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Quote Lameese Replybullet Posted: 27 June 2005 at 12:14pm
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And who needs to be liberated?

 

Hmmm, don't know, it is not up to anyone person or group to judge that 

 

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Quote MOCKBA Replybullet Posted: 27 June 2005 at 7:39pm
you trap yourself in a full circle, don't you?
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Quote Colin Replybullet Posted: 28 June 2005 at 1:31am
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When you take pride in democratic pillars of the state of the western civilization you should be aware that the leader (or President Bush, in this case) of such state represents people's choice. Or perhaps the definition of democracy has also been recently edited. Please update, then.

The people's choice has a habit of getting rid of bad leaders. It doesn't happen everytime, but because whoever's in power at any given time, knows they are answerable to the democratic process, they abuse their position of power at great risk. Where as a dictator simply throws the opposition in prison...or worse. Democracy is by no means perfect but the alternatives have even more serious flaws. I think it was Winston Churchill who said: "democracy is the worst form of government except all the others that have been tried"

 

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Quote rami Replybullet Posted: 28 June 2005 at 2:15am
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Mr Collin you are corect i only moderate by the forum Guidlines, people are free to say whatever they like as long as the Guidlines are not broken. I think Dr Syed Alawi is a good example on the guidlines not being biased against non muslims.

or at least to what extent the guidlines can be pushed.

Sulayman i sugest you read the guidlines if you have not understood them then that is something i can not help you with.


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Quote MOCKBA Replybullet Posted: 28 June 2005 at 4:23am

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The people's choice has a habit of getting rid of bad leaders. It doesn't happen everytime, but because whoever's in power at any given time, knows they are answerable to the democratic process, they abuse their position of power at great risk. Where as a dictator simply throws the opposition in prison...or worse. Democracy is by no means perfect but the alternatives have even more serious flaws. I think it was Winston Churchill who said: "democracy is the worst form of government except all the others that have been tried"

"Abusing position of power" and "throwing opposition in prison" are just about the same things only worded differently.

 

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Quote Lameese Replybullet Posted: 28 June 2005 at 4:55am

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you trap yourself in a full circle, don't you?

 

not really, but maybe in your mind I do :)

 

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Quote Colin Replybullet Posted: 28 June 2005 at 8:11am
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The people's choice has a habit of getting rid of bad leaders. It doesn't happen everytime, but because whoever's in power at any given time, knows they are answerable to the democratic process, they abuse their position of power at great risk. Where as a dictator simply throws the opposition in prison...or worse. Democracy is by no means perfect but the alternatives have even more serious flaws. I think it was Winston Churchill who said: "democracy is the worst form of government except all the others that have been tried"

"Abusing position of power" and "throwing opposition in prison" are just about the same things only worded differently.

Not necessarily, but if that's what you wish to believe.. so be it.

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Quote ZamanH Replybullet Posted: 28 June 2005 at 10:41am
Even if its assume that the Westerners don't condone their governments for their unethical actions, it is highly unlikely that they will continue to do so for long, as, they depend for their prosperity on the dirty works of their governments.

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