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Caringheart

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Posted: 07 February 2013 at 11:57am

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Greetings Nirvana,

It comes from the things which Jesus Himself said, and which the Jews obviously took seriously since they took Him before the Roman courts to be tried and sentenced.

Peace, or should I say namaste? Smile

Caringheart

Assalamo alaik Caringheart,

So the Jews also believe in the trinity?

Did the Jews believe in Jesus and the things He taught?
They had Him condemned for blasphemy.

Edited by Caringheart - 07 February 2013 at 11:59am

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Posted: 12 February 2013 at 12:34pm

Originally posted by Caringheart

Greetings Hasan,No worries, but thanks for you concern.I think you did not see my reply to Rational.and just to note, I certainly am not seeking to deceive anyone. Are you? I don't believe that you are. My God does not teach deception, in fact my God abhors deceit.<div ="passage version-KJV result-text-style-normal text- ">

16 These six things doth the Lord hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him:

17 A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood,

18 An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief,

19 A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren.

Salaam,Caringheart

Caringheart,
in your post above you suggest you believe in God and what God teaches. On the same thread not too long ago you have said these words:"I have said before that I do not believe in religion. Religion is a thing of man."

How come, you say you do not believe in religion and you say it is man made and now you are preaching, religion.

Why this hypocrisy?
Hasan

39:64 Proclaim: Is it some one other than God that you order me to worship, O you ignorant ones?"

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Posted: 12 February 2013 at 2:15pm

Originally posted by Caringheart

Originally posted by Rational

Originally posted by Caringheart

Greetings Nirvana,It comes from the things which Jesus Himself said, and which the Jews obviously took seriously since they took Him before the Roman courts to be tried and sentenced.Peace, or should I say namaste? [IMG]smileys/smiley1.gif" align="absmiddle" alt="Smile" />Caringheart

Assalamo alaik Caringheart,So the Jews also believe in the trinity?

Did the Jews believe in Jesus and the things He taught?They had Him condemned for blasphemy.

Caringheart,
the answer is no.
Hasan

39:64 Proclaim: Is it some one other than God that you order me to worship, O you ignorant ones?"

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Posted: 12 February 2013 at 2:42pm

Originally posted by honeto

16 These six things doth the hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him: 17 A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood, 18 An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief,

19 A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren.

Salaam,Caringheart

Greetings Hasan,

You confuse me. How is it that you think I am 'preaching religion'? Because I profess faith in God and in His Word?
This is not the same as religion. Man creates religion by building structure around God's Word, but God and His Word, live in the heart, not in these structures, and strictures, of man.

Salaam,
Caringheart

Edited by Caringheart - 12 February 2013 at 2:45pm

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Posted: 13 February 2013 at 7:14am

I do believe that no matter what is your religion, it you yourself can save you... There could be so many forms of GODS, but what matters most is believing. DOING things that are good for the people, serving and helping others, loving one another... THERE is no such religion that could tell that only they/followers of that religion will only be the ones to be save at the end of the world, NO. The ones who will be save are the ones that lives a life just as GOD wants us to be....

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Posted: 14 February 2013 at 3:39am

Originally posted by lydiaparkes52

I do believe that no matter what is your religion, it you yourself can save you... There could be so many forms of GODS, but what matters most is believing. DOING things that are good for the people, serving and helping others, loving one another... THERE is no such religion that could tell that only they/followers of that religion will only be the ones to be save at the end of the world, NO. The ones who will be save are the ones that lives a life just as GOD wants us to be....

You're wrong. Stop being naive. Stop thinking you know everything. You don't! Allah has given us the way. Go seek it, Go read the Quran. What are you loosing?

الله

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Posted: 14 February 2013 at 9:17am

Salaam,

What you write here is probably perfect for a peace loving, drug inducing, hippy community. But the truth of the matter is that the Holy Qur'an is the Criterion Al Furqan with which everything is measured. There is only ONE God and He wants to be worshipped in a certain way that He has ordained with His laws and rules. Anything outside of this is sin.

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Posted: 14 February 2013 at 12:25pm

Originally posted by Caringheart

Originally posted by honeto

19 A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren.

Salaam,Caringheart

Greetings Hasan,You confuse me. How is it that you think I am 'preaching religion'? Because I profess faith in God and in His Word? This is not the same as religion. Man creates religion by building structure around God's Word, but God and His Word, live in the heart, not in these structures, and strictures, of man.Salaam,Caringheart

CAringheart,
so now you are going to blame your hypocrisy on me too. On one side you say, religion is man made and on the other hand you say, Jesus, holy spirit and God are equal, and you use the Bible as your source which is claimed to be from God, and it's follower call it a religious book. And then you want to tell me that you do not believe or preach religion?
May God have mercy on you, take heed before it's too late friend. Don't pretend you have lost your mind, God only will not hold accountable those who are really insane.

"One Day will the Hypocrites- men and women - say to the Believers: "Wait for us! Let us borrow (a Light) from your Light!" It will be said: "Turn ye back to your rear! then seek a Light (where ye can)!" So a wall will be put up betwixt them, with a gate therein. Within it will be Mercy throughout, and without it, all alongside, will be (Wrath and) Punishment!"57:13
Hasan

Edited by honeto - 14 February 2013 at 12:26pm

39:64 Proclaim: Is it some one other than God that you order me to worship, O you ignorant ones?"

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Caringheart Senior Member Joined: 02 March 2012 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1330	Posted: 07 February 2013 at 11:57am
	*Originally posted by Rational* *Originally posted by Caringheart* Greetings Nirvana, It comes from the things which Jesus Himself said, and which the Jews obviously took seriously since they took Him before the Roman courts to be tried and sentenced. Peace, or should I say namaste? Caringheart Assalamo alaik Caringheart, So the Jews also believe in the trinity? Did the Jews believe in Jesus and the things He taught? They had Him condemned for blasphemy. Edited by Caringheart - 07 February 2013 at 11:59am
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honeto Senior Member Joined: 20 March 2008 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2340	Posted: 12 February 2013 at 12:34pm
	*Originally posted by Caringheart* Greetings Hasan,No worries, but thanks for you concern.I think you did not see my reply to Rational.and just to note, I certainly am not seeking to deceive anyone. Are you? I don't believe that you are. My God does not teach deception, in fact my God abhors deceit.<div ="passage version-KJV result-text-style-normal text- "> <span id="en-KJV-16557" ="text Prov-6-16"><sup ="versenum">16 These six things doth the <span style="font-variant: small-caps" ="small-caps">Lord</span> hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him:</span> <span id="en-KJV-16558" ="text Prov-6-17"><sup ="versenum">17 A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood,</span> <span id="en-KJV-16559" ="text Prov-6-18"><sup ="versenum">18 An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief,</span> <span id="en-KJV-16560" ="text Prov-6-19"><sup ="versenum">19 A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren.</span> Salaam,Caringheart Caringheart, in your post above you suggest you believe in God and what God teaches. On the same thread not too long ago you have said these words:"I have said before that I do not believe in religion. Religion is a thing of man." How come, you say you do not believe in religion and you say it is man made and now you are preaching, religion. Why this hypocrisy? Hasan
	39:64 Proclaim: Is it some one other than God that you order me to worship, O you ignorant ones?"
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honeto Senior Member Joined: 20 March 2008 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2340	Posted: 12 February 2013 at 2:15pm
	*Originally posted by Caringheart* *Originally posted by Rational* *Originally posted by Caringheart* Greetings Nirvana,It comes from the things which Jesus Himself said, and which the Jews obviously took seriously since they took Him before the Roman courts to be tried and sentenced.Peace, or should I say namaste? [IMG]smileys/smiley1.gif" align="absmiddle" alt="Smile" />Caringheart Assalamo alaik Caringheart,So the Jews also believe in the trinity? Did the Jews believe in Jesus and the things He taught?They had Him condemned for blasphemy. Caringheart, the answer is no. Hasan
	39:64 Proclaim: Is it some one other than God that you order me to worship, O you ignorant ones?"
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Caringheart Senior Member Joined: 02 March 2012 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1330	Posted: 12 February 2013 at 2:42pm
	*Originally posted by honeto* *Originally posted by Caringheart* Greetings Hasan,No worries, but thanks for you concern.I think you did not see my reply to Rational.and just to note, I certainly am not seeking to deceive anyone. Are you? I don't believe that you are. My God does not teach deception, in fact my God abhors deceit.<br> 16 These six things doth the hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him: 17 A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood, 18 An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief, 19 A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren. Salaam,Caringheart Caringheart, in your post above you suggest you believe in God and what God teaches. On the same thread not too long ago you have said these words:"I have said before that I do not believe in religion. Religion is a thing of man." How come, you say you do not believe in religion and you say it is man made and now you are preaching, religion. Why this hypocrisy? Hasan Greetings Hasan, You confuse me. How is it that you think I am 'preaching religion'? Because I profess faith in God and in His Word? This is not the same as religion. Man creates religion by building structure around God's Word, but God and His Word, live in the heart, not in these structures, and strictures, of man. Salaam, Caringheart Edited by Caringheart - 12 February 2013 at 2:45pm
	Let us seek Truth together Blessed be God forever
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lydiaparkes52 Starter. Joined: 13 February 2013 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1	Posted: 13 February 2013 at 7:14am
	I do believe that no matter what is your religion, it you yourself can save you... There could be so many forms of GODS, but what matters most is believing. DOING things that are good for the people, serving and helping others, loving one another... THERE is no such religion that could tell that only they/followers of that religion will only be the ones to be save at the end of the world, NO. The ones who will be save are the ones that lives a life just as GOD wants us to be....
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Rational Senior Member Joined: 28 December 2012 Online Status: Offline Posts: 181	Posted: 14 February 2013 at 3:39am
	*Originally posted by lydiaparkes52* I do believe that no matter what is your religion, it you yourself can save you... There could be so many forms of GODS, but what matters most is believing. DOING things that are good for the people, serving and helping others, loving one another... THERE is no such religion that could tell that only they/followers of that religion will only be the ones to be save at the end of the world, NO. The ones who will be save are the ones that lives a life just as GOD wants us to be.... You're wrong. Stop being naive. Stop thinking you know everything. You don't! Allah has given us the way. Go seek it, Go read the Quran. What are you loosing?
	الله
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Abu Loren Male Islam Senior Member Joined: 29 June 2012 Location: United Arab Emirates Online Status: Offline Posts: 568	Posted: 14 February 2013 at 9:17am
	*Originally posted by lydiaparkes52* I do believe that no matter what is your religion, it you yourself can save you... There could be so many forms of GODS, but what matters most is believing. DOING things that are good for the people, serving and helping others, loving one another... THERE is no such religion that could tell that only they/followers of that religion will only be the ones to be save at the end of the world, NO. The ones who will be save are the ones that lives a life just as GOD wants us to be.... Salaam, What you write here is probably perfect for a peace loving, drug inducing, hippy community. But the truth of the matter is that the Holy Qur'an is the Criterion Al Furqan with which everything is measured. There is only ONE God and He wants to be worshipped in a certain way that He has ordained with His laws and rules. Anything outside of this is sin.
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honeto Senior Member Joined: 20 March 2008 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2340	Posted: 14 February 2013 at 12:25pm
	*Originally posted by Caringheart* *Originally posted by honeto* *Originally posted by Caringheart* Greetings Hasan,No worries, but thanks for you concern.I think you did not see my reply to Rational.and just to note, I certainly am not seeking to deceive anyone. Are you? I don't believe that you are. My God does not teach deception, in fact my God abhors deceit.<br> 16 These six things doth the hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him: 17 A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood, 18 An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief, 19 A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren. Salaam,Caringheart Caringheart, in your post above you suggest you believe in God and what God teaches. On the same thread not too long ago you have said these words:"I have said before that I do not believe in religion. Religion is a thing of man." How come, you say you do not believe in religion and you say it is man made and now you are preaching, religion. Why this hypocrisy? Hasan Greetings Hasan,You confuse me. How is it that you think I am 'preaching religion'? Because I profess faith in God and in His Word? This is not the same as religion. Man creates religion by building structure around God's Word, but God and His Word, live in the heart, not in these structures, and strictures, of man.Salaam,Caringheart CAringheart, so now you are going to blame your hypocrisy on me too. On one side you say, religion is man made and on the other hand you say, Jesus, holy spirit and God are equal, and you use the Bible as your source which is claimed to be from God, and it's follower call it a religious book. And then you want to tell me that you do not believe or preach religion? May God have mercy on you, take heed before it's too late friend. Don't pretend you have lost your mind, God only will not hold accountable those who are really insane. "One Day will the Hypocrites- men and women - say to the Believers: "Wait for us! Let us borrow (a Light) from your Light!" It will be said: "Turn ye back to your rear! then seek a Light (where ye can)!" So a wall will be put up betwixt them, with a gate therein. Within it will be Mercy throughout, and without it, all alongside, will be (Wrath and) Punishment!"57:13 Hasan Edited by honeto - 14 February 2013 at 12:26pm
	39:64 Proclaim: Is it some one other than God that you order me to worship, O you ignorant ones?"
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