 Location: India Online Status: Offline Posts: 3338 |
Posted: 06 January 2009 at 5:38pm |
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As Salamu Alaikum
Yes, Umm Hani was sister of Ali RA. I did not know that the proper name of Fatimah bint Asad {Mother of Ali RA} was Fakhitah. JazakAllah.
And regarding the answer regarding Alif laam meem ---- this was not i read, as far as i remember. Allah knows the Best. Did he leave for 734 years even after Prophet ?
Next Question { a very easy one}
Why were the residents of Madinah called Al-Ansars by Allah and His Prophet ?
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Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) said: “All the descendants of Adam are sinners, and the best of sinners are those who repent."
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Friendship
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Joined: 24 August 2008 Online Status: Offline Posts: 883 |
Posted: 07 January 2009 at 1:04am |
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Assalamu alaikum.
Seekshidayath posted: I did not know that the proper name of Fatimah bint Asad {Mother of Ali RA} was Fakhitah. JazakAllah. Response: Sorry to confuse you because I economised words: I meant the proper name of Umm Hani (the mother of happiness) is Fakhitah. 2) And regarding the answer regarding Alif laam meem ---- this was
not i read, as far as i remember. Allah knows the Best. Did he leave
for 734 years even after Prophet ?
Response: This is the problem of Muslims all over the world. We only read one or two books on Islam. Remember what Hamza bin AbdullMutallab said when he accepted Islam, "Muhammad when I hunted in the desert, I knew that Allah cannot be kept in a house!" We have to read books. Now what Huyayy meant was that since all the revelations on the mysterious letters totalled 734 years, that will be the period or life span of Muhammads teaching in the world. Therefore there is no need for one to believe in him. This showed that the abbreviated letters were known to them (in their Aramaic/Hebrew langauage). 3) Why were the residents of Madinah called Al-Ansars by Allah and His Prophet ? Response: Prophet Isa (Jesus) AS asked according to the Qur'an in chapter 3:52, "Man Ansari Ilal Lah i.e. Who will be my helpers in Allah's cause?" So the world Ansar is originally a Hebrew/Aramaic arabicised to Arabic. Now because Islam is one system, this time Muhammad did not in reality asked the Madinan tribes for help but for protection according to the two pledges of Aqaba. But it was the tribes of Aws and Khazraj who asked for help (Nasr) from Muhammad Rasulullah to come over to Madina and settle their disputes especially with the Children of Israel. So they were described as Ansar (helpers). Again Muhammad Rasulullah talked to them in their own language, so that they will not have no excuse in not understanidng him. I hope you will rememebr that Propeht Nuh (Noah) also used the world,- Fantasir- Help me O Allah! There is wisdom in Islam for those who want to believe in its inner meaning but not to argue or be arrogant. Friendship. |
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Alwardah
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Joined: 25 March 2005 Location: South Africa Online Status: Offline Posts: 980 |
Posted: 09 January 2009 at 4:35am |
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As Salamu Alaikum Jazakallahu Khairan everyone for keeping this thread moving. Brother Friendship Masha Allah, Allah Subhanahu wa Ta’ala has blessed you with useful knowledge but to make such a remark is not encouraging.
We are all students here and coming to share and learn at the same time. One can read a thousand books and still not see the true message of Islam and on the other hand a person who reads just a few books can comprehend the message without any problems.
This is the first time I read about this - what was he counting; whose kingdom it doesn’t make any sense. If he confirmed the revelation, why didn’t they accept Islam. According to the majority of the Ulema only Allah Subhanahu wa Ta'ala has knowledge about using these letters at the beginning of some Surah and it testifies to the miracle of the Qur'an. Since none of us especially in this thread are into comparative studies we should revert to our old system of questions and answers based on authentic sources and secondly to gain maximum benefit one question at a time to should asked and answered properly before another question is asked. I found it very confusing today reading this thread. Due to other commits I cannot be an active member here like I used to be, but this is a good thread and a great way to broaden our knowledge of Islam. Insha Allah both Friendship and Seeks are going a good job but somewhat haphazardly. May Allah Subhanahu wa Ta'ala reward you for your efforts and reward and bless all of us with Khair both in this world and the next Ameen! Wa Alaikum Salam Edited by Alwardah - 09 January 2009 at 4:39am |
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“Verily your Lord is quick in punishment; yet He is indeed Oft-Forgiving Most Merciful (Surah Al-An’am 6:165)
"Indeed, we belong to Allah and to Him is our return" (Surah Baqarah 2: 155) |
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Friendship
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Joined: 24 August 2008 Online Status: Offline Posts: 883 |
Posted: 09 January 2009 at 8:19am |
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Assalamu alaikum.
Alwarda posted:Allah Subhanahu wa Ta’ala has blessed you with useful knowledge but to make such a remark is not encouraging. Response: I quite agree. This knowledge is not the one that one should be proud of. The most important knowledge is the one that involves loving Muhammad above all mankind. This is only in his Sunna. It is the one that one is supposed to be praised. Islamic knowledge on Ta'wil and the life history of the holy Apostle is abundant. For example when Ali ibn Abi Talib was asked to comment on Surat Muhammad he laughted and said no one can comment on it. He said if he were to make a Tafsir of the opening chapter of the Qur'an he can make 6 donkey loads. The Sunna of Muhammad on the other hand does not need any ta'wil neither ones opinion. There are alot of Tafsir books that give Ta'wil on the letters describes as obsecure. Moreover, understand that Tafsir of the holy Qur'an apart from the Ayat Muhkamats were done by the Sahabas and their pupils. There were about 14 of them. Huyayy bin Khattaf did not accept the last revelation not because he did not understand it, but because Prophethood was transferred to the offsprings of Ishmael. They came to Madina because they read about the coming of Muhammad in the Torah and the place described fitted well with the tophography of Fadak, about 8 kilometers from the Apostles mosque. You see, there are expressions and terms that are known by particular tribe or group of people. When the word Arrahman was revealed, Abu Jahl got confused and went around Makka saying that he has now understood who was teaching Muhammad. he was Arrahman of Yamama. Now Arrahman is a more intensive form of Arrahim. This made Abu Jahl excited and confused. Please if you do not know, it does not mean that someone does not know. But your books and read! The best you can do is to ask for reference. You cannot understand Islam or its history by just reading a line or a sentence. You must read the books from cover to cover. Abdullahi bin Abbas did not know the meaning of Fatir, until he met a bedouin who told him the meaning. Umar said, "If any one wants to understand the Qur'an he should ask the bedouins". Moreove Ali said it is not understand to explain the Qur'an as they understood it. Let me tell you this interesting story: Islamic knowledge is a knowledge of respect and not arguement. Muhammad Umar Az-zamakhshari was one of th renown Tafsir scholars on Grammar. Oneday there were discussing on hadith and the Sunna. he made a comment. The forum looked at him and said, 'Zamakhshari, this not your field of speciality! Zamakhshari smiled and kept quiet. But your name donates rosary or way to knowledge. Why are you deviating from it? Friendship. |
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seekshidayath
Female Islam Senior Member
Joined: 26 March 2006 Location: India Online Status: Offline Posts: 3338 |
Posted: 09 January 2009 at 10:25pm |
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As Salamu Alaikum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu
Glad to see you sis Alwardah, Did you see how we messed up in your absence. JazakAllah for your intervention. InshaAllah, we shall move in an organised way hereafter. Wish our other members also join us soon.
Friendship you said right that knowledge is not the one we need to be proud. A good reminder for all of us. I would also like to remind that we pray Allah swt to bless us with beneficial knowledge. Knowledge that benefits us. May Allah swt guide us.
The individual letters in the beginning of some Surahs are among those things whose knowledge Allah has kept only for Himself. This was reported from Abu Bakr, `Umar, `Uthman, `Ali and Ibn Mas`ud.
The wisdom behind mentioning these letters in the beginning of the Surahs, regardless of the exact meanings of these letters, is that they testify to the miracle of the Qur'an. Indeed, the servants are unable to produce something like the Qur'an, although it is comprised of the same letters with which they speak to each other. This shud be enough for us. Every Surah that begins with these letters demonstrates the Qur'an's miracle and magnificence, and this fact is known by those well-versed in such matters. Let us read the translation of an ayah of surah Al-Imran as a reminder " It is He Who has sent down to you the Book. In it are verses that are entirely clear, they are the foundations of the Book; and others not entirely clear. So as for those in whose hearts there is a deviation (from the truth) they follow (only) that which is not entirely clear thereof, seeking Al-Fitnah, and seeking its Ta'wil, but none knows its Ta'wil except Allah. And those who are firmly grounded in knowledge say: "We believe in it; all of it is from our Lord.'' And none receive admonition except men of understanding" So i feel can only say "We believe in it, all of it is from Lord". When those great sahabas like Abu Bakr, Umar , Uthman and Ali {RA}, also agreed do it. --- As far as i know, sis Alwardah is the one who is very much blessed with knowledge that benefits us. Allah swt knows the best. But kindly check on your words before posting hereafter, that you if you intend good then learn a way to advice. We all do possess this basic knowledge that never shud we consider someone inferior . May Allah swt save us from such thoughts.I don't think any of us heard of Ali RA. commenting so as posted by you, when asked of Surah Muhammad. The books you give us to refer, are far from our reach, Either you share its scanned copy, or provide us that link which gives us authentic .
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seekshidayath
Female Islam Senior Member
Joined: 26 March 2006 Location: India Online Status: Offline Posts: 3338 |
Posted: 09 January 2009 at 10:42pm |
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NEXT QUESTION
Where is Bayt-Al - Ma'mur ? {Very easy one}
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Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) said: “All the descendants of Adam are sinners, and the best of sinners are those who repent."
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Chrysalis
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Joined: 25 November 2007 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2031 |
Posted: 10 January 2009 at 1:12am |
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On the 7th Heaven - Prophet Muhammad (sws) saw it during Mairaj. Bait means house, but I donno what Ma'mur means, so "House of ??? "
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"O Lord, forgive me, my parents and Muslims in the Hereafter. O Lord, show mercy on them as they showed mercy to me when I was young."
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