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Akhe Abdullah
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Posted: 16 November 2009 at 12:15pm

Originally posted by afghani

I personally know people whose family members were killed by suicide-losers.

This topic is sensative i agree but there is another side to you thinking of people dying they are called martyrs and they get Jannah.The thing is we all want Jannah but nobody wants to die. What are we holding on to in this life? nothing, these so called losers are our brothers not the American soldiers I'll tell you what is suicide declaring war with an ememy who is more powerfull than you and not having Allah on your side.That is suicide.

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Posted: 16 November 2009 at 3:15pm

I see no difference between Major Malik Nidal Hasan shooting innocent people( yeah in this instance US soldiers were innocent as they were not fighting) and random acts of suicide bombings. It is WRONG!

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Posted: 16 November 2009 at 9:00pm

salam,

yes it is wrong to kill your own brothers,but if someone kills the enemy that is justified, that ok no matter they fought the war or not they chose to be with thewicked people,they chose the ideology of the wicked arm forces.

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Posted: 16 November 2009 at 9:55pm

Originally posted by martha

I see no difference between Major Malik Nidal Hasan shooting innocent people( yeah in this instance US soldiers were innocent as they were not fighting) and random acts of suicide bombings. It is WRONG!

Salams,May Allah Forgive them.Allah Knows.I know how it affects me now and im not Afghani or pro U.S/or pro U.S troops killing Muslims or Muslims killing Muslims or killing of inocent people.It is said in AHadith that they will get Jannah if they innocent, if they die in battle. Alhamduillah!

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Posted: 17 November 2009 at 1:12am

I see some difference. He was treacherous. He shouldn't have joined the us Army, who will today and tomorrow keep killing muslims/will keep fighting islam. He wasn't fighting against them. Be broke the trust/oath.

On the other hand, if he originally planned to infiltrate in US Army and weaken them/Sabotage, as the intelligence machines of US/Israel do; then he might have a logic for his action.

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Posted: 17 November 2009 at 3:21am

Originally posted by fais

salam,

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walaikum asalaam,

But who is the enemy? Non-Christians because they don't follow Islam? That isn't a justifed reason in Islam.

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Posted: 17 November 2009 at 3:26am

Originally posted by Akhe Abdullah

Salams,
Do you mean the innocent that die as a result of war? And those that fight and die in battle?

Lol, let's all run riot then! We are ALL saved regardless! (BUt only if you are muslim?)

BUt perhaps this is not what you meant bro. Not sure.

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Posted: 17 November 2009 at 5:15am

salam,

I never said nonmuslims are the enemy,i said the arm forces who are anytime ready to kill muslims,just waiting for the orders to go on a kill.so this is the result of their own chioce,if those individual bombers had power of a huge army they would have done the same thing defeat allied forces they dont have power so they doing it individually.

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Akhe Abdullah Male Islam Senior Member Joined: 19 November 2008 Location: United States Online Status: Offline Posts: 1252	Posted: 16 November 2009 at 12:15pm
	*Originally posted by afghani* I personally know people whose family members were killed by suicide-losers. This topic is sensative i agree but there is another side to you thinking of people dying they are called martyrs and they get Jannah.The thing is we all want Jannah but nobody wants to die. What are we holding on to in this life? nothing, these so called losers are our brothers not the American soldiers I'll tell you what is suicide declaring war with an ememy who is more powerfull than you and not having Allah on your side.That is suicide.
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martha Senior Member Joined: 30 October 2007 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1141	Posted: 16 November 2009 at 3:15pm
	I see no difference between Major Malik Nidal Hasan shooting innocent people( yeah in this instance US soldiers were innocent as they were not fighting) and random acts of suicide bombings. It is WRONG!
	some of us are a lot like cement:- all mixed up and permanently set
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fais Senior Member Joined: 24 August 2009 Location: Oman Online Status: Offline Posts: 281	Posted: 16 November 2009 at 9:00pm
	salam, yes it is wrong to kill your own brothers,but if someone kills the enemy that is justified, that ok no matter they fought the war or not they chose to be with thewicked people,they chose the ideology of the wicked arm forces. regards
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Akhe Abdullah Male Islam Senior Member Joined: 19 November 2008 Location: United States Online Status: Offline Posts: 1252	Posted: 16 November 2009 at 9:55pm
	*Originally posted by martha* I see no difference between Major Malik Nidal Hasan shooting innocent people( yeah in this instance US soldiers were innocent as they were not fighting) and random acts of suicide bombings. It is WRONG! Salams,May Allah Forgive them.Allah Knows.I know how it affects me now and im not Afghani or pro U.S/or pro U.S troops killing Muslims or Muslims killing Muslims or killing of inocent people.It is said in AHadith that they will get Jannah if they innocent, if they die in battle. Alhamduillah!
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nu001 Male Islam Senior Member Joined: 02 March 2007 Online Status: Offline Posts: 252	Posted: 17 November 2009 at 1:12am
	*Originally posted by martha* I see no difference between Major Malik Nidal Hasan shooting innocent people( yeah in this instance US soldiers were innocent as they were not fighting) and random acts of suicide bombings. It is WRONG! I see some difference. He was treacherous. He shouldn't have joined the us Army, who will today and tomorrow keep killing muslims/will keep fighting islam. He wasn't fighting against them. Be broke the trust/oath. On the other hand, if he originally planned to infiltrate in US Army and weaken them/Sabotage, as the intelligence machines of US/Israel do; then he might have a logic for his action.
	"Al-Quran-The only Straight path to success. Alhamdulillah"
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martha Senior Member Joined: 30 October 2007 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1141	Posted: 17 November 2009 at 3:21am
	*Originally posted by fais* salam, yes it is wrong to kill your own brothers,but if someone kills the enemy that is justified, that ok no matter they fought the war or not they chose to be with thewicked people,they chose the ideology of the wicked arm forces. regards walaikum asalaam, But who is the enemy? Non-Christians because they don't follow Islam? That isn't a justifed reason in Islam.
	some of us are a lot like cement:- all mixed up and permanently set
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martha Senior Member Joined: 30 October 2007 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1141	Posted: 17 November 2009 at 3:26am
	*Originally posted by Akhe Abdullah* *Originally posted by martha* I see no difference between Major Malik Nidal Hasan shooting innocent people( yeah in this instance US soldiers were innocent as they were not fighting) and random acts of suicide bombings. It is WRONG! Salams,May Allah Forgive them.Allah Knows.I know how it affects me now and im not Afghani or pro U.S/or pro U.S troops killing Muslims or Muslims killing Muslims or killing of inocent people.It is said in AHadith that they will get Jannah if they innocent, if they die in battle. Alhamduillah! Salams, Do you mean the innocent that die as a result of war? And those that fight and die in battle? Lol, let's all run riot then! We are ALL saved regardless! (BUt only if you are muslim?) BUt perhaps this is not what you meant bro. Not sure.
	some of us are a lot like cement:- all mixed up and permanently set
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fais Senior Member Joined: 24 August 2009 Location: Oman Online Status: Offline Posts: 281	Posted: 17 November 2009 at 5:15am
	salam, I never said nonmuslims are the enemy,i said the arm forces who are anytime ready to kill muslims,just waiting for the orders to go on a kill.so this is the result of their own chioce,if those individual bombers had power of a huge army they would have done the same thing defeat allied forces they dont have power so they doing it individually.
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