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bullet Posted: 06 August 2008 at 9:58am
Originally posted by Israfil

 
 
My dear Israfil, spirituality does not depend on resources.
 
Ok whatever you say. Please stop calling me your dear. You consider me a fake Muslim behave like it.  
 
 
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Edited by Chrysalis - 06 August 2008 at 9:59am
"O Lord, forgive me, my parents and Muslims in the Hereafter. O Lord, show mercy on them as they showed mercy to me when I was young."
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bullet Posted: 06 August 2008 at 11:55am
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I do not know about other areas, but here in my country a multi-racial one at that, there is no obvious racial prejudice. Especially in the masjid (mosque). Baitullah (house of Allah). Everyone is the same. Even our taqwa (humble piety) only Allah knows. The only reason they segregate is perhaps due to language barrier. However during prayers, there is no segregation, all are one and all speak in one universal language - Arabic.
 
I had been to Mecca during Hajj. MashaAllah! To see the wonder of Allah Subhanahuwataala in bringing all nations, all colours under one kalimah shahadah - LA ILA HAILALLAH MUHAMMADURASULULLAh - is overwhelmingly so touching that it brought tears to our eyes. During prayers the whole masjid is obediently following  the imam, regardless of race or language or nationality. SubhanAllah!
 
In Islam, there should not be any racial segregation. Race or colour or nationality only exist in this world, however in the hereafter, where our Ruh or souls will reside forever, there is none. The Ruh has no colours and no race.
 
Well here in California the most diverse State in the United States we have many cultures and many ethnic grops that mingle. It is those unfortunate times where, in neighborhoods and even in the mosques, Synagoges, and churches people can be their most ignorant. Even if you haven't seen it yourself does not mean it does not exist where you live. People there may learn to tolerate another but I'm sure there are culture lines that are drawn when interacting with people of different ethnic groups.
 
I understand now in my life these attitudes cannot be change by me but over time through generationalunderstanding and influence of multiculturalism, only then can these traditional lines can be faded.
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bullet Posted: 06 August 2008 at 5:32pm
LOL!!  irsafil thank you the great example of hate directed towards me by saying about me:
 
"...you have badly promoted , ...hostility and hardcore Bible thumping, ...matyerial here without citations therefore committed plagerism [I have asked you to point these out so I could make the corrctions], ...sloppy views, ...continue to post Quranic versesto prove your views without very good explanation" 
 
 
"Abelard's arguments for rejecting (a)(c) are sophisticated and subtle. For the claim that reason may be fruitfully applied to a particular article of faith, Abelard offers a particular case study in his own writings. The bulk of Abelard's work on theology is devoted to his dialectical investigation of the Trinity. He elaborates an original theory of identity to address issues surrounding the Trinity, one that has wider applicability in metaphysics. The upshot of his enquiries is that belief in the Trinity is rationally justifiable since as far as reason can take us we find that the doctrine makes sense at least, once the tools of dialectic have been properly employed."
 
I have said more then once that I understand, but do not care for the term Trinity.  It is man's attempt to put a label on the makeup of GOD and I believe that it actually limits GOD.
 
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bullet Posted: 06 August 2008 at 5:42pm

Then there is this response my words black sign's red:

 
Do you realize that by making Mohammad sinless you are bringing a partner to Allah, equating Mohammad and Allah? This is my opinion and the response of hate-
That is figment of your imagination my dear!
You are just jealous of God' buddy, slave elect just like the devil was jealous of Adam! you need to get a life that is my advice to you!
Remember when God invited his Muhammad(saw) for heavenly treat he visited, Jesus(as) at a different location than when he had audience with God and received the gift of salat! Jesus and Moses are ashamed to visit with God for what their followers are doing here on earth if you really want know!
 

Did Mohammad have more then the number of wives allowed by the Quran?  WHAT?
Tell us first are you a man or woman, straight or otherwise!
 open up your profile then we will talk about our beloveds!

 

Why ask for forgiveness if you haven't sinned?  I asked this in regards to Mohammad and was given a disgusting link that caused porn to be put on my computer.  Sorry but it was you that knew about the link not I.
Why build levees- there is no rain yet! Why have guns -you don't see the murderer ? Why guard the bank don't see the robber- but it is all in the perception! you have let the main robber to run rampant 'the diablo' in your world and you want to ask about sin-- talk about the spectrum of it, degrees of it! Visit this site and get the taste of your world

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bullet Posted: 06 August 2008 at 7:22pm
 
 Believer, the prophet asking for forgiveness was an example for all of us. He used to pray most of the time specially at night. His wife asked him "Why do you pray so much when Allah has forgiven everything to you???"
 
 He replied, "Should I not be thankful to Allah for all that He has done for me!" So this asking for forgiveness was also a lesson to the Muslims because the christians were talking too much about sin and the original sin. The forgiveness is a form of repentence which Jesus and John the baptist were preaching. But Christians forgot all about that and got hold of the sacrifice of an innocent man as a cure for their sins, forgetting all about repentence.
 
 There is no harm in asking Allah for forgiveness because man is likely to forget and make mistakes. This is an important step amongst Muslims towards uplifting towards spirituality. If the church had any need for spiritual matters, it would adopt the calling for forgiveness.  Jesus was busy calling his God and surely was asking for forgiveness, as he did in the garden just before his arrest. All prophets did like that.
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bullet Posted: 06 August 2008 at 9:34pm
Believer the sloppiness of the context of your response has left me speechless. Although in the figurative sense.

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bullet Posted: 07 August 2008 at 5:01am
Originally posted by Israfil

 
I understand now in my life these attitudes cannot be change by me but over time through generationalunderstanding and influence of multiculturalism, only then can these traditional lines can be faded.
 
"O mankind! We created you from a single (pair) of a male and a female, and made you into nations and tribes, that ye may know each other (not that ye may despise (each other). Verily the most honoured of you in the sight of Allah is (he who is) the most righteous of you. And Allah has full knowledge and is well acquainted (with all things). Surah Al-Hujurat 49:13
Ilahi Anta Maksudi, Wa Redhaka Mathlubi - Oh Allah, You are my destination, Your Pleasure is my Intention.
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bullet Posted: 07 August 2008 at 11:20am
Originally posted by Nur_Ilahi

Originally posted by Israfil

 
I understand now in my life these attitudes cannot be change by me but over time through generationalunderstanding and influence of multiculturalism, only then can these traditional lines can be faded.
 
"O mankind! We created you from a single (pair) of a male and a female, and made you into nations and tribes, that ye may know each other (not that ye may despise (each other). Verily the most honoured of you in the sight of Allah is (he who is) the most righteous of you. And Allah has full knowledge and is well acquainted (with all things). Surah Al-Hujurat 49:13
 
I see you will not apologize for falsely assuming I said something I didn't. Ah the self-righteous people amuse me.
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