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Caringheart
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![]() Posted: 21 February 2013 at 9:21pm |
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Greetings Nur_Ilahi,
Men have structured the religion of Islam based on what Muhammad recited, and on observations from how Muhammad lived, and ruled. Just as it was men that structured the Catholic church based on the words of Jesus that were passed on and recorded by the people who knew, and walked, and lived with Him. Sometimes men get things wrong. That is why I go to the Word of God, which is in the Bible, and not to church leaders, to know God. "For the word of God is living and active.... Hebrews 4:12" be transformed by the renewing of your mind. Then you will be able to test and approve what God’s will is—his good, pleasing and perfect will. Romans 12 21 If so be that ye have heard him, and have been taught by him, as the truth is in Jesus: 22 You were taught, with regard to your former way of life, to put off your old self, which is being corrupted by its deceitful desires; 23 And be renewed in the spirit of your mind; 24 and to put on the new self, created to be like God in true righteousness and holiness. Salaam, Caringheart Edited by Caringheart - 22 February 2013 at 10:15am |
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Rational
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Joined: 28 December 2012 Online Status: Offline Posts: 180 |
![]() Posted: 22 February 2013 at 4:02am |
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Assalamo Alaikom Caringheart,
You're contradicting yourself again. BEFORE Originally posted by Caringheart I do not believe in religion. Religion is a thing of man. AFTER Originally posted by Caringheart
Religion is following the Word of God Is the Bible the Word of God? Originally posted by Caringheart
Not concerning oneself with the things which man prescribes, but seeking the actual will of God. Is the Bible the actual will of God? Originally posted by Caringheart I do not believe you have to belong to one of the religions structured by man to seek the will of God. Is the Bible structured by man? Originally posted by Caringheart
re·li·gion noun (from Merriam Webser online dictionary) the service and worship of God or the supernatural I adhere to this definition. ![]() Do you adhere to this definition through the Bible? Edited by Rational - 22 February 2013 at 10:01am |
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Caringheart
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![]() Posted: 22 February 2013 at 10:07am |
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Originally posted by Rational Assalamo Alaikom Caringheart, You're contradicting yourself again. BEFORE Originally posted by Caringheart I do not believe in religion. Religion is a thing of man. AFTER Originally posted by Caringheart
Religion is following the Word of God Is the Bible the Word of God? Originally posted by Caringheart
Not concerning oneself with the things which man prescribes, but seeking the actual will of God. Is the Bible the actual will of God? Originally posted by Caringheart I do not believe you have to belong to one of the religions structured by man to seek the will of God. Is the Bible structured by man? Originally posted by Caringheart
re·li·gion noun (from Merriam Webser online dictionary) the service and worship of God or the supernatural I adhere to this definition. ![]() Do you adhere to this definition through the Bible? Please do not take my words out of context. So let's define religion... to me it is following the Word of God... key words here... to me not concerning oneself with the things which man prescribes, but seeking the actual will of God.
I believe we seek the will of God with our whole being, not by doing what man tells us we must do. re·li·gion noun (from Merriam Webser online dictionary) the service and worship of God or the supernatural I adhere to this definition. ![]() and yes, I believe the Bible is the Word of God given to us through men inspired of God. "12 For the word of God is alive and active."and you know this when you read it. ![]() "Now we believe, not because of thy saying: for we have heard Him ourselves, and know that this is indeed the Christ, the Saviour of the world." (John 4) Salaam. Unfortunately you were denied reading my reply to Nur_Ilahi, due to moderator delays, before making your post. (even though mine was written well before yours )Edited by Caringheart - 22 February 2013 at 10:33am |
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Rational
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![]() Posted: 23 February 2013 at 4:29am |
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Assalamo Alaikom Caringheart,
BEFORE Originally posted by Caringheart I do not believe in religion. Religion is a thing of man. AFTER Originally posted by Caringheart To me, Religion is following the Word of God. I believe the Bible is the Word of God It's clear from you're own words, that the Bible is your Religion. Which implies that you have a religion, you believe in a religion. Everyone can see this. But, previously you said that you don't believe in religion and that it's a thing of man. You just need to take this statement back and admit that you were wrong. Don't confuse people by saying that you don't believe in religion while at the same time, you yourself have a religion. Edited by Rational - 23 February 2013 at 4:43am |
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Caringheart
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![]() Posted: 23 February 2013 at 11:49am |
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Originally posted by Rational Assalamo Alaikom Caringheart, BEFORE Originally posted by Caringheart I do not believe in religion. Religion is a thing of man. AFTER Originally posted by Caringheart To me, Religion is following the Word of God. I believe the Bible is the Word of God It's clear from you're own words, that the Bible is your Religion. Which implies that you have a religion, you believe in a religion. Everyone can see this. But, previously you said that you don't believe in religion and that it's a thing of man. You just need to take this statement back and admit that you were wrong. Don't confuse people by saying that you don't believe in religion while at the same time, you yourself have a religion. Semantics games. ![]() |
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Nur_Ilahi
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![]() Posted: 24 February 2013 at 9:02pm |
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Originally posted by Rational
Don't confuse people by saying that you don't believe in religion while at the same time, you yourself have a religion. I support you Bro. Caringheart, if you don't believe in religion, then you should stop quoting from the Bible as it belongs to the religion of Christianity. By the way, Caringheart, can a translation of a translation of a translation be called word of God? Salam |
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Ilahi Anta Maksudi, Wa Redhaka Mathlubi - Oh Allah, You are my destination, Your Pleasure is my Intention.
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Caringheart
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![]() Posted: 24 February 2013 at 9:22pm |
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Greetings Nur_Ilahi,
Did you read my reply to you which is at the top of this page, dated Feb. 21, and all the posts that came after? Salaam. |
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Rational
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![]() Posted: 25 February 2013 at 5:55am |
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Originally posted by Caringheart
Semantics games. ![]() You have no response. Only that it's "Semantics games". Everyone can see what you're doing. But you still insist. What you're saying is dangerous. Your words can mislead a person from seeking the one true religion. You deny every religion then expect people to seek. It goes against your own signature "Let us seek Truth". Don't confuse people by saying that you don't believe in religion while at the same time, you yourself have a religion
Edited by Rational - 25 February 2013 at 6:12am |
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