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Quote PattyaMainer Replybullet Posted: 13 November 2008 at 3:47pm
I don't feel like I'm at the bottom of the social status system, Israfil.  I feel equal to every other human being.  I DO NOT feel superior, just equal, because that's how God created us.  If some people look at me and think "inferior", well that's their problem.  I refuse to allow anyone make me think less of myself. 
 
As far as StarWish goes.....why would women want to survive without men?  What is your problem with men?  I can guarantee you that women won't survive for long without men.  No siree!  Not enough women would have your mindset to want all men done away with, so that lesbians could be artificially impregnated from frozen sperm....and eventually even that storage would be depleted.  I am assuming your friend (the scientist) is a female too. 
 
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Quote Fivestar Replybullet Posted: 09 January 2009 at 10:28pm
Originally posted by StarWish624

Before this, they are female, as the "X" chromosome is 3 to 1( XX/XY), over the "Y" in a male.

You're such a frikin ignorant!

The mother has XX, and passes one of them on to her oocyte (egg cells). In this case it's a 100% sure it's gonna be a X.
The father has XY, and he too passes one of them on to his spermatocyte... Here it's 50/50 whether the spermatocyte will contain an X or Y (meaning that males decide the sex of their offspring).

The 1 (SINGLE) X from the oocyte then splices with the X or Y from the spermatocyte to create the zygote... Now the Zygote will either be male or female, even though they will undergo exactly the same procedures for the first few weeks. But the sex of the fetus was decided even before the spermatocyte entered the oocyte - it was destiny, you might say.

Now even though this doesn't explain nipples... Well nipples are "created" long after the first few different changes between male and female fetuses begin, so there's really no explanation for their being present, other then they are a useless relic from the obsolete females.

And no, humans probably WON'T develop BACK into 1 sex... Actually more likely to develop into MORE sexes (1 species of fungi has over 200 sexes, now THAT'S what I call a tough dating scene ^^)
Now, one of the reasons for deteriorating sperm quality in men, is our worsened enviroments... Even seat heating in your car is "killing your troopers".

Now back to you StarWish... If you EVER speak on a biological matter without doing research first (NO! Asking 1 friend does NOT count - If he's a moron then you become one too!)
- else I'm gonna have to beat you down with a old peanut cracker
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Quote PattyaMainer Replybullet Posted: 11 January 2009 at 7:40am
Originally posted by Fivestar

Originally posted by StarWish624

Before this, they are female, as the "X" chromosome is 3 to 1( XX/XY), over the "Y" in a male.

You're such a frikin ignorant!

The mother has XX, and passes one of them on to her oocyte (egg cells). In this case it's a 100% sure it's gonna be a X.
The father has XY, and he too passes one of them on to his spermatocyte... Here it's 50/50 whether the spermatocyte will contain an X or Y (meaning that males decide the sex of their offspring).

The 1 (SINGLE) X from the oocyte then splices with the X or Y from the spermatocyte to create the zygote... Now the Zygote will either be male or female, even though they will undergo exactly the same procedures for the first few weeks. But the sex of the fetus was decided even before the spermatocyte entered the oocyte - it was destiny, you might say.

Now even though this doesn't explain nipples... Well nipples are "created" long after the first few different changes between male and female fetuses begin, so there's really no explanation for their being present, other then they are a useless relic from the obsolete females.

And no, humans probably WON'T develop BACK into 1 sex... Actually more likely to develop into MORE sexes (1 species of fungi has over 200 sexes, now THAT'S what I call a tough dating scene ^^)
Now, one of the reasons for deteriorating sperm quality in men, is our worsened enviroments... Even seat heating in your car is "killing your troopers".

Now back to you StarWish... If you EVER speak on a biological matter without doing research first (NO! Asking 1 friend does NOT count - If he's a moron then you become one too!)
- else I'm gonna have to beat you down with a old peanut cracker
 
Excellent post, Fivestar!  I doubt we'll be hearing from her again. :))  Have a good day. 
 
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Quote Zaharah Replybullet Posted: 26 April 2009 at 9:48am
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Quote islamhearted Replybullet Posted: 16 October 2009 at 2:56pm
LOL although I am a male, I am going to give a bimbo comeback to a bimbo thread starting statement.

They turn into males...this is an upgrade to their original sex. This is such an upgrade that they stay like this for their whole life.

This is such a silly thread.

THREAD CLOSED!

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Quote Tsukasa Replybullet Posted: 17 March 2010 at 7:35pm
A few weeks after fertilization, the initial appearance of the human fetal genitalia is basically feminine: a pair of "urogenital folds" with a small protuberance in the middle, and the urethra behind the protuberance.

In typical fetal development, the presence of the SRY gene causes the fetal gonads to become testes; the absence of it allows the gonads to continue to develop into ovaries. Thereafter, the development of the internal reproductive organs and the external genitalia is determined by hormones produced by fetal gonads (ovaries or testes) and the cells' response to them.

If the fetus has testes, and if the testes produce testosterone, and if the cells of the genitals respond to the testosterone, the outer urogenital folds swell and fuse in the midline to produce the scrotum; the protuberance grows larger and straighter to form the penis; the inner urogenital swellings swell, wrap around the penis, and fuse in the midline to form the penile urethra.

If testosterone is not present, normal female development continues, with the development of a perineal urethra and the formation of a uterus, clitoris and vagina.

The Müllerian ducts, which are paired ducts of the embryo which empty into the cloaca, and which develop into the upper vagina, cervix, uterus and oviducts; in the male they disappear except for the vestigial vagina masculina and the appendix testis.

Because of their common origin in fetal anatomy, a number of male and female anatomical features are said to be homologous; for example, the clitoris and penis are homologous with one another, as are Skene's glands in females and the prostate gland in males.

Most of the time, the result of fetal genital development follows the stereotypical male or stereotypical female development path. However, in a small but significant minority of cases, the path of development follows an intermediate or other pathway, leading to what are called "ambiguous genitalia", one condition of those known as intersexuality.
 
So actually, the OP was correct -- he or she, wasn not st**id at all. However, the whole bit about one sex being "superior" to another is more than a bit childish. Take StarWish624 to task for that, but keep the rest!

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Quote Matt Browne Replybullet Posted: 19 April 2010 at 8:46am
After conception for quite a while all embryos look the same. For boys at some point genes from the Y chromosomes start expressing themselves. Eventually hormones take a leading role shaping the differences between male and female embryos. This process continues after birth and some changes happen during puberty. But keep in mind, men and women are not that different. 45 out of 46 chromosomes are the same. Even the differences in our brains are minor. Weight of the brain correlates with body height and we all know that small men are equally intelligent as tall men. Or women.

It's interesting to know that we all get mitochondrial DNA from our mothers only. So we could think of them as female powerhouses inside every cell of our body. But all of this has nothing do to who is better or smarter or whatever. There are certain differences between men and women, but the combination made us quite successful as a species. Otherwise there would not be 6.8 billion people on Earth.




Edited by Matt Browne - 20 April 2010 at 1:51am
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Ewww Biology. The first subject I dropped upon reaching grade 8 back then. Tongue
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