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DavidC

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Posted: 19 July 2005 at 7:35pm

This thread is winding down, AhmadJoyia. We are debating semantics in
someone else's thread.

I say let's put it away for now and pick it up again later. This subject comes
up every two weeks, so it shouldn't be too long

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Posted: 20 July 2005 at 8:10am

Oh, I see. Ok, as your wish.

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Posted: 28 July 2005 at 7:20pm

Trying to decipher the bible is like trying to decipher an M.Night Shaloman movie. They're both fictitious!

To Hell With Terrorism! (I don't believe in the "made up Hell that's in the fiction books, but rather an Island in the Cayman Islands)

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Posted: 29 July 2005 at 6:16am

The bible today is essentially the same as is the time of the Prophet
Muhummad. Several translations have been made drawn from the original
Aramaic.

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Posted: 29 July 2005 at 3:01pm

Originally posted by hazeshawn

Trying to decipher the bible is like trying to decipher an M.Night Shaloman movie. They're both fictitious!

Hi Hazeshawn,

Have you ever studied the New Testament, particularly the Gospels and what Jesus was reported to have said?

I think there is a very profound and distinct guidance in what Jesus had to say and it doesn't rely on any miracles or divinity that may be claimed on the part of "Christian" zealots.

One may discard all the claims of divinity about Jesus and still find essentially the same guidance, unaltered from it's true meaning.

Would you like to discuss and decipher the reported sayings attributed to Jesus?

To clarify my position, I am not a member of any religion and I do prefer to believe in a creative principle and principal.

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Posted: 29 July 2005 at 3:07pm

Originally posted by hazeshawn

Trying to decipher the bible is like trying to decipher an M.Night Shaloman movie. They're both fictitious!

Considering your positive assertoin that "bible" is fictitious (Gospels too?)........you are now in a position to prove your claim.........can you do this?...........otherwise it is merely an opinion.

What criterion do you use to determine what is fictitious and what is not?..........then we may apply this criterion to other texts that are claimed to not be fictitious.

Please proceed.

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Posted: 31 July 2005 at 11:07am

Originally posted by DavidC

The bible today is essentially the same as is the time of the Prophet
Muhummad. Several translations have been made drawn from the original
Aramaic.

Dear Bro DavidC, which Bible are you talking about when you say "Several translations have been made drawn from the original
Aramaic". Secondly, do you have any evidence to assert this?

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Posted: 31 July 2005 at 3:12pm

Here is a good starting page for bible translations in English.

Wikipedia

The Jerusalem Bible looks like it is the closest to the Bible
known and recommended by the Prophet Muhummad, but I am not a
scholar.

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DavidC Senior Member Joined: 20 September 2001 Location: United States Online Status: Offline Posts: 2211	Posted: 19 July 2005 at 7:35pm
	This thread is winding down, AhmadJoyia. We are debating semantics in someone else's thread. I say let's put it away for now and pick it up again later. This subject comes up every two weeks, so it shouldn't be too long
	David C.
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AhmadJoyia Senior Member Joined: 20 March 2005 Location: Pakistan Online Status: Offline Posts: 1161	Posted: 20 July 2005 at 8:10am
	Oh, I see. Ok, as your wish.
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hazeshawn Newbie Joined: 27 July 2005 Location: United States Online Status: Offline Posts: 9	Posted: 28 July 2005 at 7:20pm
	Trying to decipher the bible is like trying to decipher an M.Night Shaloman movie. They're both fictitious!
	To Hell With Terrorism! (I don't believe in the "made up Hell that's in the fiction books, but rather an Island in the Cayman Islands)
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DavidC Senior Member Joined: 20 September 2001 Location: United States Online Status: Offline Posts: 2211	Posted: 29 July 2005 at 6:16am
	The bible today is essentially the same as is the time of the Prophet Muhummad. Several translations have been made drawn from the original Aramaic.
	David C.
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Jazz Senior Member Joined: 11 July 2005 Online Status: Offline Posts: 110	Posted: 29 July 2005 at 3:01pm
	*Originally posted by hazeshawn* Trying to decipher the bible is like trying to decipher an M.Night Shaloman movie. They're both fictitious! Hi Hazeshawn, Have you ever studied the New Testament, particularly the Gospels and what Jesus was reported to have said? I think there is a very profound and distinct guidance in what Jesus had to say and it doesn't rely on any miracles or divinity that may be claimed on the part of "Christian" zealots. One may discard all the claims of divinity about Jesus and still find essentially the same guidance, unaltered from it's true meaning. Would you like to discuss and decipher the reported sayings attributed to Jesus? To clarify my position, I am not a member of any religion and I do prefer to believe in a creative principle and principal.
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Jazz Senior Member Joined: 11 July 2005 Online Status: Offline Posts: 110	Posted: 29 July 2005 at 3:07pm
	*Originally posted by hazeshawn* Trying to decipher the bible is like trying to decipher an M.Night Shaloman movie. They're both fictitious! Considering your positive assertoin that "bible" is fictitious (Gospels too?)........you are now in a position to prove your claim.........can you do this?...........otherwise it is merely an opinion. What criterion do you use to determine what is fictitious and what is not?..........then we may apply this criterion to other texts that are claimed to not be fictitious. Please proceed.
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AhmadJoyia Senior Member Joined: 20 March 2005 Location: Pakistan Online Status: Offline Posts: 1161	Posted: 31 July 2005 at 11:07am
	*Originally posted by DavidC* The bible today is essentially the same as is the time of the Prophet Muhummad. Several translations have been made drawn from the original Aramaic. Dear Bro DavidC, which Bible are you talking about when you say "Several translations have been made drawn from the original Aramaic". Secondly, do you have any evidence to assert this?
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DavidC Senior Member Joined: 20 September 2001 Location: United States Online Status: Offline Posts: 2211	Posted: 31 July 2005 at 3:12pm
	Here is a good starting page for bible translations in English. Wikipedia The Jerusalem Bible looks like it is the closest to the Bible known and recommended by the Prophet Muhummad, but I am not a scholar. Edited by DavidC
	David C.
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