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Quote robin Replybullet Posted: 28 May 2008 at 1:03am
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We know Jesus was crucified. 
Jesus was on earth under the authority of GOD. 
A gift of love to us from GOD for our salvation. 
Jesus' death attones for our sins.
 
 
True.
 
As you say "under the authority of GOD" and a lesser being, as Jesus himself said:-
 
Matthew 28:18
And Jesus approached and spoke to them, saying: "All authority has been given me in heaven and on the earth.
 
The only person with greater authority and power than Jesus Christ in the universe is Jehovah God.


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Quote Nur_Ilahi Replybullet Posted: 28 May 2008 at 6:48am

To Believer n Robin,

I do believe that there was a crucifixion. And many people witnessed it.
But the big question is who was crucified?
 
 
an-Nisa' 4:157] That they said (in boast), "We killed Christ Jesus the son of Mary, the Apostle of God";- but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but so it was made to appear to them, and those who differ therein are full of doubts, with no (certain) knowledge, but only conjecture to follow, for of a surety they killed him not:-
[an-Nisa' 4:158] Nay, God raised him up unto Himself; and God is Exalted in Power, Wise;-
 
In other words, the image that can be found vastly in churches are the images of Judas, the man that betrayed Jesus.
Ilahi Anta Maksudi, Wa Redhaka Mathlubi - Oh Allah, You are my destination, Your Pleasure is my Intention.
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Quote believer Replybullet Posted: 29 May 2008 at 6:15am
LOL!  Nur- you are half way to the truth.  When you have a question because the Quran is not explicit then you must go back to the Gospel and Torah to get the whole story.
 
Friends and family of Jesus were at His crucifixion.  Another could not have been switched with Jesus.  The Quran doesn't say that.
 
That verse is easily explained because Jesus did not remain dead, crucified- He rose and sits with GOD to this day.   
 
Remember Jesus' soul never died!!  It is just His outer shell that ceased to live.
John 3
16"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.
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Quote honeto Replybullet Posted: 29 May 2008 at 1:07pm
believer,
you said it right:
"He rose and sits with GOD to this day. "
We do believe the same.  
 
You further say:
"Remember Jesus' soul never died!!  It is just His outer shell that ceased to live."
Correct, we all have a body and a soul like you mentioned Jesus did, the body dies, the soul lives on. On the day of Judgement, the body and the soul will be reunited as God will raise our physical bodies again.
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Edited by honeto - 29 May 2008 at 1:09pm
39:64 Proclaim: Is it some one other than God that you order me to worship, O you ignorant ones?"
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