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seekshidayath
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Joined: 26 March 2006 Location: India Online Status: Offline Posts: 3337 |
 Posted: 24 December 2008 at 5:26pm |
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As Salamu Alaikum,
Amongst those sons, Abdul Muttalib's beloved was Abdullah, father of Prophet Muhammad {Sallal lahu alayhi wa sallam}. But i do not know what he intended and cud not do. Hope our other members answer.
By the way "friendship", what is that source you are referring to - 'Martin Lings' ???
Sister Sakeenah, its many days you are inactive !
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Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) said: “All the descendants of Adam are sinners, and the best of sinners are those who repent."
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Chrysalis
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Joined: 25 November 2007 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2031 |
Posted: 25 December 2008 at 6:57am |
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I know the answer to that one!!! If I remember correctly that is . . .
I *think* he intended on giving up his son in Allah's path, but he could not do so, because he loved him immensly, so he sacrificed a 100 camels instead. I think Diviniation Arrows were also involved in this story, and they had to keep drawing them untill finally the arrows pointed to a 100 camels in return for Abdullah's life. . . .
I remember hearing this story when I was a kid . . . very vaguely . . . so correct me if I'm wrong.
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"O Lord, forgive me, my parents and Muslims in the Hereafter. O Lord, show mercy on them as they showed mercy to me when I was young."
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Friendship
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Joined: 24 August 2008 Online Status: Online Posts: 875 |
Posted: 25 December 2008 at 10:18am |
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Assalamu alaikum.
Yes, both Seekshidayath and chrysalis were correct. In addition, his mother Fatimah was from the famous Banu Makhzum clan. Because of their then influence it became impossible for Shaybah to sacrifice Abdallah. Another question, but only for those who study the Bible and the Qur'an: What battle did the Chidren of Israel fight bearing the same lesson that resembled the battle of Badr and Uhud?: Can you give the ratio of the fighting men? Friendship. |
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Friendship
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Posted: 25 December 2008 at 10:23am |
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Assalamu alaikum.
Seekshidayath asked: By the way "friendship", what is that source you are referring to - 'Martin Lings' ??? Response: Martin Lings authored "Muhammad his life based on the earliest source". I do not know whether he accepted the final Message or not. Friendship. |
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seekshidayath
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Joined: 26 March 2006 Location: India Online Status: Offline Posts: 3337 |
Posted: 27 December 2008 at 11:56pm |
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Another question, but only for those who study the Bible and the Qur'an: What battle did the Chidren of Israel fight bearing the same lesson that resembled the battle of Badr and Uhud?: Can you give the ratio of the fighting men?
Cannot guess. What i know is the companions of Prophet {Pbuh} said, O Messenger of God! Proceed as God has commanded you to. We are with you wherever you go, even as far as Bark al-Ghimad. We shall not say as the Children of Israel said to Moses: ‘Go forth, you and your Lord, and fight, We shall remain here sitting!’ We rather say: ‘Go forth, you and your Lord, and fight, and we shall fight on your side as long as the eyelid of any one of us keeps moving.’. And they were 1000 and we were 330. This is all i know.
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seekshidayath
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Posted: 27 December 2008 at 11:59pm |
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Originally posted by Friendship
Response: Martin Lings authored "Muhammad his life based on the earliest source". I do not know whether he accepted the final Message or not. Friendship. Do you think a person, if disbelieved, holds that much of love and respect for our Prophet, as a believer holds. Such books can only for reference but not for gaining knowledge. That is my opinion.
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Friendship
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Posted: 28 December 2008 at 3:00am |
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Assalamu alaikum.
Seekshidayah posted: O Messenger of God! Proceed as God has commanded you to. We are with you wherever you go, even as far as Bark al-Ghimad. We shall not say as the Children of Israel said to Moses: ‘Go forth, you and your Lord, and fight, We shall remain here sitting!’ We rather say: ‘Go forth, you and your Lord, and fight, and we shall fight on your side as long as the eyelid of any one of us keeps moving.’. Response: You are correct. But this was when Prophet Musa (AS) commanded his people to march to canaan after he received the report of the 12 men he sent to spy the land. No fight actually took place. 11) And they were 1000 and we were 330. Response: You are correct. But this was in the battle Prophet Dawud (AS) fought Goliath the giant. In both battles the lesson was the triumph of Faith against idolatory and arrogance. This was also what happened at the battle of badr. The battle of Ai fouhgt by Prophet Joshua (Yusha'u) AS resembled the battle of Uhud, because in both battles the Muslims were defeated because of their disobedience. In the battle of Ai, one soldier broke Israeli's covenant with the Lord. It the case of the battle of Uhud, it was Umar the commander of the 50 archers who made a Ta'wil of the command of Muhammad Rasulullah thereby disobeying his expressed and implicit command. Prophet Joshua had 3,000 troops defeated by about 600; the opposite of that in the battle of Uhud. I will leave you to think carefully of what Islam is. It is good always not to commit yourself to what you do not know. Friendship. |
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Friendship
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Joined: 24 August 2008 Online Status: Online Posts: 875 |
Posted: 28 December 2008 at 3:16am |
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Assalamu alaikum.
Seekshidayath posted: Do you think a person, if disbelieved, holds that much of love and respect for our Prophet, as a believer holds. Such books can only for reference but not for gaining knowledge. That is my opinion. Response: The case is not as you think. There are some books on the life of Muhammad before he was appointed as a Messenger. Yes in such books you find them describing him as camel driver, an orphan, very poor, and a confused person. But they never described him as a dishonest man. The more people criticized Muhammad Rasulullah, the more I love and honor him. Let us remember that whatever one says about Muhammad, we have the yardstick to measure his saying- the holy Qur'an. They often misinterpret the reason behind the battle of Badr. Apart from these, so far I have not read anything worse than the writing of those Muslims or those hiding under the cover of Muslims distorting the life of Muhammad and his Sunna. I am sure you know what I mean. Martin Lings is a very good book and if you can afford buy it and keep it in your library. Which book do you have on the life history of Muhammad? Friendship |
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