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Originally posted by Caringheart

Originally posted by Rational

السلام عليكم ورحمة الله وبركاته
Originally posted by Caringheart

I have said before that I do not believe in religion.  Religion is a thing of man.It's not the first time I hear this from a Christian. I just don't understand how you can be a Christian, believe in the Bible, wear the cross and at the same time, say you don't believe in religion and that it is a thing of man. What do you mean because this baffles me? 

I follow Jesus, and I do not believe Jesus was teaching religion.  In fact if anything, He taught against the organized religion of men.I believe in the Bible because it is clearly true.I also don't wear outward signs of my faith in my Lord.  My only outward sign of my faith is my own countenance.  Jesus criticized the pharisees for their outward show of piety, with their fancy dress, and their need to call attention to themselves.5 “Everything they do is done for people to see: They make their phylacteries wide and the tassels on their garments long..."

The message of Jesus was to follow God's laws and to love one another... to demonstrate the Love of God.  He wanted His good news to go out to all people, spread and told by ordinary people to others as they would meet them.  He taught us simply to be good to one another... that is what fulfills the laws of God.36 “Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?” 37 Jesus replied: “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’ 38 This is the first and greatest commandment. 39 And the second is like it: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’ 40 All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.”I follow Jesus and His Word.Men make rules and build structures.Does God live in a building?  or in our hearts?[IMG]smileys/smiley27.gif" align="absmiddle" alt="Heart" />

Caringheart,

I find you extremely confused and close to a breaking point. Please take care of yourself. Keep your focus and I will pray for you.

Hasan

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honeto Senior Member Joined: 20 March 2008 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2340	Posted: 28 January 2013 at 2:59pm
	*Originally posted by Caringheart* *Originally posted by Rational* السلام عليكم ورحمة الله وبركاته *Originally posted by Caringheart* I have said before that I do not believe in religion. Religion is a thing of man. It's not the first time I hear this from a Christian. I just don't understand how you can be a Christian, believe in the Bible, wear the cross and at the same time, say you don't believe in religion and that it is a thing of man. What do you mean because this baffles me? I follow Jesus, and I do not believe Jesus was teaching religion. In fact if anything, He taught against the organized religion of men.I believe in the Bible because it is clearly true.I also don't wear outward signs of my faith in my Lord. My only outward sign of my faith is my own countenance. Jesus criticized the pharisees for their outward show of piety, with their fancy dress, and their need to call attention to themselves. <span id="en-NIV-23924" ="text Matt-23-5"><span ="woj"><sup ="versenum">5 “Everything they do is done for people to see: They make their phylacteries wide and the tassels on their garments long..."</span></span> <span id="en-NIV-23924" ="text Matt-23-5"><span ="woj"></span></span><span id="en-NIV-23925" ="text Matt-23-6"><span ="woj"></span></span><span id="en-NIV-23926" ="text Matt-23-7"><span ="woj"></span></span> The message of Jesus was to follow God's laws and to love one another... to demonstrate the Love of God. He wanted His good news to go out to all people, spread and told by ordinary people to others as they would meet them. He taught us simply to be good to one another... that is what fulfills the laws of God. <span id="en-NIV-23909" ="text="" matt-22-36"=""><sup ="versenum"="">36 “Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?”</span> <span id="en-NIV-23910" ="text="" matt-22-37"=""><sup ="versenum"="">37 Jesus replied: <span ="woj"="">“‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’</span></span> <span id="en-NIV-23911" ="text="" matt-22-38"=""><span ="woj"=""><sup ="versenum"="">38 This is the first and greatest commandment.</span></span> <span id="en-NIV-23912" ="text="" matt-22-39"=""><span ="woj"=""><sup ="versenum"="">39 And the second is like it: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’</span></span> <span id="en-NIV-23913" ="text="" matt-22-40"=""><span ="woj"=""><sup ="versenum"="">40 All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.”I follow Jesus and His Word.Men make rules and build structures.Does God live in a building? or in our hearts?[IMG]smileys/smiley27.gif" align="absmiddle" alt="Heart" /></span></span> Caringheart, I find you extremely confused and close to a breaking point. Please take care of yourself. Keep your focus and I will pray for you. Hasan
	39:64 Proclaim: Is it some one other than God that you order me to worship, O you ignorant ones?"
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Caringheart Senior Member Joined: 02 March 2012 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1331	Posted: 28 January 2013 at 3:39pm
	Greetings Hasan, No worries, but thanks for you concern. I think you did not see my reply to Rational. and just to note, I certainly am not seeking to deceive anyone. Are you? I don't believe that you are. My God does not teach deception, in fact my God abhors deceit. ¹⁶These six things doth the Lord hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him: ¹⁷A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood, ¹⁸An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief, ¹⁹A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren. Salaam, Caringheart
	Let us seek Truth together Blessed be God forever
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honeto Senior Member Joined: 20 March 2008 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2340	Posted: 04 February 2013 at 3:18pm
	Caringheart, but then why do you say things like: "I have said before that I do not believe in religion. Religion is a thing of man." How can you say opposing things just not far from each other in time! May God have mercy on you. Hasan Edited by honeto - 04 February 2013 at 3:19pm
	39:64 Proclaim: Is it some one other than God that you order me to worship, O you ignorant ones?"
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Caringheart Senior Member Joined: 02 March 2012 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1331	Posted: 04 February 2013 at 7:41pm
	*Originally posted by honeto* Caringheart, but then why do you say things like: "I have said before that I do not believe in religion. Religion is a thing of man." How can you say opposing things just not far from each other in time! May God have mercy on you. Hasan Greetings Hasan, I don't understand your question. Salaam, Caringheart
	Let us seek Truth together Blessed be God forever
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nirvana Newbie Joined: 27 January 2013 Online Status: Offline Posts: 35	Posted: 05 February 2013 at 5:59am
	trinity? man's imagination has no boundaries. they can make anything up.
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Caringheart Senior Member Joined: 02 March 2012 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1331	Posted: 06 February 2013 at 9:33am
	*Originally posted by nirvana* trinity? man's imagination has no boundaries. they can make anything up. Greetings Nirvana, It comes from the things which Jesus Himself said, and which the Jews obviously took seriously since they took Him before the Roman courts to be tried and sentenced. Peace, or should I say namaste? Caringheart
	Let us seek Truth together Blessed be God forever
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nirvana Newbie Joined: 27 January 2013 Online Status: Offline Posts: 35	Posted: 07 February 2013 at 9:57am
	*Originally posted by Caringheart* *Originally posted by nirvana* trinity? man's imagination has no boundaries. they can make anything up. Greetings Nirvana,It comes from the things which Jesus Himself said, and which the Jews obviously took seriously since they took Him before the Roman courts to be tried and sentenced.Peace, or should I say namaste? [IMG]smileys/smiley1.gif" align="absmiddle" alt="Smile" />Caringheart what exactly did Jesus say that amounts to trinity?
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Rational Senior Member Joined: 28 December 2012 Online Status: Offline Posts: 181	Posted: 07 February 2013 at 11:50am
	*Originally posted by Caringheart* *Originally posted by nirvana* trinity? man's imagination has no boundaries. they can make anything up. Greetings Nirvana, It comes from the things which Jesus Himself said, and which the Jews obviously took seriously since they took Him before the Roman courts to be tried and sentenced. Peace, or should I say namaste? Caringheart Assalamo alaik Caringheart, So the Jews also believe in the trinity?
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