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Quote Nur_Ilahi Replybullet Posted: 15 June 2008 at 6:34am
Hi Merigen,
 

Why is there such strict segregation of Muslim men and women?  Why aren't you allowed to worship together as a family even at your mosque?

 

When you are at home yes you can. The father or a most senior male person as the imam or leader. But when in the mosque, the men have to be segregated from women. The explanation is below.

 

Why aren't dogs allowed in the house?  They are one of God's most wonderful creatures.

 

Why are some musical instruments haram?  Which ones?  Do you like music?

Of course I do like music. But that was when I was young. Now, it does not make much diference whether I hear music or not. Music makes me forget my zikr – remembrance of God. If you want to know further here is the link. http://www.islamqa.com/en/ref/5000

 

 

Do you read fiction novels? I did., when I was younger and my faith was still not strong enough. Now, again it is a waste of time. It is much preferable that I go on line and read informations about Islam or read Islamic books.

 

Do you like live theatre? – There is no necessity. I can live without it.

 

Why is it considered immodest for a woman to have her arms exposed but not a man's?  I ask this because for recent problems in the UK with washing before surgery and attending patients?

 

Islam teaches that a man’s desire/passion/lust starts from the eyes. Men gets easily aroused sexually when seeing a woman especially if the women bare themselves. Some men gets excited sexually when seeing a woman’s hair, some eye the neck, some love the figure and the bum while most men love to ogle a woman’s boobs.

On the other hand, a woman’s desire/passion/lust starts from the touch. In order for men to increase the sexual drive of a woman, the first thing that they do is caressing the bare skin.  

Whenever you attend a gathering of Muslims, whether in prayers, in classes or public forums, women will be seated in the rear while men will be in the front. This is to save the men from the whisperings of satan and lust and hence can concentrate more in their prayers or in their studies.

Imagine a woman praying infront of a man and the when doing ruku’ or bowing, he sees the bum of the woman infront of him, satan or lust will sure take advantage. Hence the law on hijab. These Islamic teachings are from God Al-Mighty, Al-Aleem – All Knowing.

 

As I said, I'll probably be adding to this list of questions.  If you sincerely wants to know more, you should just google  or perhaps go to sites like this http://www.islamqa.com/en

 

 

 

 

 

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Quote Ron Webb Replybullet Posted: 15 June 2008 at 12:48pm
What a barren, narrow life you are describing, Nur!  And how disappointed God must be with your refusal to accept the many pleasures which He has provided for you!  Why on earth do you think He created you with the capacity to enjoy music, art, literature, dance, and so on?  These things are not distractions from God.  They are God's greatest gifts to us -- and when someone gives you a gift, it is bad manners not to at least try to be appreciative.  That's how I see it anyway.
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Quote Merigen Replybullet Posted: 15 June 2008 at 5:34pm
Nur,
 

Imagine a woman praying infront of a man and the when doing ruku’ or bowing, he sees the bum of the woman infront of him, satan or lust will sure take advantage. Hence the law on hijab. These Islamic teachings are from God Al-Mighty, Al-Aleem – All Knowing.

 
I attend church and we sit wherever we want.  No bowing goes on but there is a fair amount of standing and singing.  No one looks like satan is whispering in their ears and men don't seem to look like they're going to jump anyone once the service is over.  Coffee hour runs smoothly too.  I forgot to mention that we have a Bible session before the service.  That's a mixed group also and so far nothing has happened and it's been going on for years.  I would venture a guess that what you call Islamic teachings are actually some hadith handed down by some guy who was totally preoccupied by sex and puritanical at the same time. 
 
I'm trying to digest the rest of your answers.  It will take a while.
 
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Quote Ron Webb Replybullet Posted: 15 June 2008 at 7:45pm

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I attend church and we sit wherever we want.  No bowing goes on but there is a fair amount of standing and singing.  No one looks like satan is whispering in their ears and men don't seem to look like they're going to jump anyone once the service is over.

LOL I've often wondered why Islam assumes that Muslim men have so little self-control, especially with the draconian punishments they have for extramarital sex.

Just this morning, CBC Radio's "Sunday Edition" played an interview with a Muslim woman from Banda Aceh, Indonesia, commenting on the restrictions that women faced in that region.  Women are not allowed outside their homes after dark.  The reason?  They might be attacked by Muslim men.  So the woman made what I thought was a reasonable suggestion: if the men are the problem, then why not restrict the men from being on the street after dark? Big%20smile
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Quote Merigen Replybullet Posted: 16 June 2008 at 5:47am
if the men are the problem, then why not restrict the men from being on the street after dark? Big%20smile
 
 
LOL!!   That seems fair to me!
 
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Quote Nur_Ilahi Replybullet Posted: 16 June 2008 at 6:07am
Originally posted by Ron Webb

What a barren, narrow life you are describing, Nur!  And how disappointed God must be with your refusal to accept the many pleasures which He has provided for you!  Why on earth do you think He created you with the capacity to enjoy music, art, literature, dance, and so on?  These things are not distractions from God.  They are God's greatest gifts to us -- and when someone gives you a gift, it is bad manners not to at least try to be appreciative.  That's how I see it anyway.
 
Well then you do not know what the life of a Muslimi s like. We do not live for this life only, but the hereafter is more important for us. Our physical body will disintegrate once we die, but our soul will be alive forever. And this is the soul that we are trying to enrich with closeness to God Almighty.
 
I wonder whether you are aware that we are communicating via our souls, without even opening our mouth, or moving our lips, yet we can feel the emotion of each other. The soul that has no colours, no race that knows no boundaries. This is the soul that will be answerable to God AlMighty and the first question that God will ask, when we leave this world is - Ma Rabbuka? Who is your God?
 
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Quote Nur_Ilahi Replybullet Posted: 16 June 2008 at 6:15am
Originally posted by Merigen

Nur,
 

Imagine a woman praying infront of a man and the when doing ruku’ or bowing, he sees the bum of the woman infront of him, satan or lust will sure take advantage. Hence the law on hijab. These Islamic teachings are from God Al-Mighty, Al-Aleem – All Knowing.

 
 
I wonder why you quoted these, yet you avoid these facts.

Islam teaches that a man’s desire/passion/lust starts from the eyes. Men gets easily aroused sexually when seeing a woman especially if the women bare themselves. Some men gets excited sexually when seeing a woman’s hair, some eye the neck, some love the figure and the bum while most men love to ogle a woman’s boobs.

On the other hand, a woman’s desire/passion/lust starts from the touch. In order for men to increase the sexual drive of a woman, the first thing that they do is caressing the bare skin.  

No bowing goes on but there is a fair amount of standing and singing. The prophets even in your bible prostrate to God when they do their prayers, but not Christians nowadays. This confirms that Christians contradicts the teachings of Bible teachings.

I would venture a guess that what you call Islamic teachings are actually some hadith handed down by some guy who was totally preoccupied by sex and puritanical at the same time.  = There speaks an ignorant person. I will repeat again here - Adeenul 'Aql - Religion is intellect. So feed your intellect with knowledge than you will be enlightened.


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Quote Nur_Ilahi Replybullet Posted: 16 June 2008 at 6:21am
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 I've often wondered why Islam assumes that Muslim men have so little self-control, especially with the draconian punishments they have for extramarital sex.
 
These laws are from our Creator - Allah Al-Khaliq. It applies to the whole of human race. He created us and He knows what is best for us. That means it applies to you too. Just look at the morality of the Western men. Ever wonder why pornography are a favourite of men? Because Lust for men, starts from the eyes.
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