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seekshidayath
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Posted: 25 June 2008 at 6:25pm

Originally posted by Nur_Ilahi

Hi Robin,

Do you know that the Kaaba is the center of the earth?

That it has zero magnetism compared to all other parts of the earth?

Muslim Scientist: Neil Armstrong Proved Mecca - World Center

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ixfk4LsKWnw&feature=related

MASHALLAH!

Brother, kindly post this at "General Discussion". There was once a discussion over this topic, and few members wanted us to prove that Kaa'ba is the centre of the earth.

Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) said: “All the descendants of Adam are sinners, and the best of sinners are those who repent."

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Posted: 26 June 2008 at 2:24pm

Daniel 7

25 He will speak against the Most High and oppress his saints and try to change the set times and the laws. The saints will be handed over to him for a time, times and half a time.

John 3
16"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.

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Posted: 27 June 2008 at 12:30pm

Originally posted by honeto

Robin,

that sounds good, but the following verse is kind-a strange, as Jesus himself use to pray in open with others.

Luke 22:39Jesus went out as usual to the Mount of Olives, and his disciples followed him. 40On reaching the place, he said to them, "Pray that you will not fall into temptation." 41He withdrew about a stone's throw beyond them, knelt down and prayed, 42"Father, if you are willing, take this cup from me; yet not my will, but yours be done." 43An angel from heaven appeared to him and strengthened him. 44And being in anguish, he prayed more earnestly, and his sweat was like drops of blood falling to the ground.

believer,

if you are reading this, note that Jesus get strengthened by an angel. We know that if he was God, as you claim, he would not need an angel of God's help.

Hasan

You are right!

Jesus is NOT God!

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Posted: 27 June 2008 at 6:27pm

Originally posted by believer

Daniel 7

25 He will speak against the Most High and oppress his saints and try to change the set times and the laws. The saints will be handed over to him for a time, times and half a time.

Can you address the issue rather than cut and past believer??

Hasan

39:64 Proclaim: Is it some one other than God that you order me to worship, O you ignorant ones?"

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Posted: 27 June 2008 at 7:16pm

Funny how Islam never says reject a christians beliefs, or any other religion. But Christians always have the tendency to find false information in Quran, but no matter how you try my friend there is none. 1 word in the quran has more than 1 million meanings.

Stop trying to show us why you reject us, it is your religion Robin and you follow it as we follow ours. Why is it that you assume that Muslim Terrorist, OH WAIT DID I SAY MUSLIM?? The last time I checked being a muslim does not involve terrorism, nor does it involve beating your wife and screaming derka derka. You ignorant white folks have been ignorant since the beginning of racism. We are all people, there is one god, he has no sons, and Muhammed is his prophet (peace be upon him).

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Posted: 27 June 2008 at 7:24pm

Believer,

could you please explain to us in this forum what daniel 7: 25 means and why you post it here, we need clarification

Zaharah

Edited by Zaharah - 27 June 2008 at 7:25pm

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Posted: 28 June 2008 at 3:06am

From believer:

Daniel 7

25 He will speak against the Most High and oppress his saints and try to change the set times and the laws. The saints will be handed over to him for a time, times and half a time.

I was also wondering why believer posted the above from Daniel 7. There are some pronouns used in the verse. Who is He, the most high, his saints, handed over to him (him?) etc. Nothing is understood unless we open the chapter 7 of Daniel and ready the material from there. Thanks anyhow>

If any one is bad some one must suffer

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Posted: 29 June 2008 at 1:40pm

Originally posted by Nasir

Funny how Islam never says reject a christians beliefs, or any other religion. But Christians always have the tendency to find false information in Quran, but no matter how you try my friend there is none. 1 word in the quran has more than 1 million meanings.

Stop trying to show us why you reject us, it is your religion Robin and you follow it as we follow ours. Why is it that you assume that Muslim Terrorist, OH WAIT DID I SAY MUSLIM?? The last time I checked being a muslim does not involve terrorism, nor does it involve beating your wife and screaming derka derka. You ignorant white folks have been ignorant since the beginning of racism. We are all people, there is one god, he has no sons, and Muhammed is his prophet (peace be upon him).

Not all muslims are as you say above, but we go by actions as they speak louder than words.

The words that suit the action of some Muslims:_

Sura (Chapter) 9:29

“Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Apostle, nor acknowledge the Religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book*, until they pay the Jizya** with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.”

*Christians

**The Head Tax levied on non Muslims living in an Islamic country.

PARADISE FOR SOLIDERS!

The Holy Qur'an by Abdullah Yusuf Ali p.1315 says at:-

Surah (Chapter) 47:4
"4 Therefore, when ye meet* the Unbelievers (in fight), smite at their necks; at length, when ye have thoroughly subdued them, bind a bond firmly (on them): Thereafter (is the time for) either generosity or ransom: Until the war lays down its burdens. Thus (are ye commanded): But if it had been Allah's Will, He could certainly have exacted retribution from them (Himself); but (He lets you fight) in order to test you, some with others. But those who are slain in the way of Allah,-He will never let their deeds be lost.

6 And admit them to The Garden** which He Has announced for them."

*Footnote No. 4820 on page 1315:-
"When once the fight (Jihad) is entered upon, carry it out with utmost vigour, and strike home your blows at the most vital points (smite at their necks) both literally and figuratively. You cannot wage war with kid gloves."

**Footnote No. 4826 on page 1316:-
"The Garden which He has announced for them: the state of Bliss which is declared in Revelation to be destined for those who serve Allah,"

Surah 4:101 Section 15. When ye travel through the earth, there is no blame on you if ye shorten your prayers, for fear the Unbelievers may attack you: For the Unbelievers are unto you open enemies.

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