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Quote believer Replybullet Posted: 11 July 2008 at 3:57pm
LOL!!  minuteman how many times do we have to repeat-
READ THE WHOLE STORY!! 
 
You will never understand Jesus and the Gospel if you don't  close the Quran, open your heart and read the true Gospel. 
 
Why do I say close the Quran-because there is nothing in the Quran that tells you about Jesus' holy character.
 
Excuse me for shouting but If you are unable to read what I have pasted PLEASE read the part I made bold.
 
Luke 22
 
33But he replied, "Lord, I am ready to go with you to prison and to death."

 34Jesus answered, "I tell you, Peter, before the rooster crows today, you will deny three times that you know me."

 35Then Jesus asked them, "When I sent you without purse, bag or sandals, did you lack anything?"
      "Nothing," they answered.

 36He said to them, "But now if you have a purse, take it, and also a bag; and if you don't have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one. 37It is written: 'And he was numbered with the transgressors'; and I tell you that this must be fulfilled in me. Yes, what is written about me is reaching its fulfillment."

 38The disciples said, "See, Lord, here are two swords."
      "That is enough," he replied.

Jesus Prays on the Mount of Olives
 39Jesus went out as usual to the Mount of Olives, and his disciples followed him. 40On reaching the place, he said to them, "Pray that you will not fall into temptation." 41He withdrew about a stone's throw beyond them, knelt down and prayed, 42"Father, if you are willing, take this cup from me; yet not my will, but yours be done." 43An angel from heaven appeared to him and strengthened him. 44And being in anguish, he prayed more earnestly, and his sweat was like drops of blood falling to the ground.

 45When he rose from prayer and went back to the disciples, he found them asleep, exhausted from sorrow. 46"Why are you sleeping?" he asked them. "Get up and pray so that you will not fall into temptation."

Jesus Arrested
 47While he was still speaking a crowd came up, and the man who was called Judas, one of the Twelve, was leading them. He approached Jesus to kiss him, 48but Jesus asked him, "Judas, are you betraying the Son of Man with a kiss?"

 49When Jesus' followers saw what was going to happen, they said, "Lord, should we strike with our swords?" 50And one of them struck the servant of the high priest, cutting off his right ear.

 51But Jesus answered, "No more of this!" And he touched the man's ear and healed him.

 52Then Jesus said to the chief priests, the officers of the temple guard, and the elders, who had come for him, "Am I leading a rebellion, that you have come with swords and clubs? 53Every day I was with you in the temple courts, and you did not lay a hand on me. But this is your hour—when darkness reigns."



Edited by believer - 11 July 2008 at 4:01pm
John 3
16"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.
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Quote minuteman Replybullet Posted: 11 July 2008 at 10:07pm
 
 What Jesus said was right and what he taught was also right. In a situation like he was, it was the best and the only teaching i.e. love every one, even thy enemy. There was no other way at that time. There was Roman (pagan, foreign) rule. His own people were highly spoiled and ignorant. The clergy were using the religion of Judaism only for their bad ideas (wishes).
 
 What you have written above is very much true. I am with you. I do not carry any weapon. I am struggling against the bigots. My weapons are only spiritual weapons and love is foremost, with zero hatred.
 
 I know you are JW and you have similar ideology. You also believe in complete peaceful manners. But there are reports of your links with other militant groups, in the past. I cannot say anything about that. I only read it here on this net.
 
 If you love Jesus you have got to love Muhammad too. Otherwise you are nowhere in any religious ideology. For that you have to learn some real things by reading the Quran. Many things about Judaism and christianity are found in the Quran.
 
 I as a Muslim have all the love for Jesus and Moses and Muhammad and Mary and apostles of Jesus. There is  no bad word to be found about the above named persons in the Quran. Nothing bad. The Quran can make a man into a model like a prophet (saint) even today. There is nothing good in the bible which is not found in the Quran. Every good thing of the bible is present in the Quran.
 
 Same is about Torah. All good things of Torah are found in the Quran. Nothing is missing. Muhammad was guided and given the gift of being an example of all the previous prophets of Allah. he was told to follow the good steps of all the previous prophets of Allah. He was the super seal of all prophets. The prophethood of all prophets of God is proved by Muhammad. If there is no Quran then the prophethood of any one cannot be proved.


Edited by minuteman - 11 July 2008 at 10:10pm
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Quote believer Replybullet Posted: 20 July 2008 at 10:51am

Thank you minuteman if you are responding to me. 

Are you saying that I have been linked with a militant group?  You can private message me.
 
I can love Mohammad as a fellow human, a saint and a sinner like all of us, but do not have to consider him a prophet of GOD.
John 3
16"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.
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Quote robin Replybullet Posted: 24 July 2008 at 1:06am
Originally posted by minuteman

 robin, please correct the one sentence English of your last post. Make it understandable, what you want to say. What are you trying to accuse the muslim for? And how come?
 
Jesus COMMANDED HIS followers to pass the bread and wine between themselves on Nisan 14th each year, if that is not done then they do not obey him!
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Quote minuteman Replybullet Posted: 24 July 2008 at 1:21am
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Thank you minuteman if you are responding to me. 

Are you saying that I have been linked with a militant group?  You can private message me.
 
I can love Mohammad as a fellow human, a saint and a sinner like all of us, but do not have to consider him a prophet of GOD.
 
 Sorry, beleiver, my long post was not for you. It was for robin. Please read all that again (or do not read it). It was not addressed to you.
 
 You are a believer. You believe in Jesus and perhaps Moses too. It is alright. You believe in God. That is very well. If you do not like to believe that Muhamamd is a servant and messenger of God (Allah) then it is upto you. You can have your religion as you like. I have no objection. You are absolutely free to adopt your faith as you like. That is the message of Islam.
 
 I had to read one of your posts about the arrest of Jesus. It is not the first time that I had read it. It is all very clear that the religious bigots had got onto Jesus too quickly. They were the enemies of Jesus and enemies of truth. They did what they did. But they lost the battle in the end. The Quran describes that too. It says that some people believed in Jesus and some disbelieved (opposed severely). Allah says "Then We helped the believers in Jesus to prevail upon the disbelievers.."
 
 I read your post and I fully agree with what happened at the time of the arrest of Jesus. Thanks.
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Quote believer Replybullet Posted: 25 July 2008 at 7:19am
LOL!  OK no problem.
 
I have had this theory that Mohammad started out as a good person, believing in GOD and the truth about Jesus.
 
Mohammad understood the need to follow the one True GOD and not the pagan gods of early Arabia.  He was sincerely trying to help the pagans see the Truth.  Mohammad's first verses could be used like a study guide to get to the full meaning of the Bible. 
John 3
16"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.
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Quote honeto Replybullet Posted: 17 November 2008 at 6:10pm
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Matthew 26

 26While they were eating, Jesus took bread, gave thanks and broke it, and gave it to his disciples, saying, "Take and eat; this is my body."

 27Then he took the cup, gave thanks and offered it to them, saying, "Drink from it, all of you. 28This is my blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many for the forgiveness of sins. 29I tell you, I will not drink of this fruit of the vine from now on until that day when I drink it anew with you in my Father's kingdom."

 30When they had sung a hymn, they went out to the Mount of Olives.

Mark 14

   22While they were eating, Jesus took bread, gave thanks and broke it, and gave it to his disciples, saying, "Take it; this is my body."

 23Then he took the cup, gave thanks and offered it to them, and they all drank from it.

 24"This is my blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many," he said to them. 25"I tell you the truth, I will not drink again of the fruit of the vine until that day when I drink it anew in the kingdom of God."

Luke 22

  14When the hour came, Jesus and his apostles reclined at the table. 15And he said to them, "I have eagerly desired to eat this Passover with you before I suffer. 16For I tell you, I will not eat it again until it finds fulfillment in the kingdom of God."

 17After taking the cup, he gave thanks and said, "Take this and divide it among you. 18For I tell you I will not drink again of the fruit of the vine until the kingdom of God comes."

 19And he took bread, gave thanks and broke it, and gave it to them, saying, "This is my body given for you; do this in remembrance of me."

 20In the same way, after the supper he took the cup, saying, "This cup is the new covenant in my blood, which is poured out for you.

 
They disobey the one that call thier Prophet and thus disoby Allah!
 
So in a word, NO!
 
 
Robin,
don't speak for me or anyone of us, please only speak for yourself, because you will only be asked about what you said and did.
Calling Jesus what he was not (god) is a dis-honor. And most of Christians seem to do that. Muslims on the other hand honor him for what he was, a servant of God, a messanger whom God sent to guide his people.
 
Jew also dis-honored him, they refused to believe he was the Massiah, they called him an illegitimate child and persuaded the rulers of that time to kill him. God Almighty saved him from being killed by his enemies and saved and reaised him to Himself.
 
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39:64 Proclaim: Is it some one other than God that you order me to worship, O you ignorant ones?"
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Quote Nazarene Replybullet Posted: 21 March 2009 at 11:20pm
 
peace upon all
yes muslims do honor jesus' wishes:
John 8:40
"If you were Abraham's children," said Jesus, "then you would do the things Abraham did. As it is, you are determined to kill me, a man who has told you the truth that I heard from God. Abraham did not do such things.
 
as you can read in the above jesus came to save them from themselves by bring them[ jews] back to the true faith of abraham. they did not "do the things abraham did".
   just as islam is tring to do for you and all humanity.
see jesus and islam share the same goal. islam like jesus can only share the message. all the rest is in your hands
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