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Quote truthnowcome Replybullet Posted: 22 March 2008 at 5:02pm
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1-  Mark 10:18 Jesus said “And Jesus said to him, ‘Why do you call me good? No one is good but God alone.”  AND Luke 18:19 Jesus said ""Why do you call me good?" Jesus answered. "No one is good—except God alone."

Does Jesus say I am not good?   NO!! He doesn't.  If you were to read this as  - WHY?!? do you call me good, you would see that Jesus is asking the man to think, what is good and WHY?

Jesus says:

John 10

11"I am the good shepherd. The good shepherd lays down his life for the sheep.

You splicing to make your point. Let's read it in context:

 Mark 10:17-18 And when he was gone forth into the way, there came one running, and kneeled to him, and asked him, Good Master, what shall I do that I may inherit eternal life?

You see, he adresses Jesus (S) as "Good Master" and he denied being good in the next verse: 

18And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God.

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2-  John 14:28 Jesus said "My Father (GOD) is greater than I"

Here in nature the Father is more great and Jesus (S) is less great!

Hebrews 2

9But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels, now crowned with glory and honor because he suffered death, so that by the grace of God he might taste death for everyone.

That contradicted the (H20)

 

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 Philippians 2 

 5Your attitude should be the same as that of Christ Jesus:
 6Who, being in very nature God,
      did not consider equality with God something to be grasped,
 7but made himself nothing,
      taking the very nature of a servant,
      being made in human likeness.
 8And being found in appearance as a man,
      he humbled himself
      and became obedient to death—
         even death on a cross!

What nature you are talking about? When he don't have devine knowledge on the hour?

 

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 3-  John 8:28 Jesus said "I do nothing of myself"

Here he is powerless but God Almighty is all powreful!

The Father, Son and Holy Spirit work together in unity as the One True GOD.  One is not greater then the other or greater then GOD by Themselves.

You are contradicting youe self! If the The Father, Son and Holy Spirit work together in unity as the One True GOD. What happen here:  Matthew 24:36 Jesus said "No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father."

What happen to the "unity"?

This is your answer conveniently:

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 4-  Matthew 24:36 Jesus said "No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father."

Remember Jesus has 2 natures.  His human nature would not be all knowing.

So what happen to the "H20" Nature?

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Quote honeto Replybullet Posted: 22 March 2008 at 5:14pm

Hi believer,

after reading what you keep writing here and there on this board, I suggest you change your name to "disbeliever". You seem to deny every proof and truth shown to you.

It is ridiculas to say that until Jesus' time God was not fully known or understood to all of those prophets of God.

Accept the truth before you are struck by it. Be a true believer, or just change your name.

Gracias

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39:64 Proclaim: Is it some one other than God that you order me to worship, O you ignorant ones?"
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Quote Andalus Replybullet Posted: 22 March 2008 at 6:07pm
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Likewise the two forms of light, wave and particle, suggest analogies with the two natures, divine and human, of Jesus; these are equally real and simultaneously operative, and yet we cannot fully focus on both at the same time.

Quick note: The notion that light has wave like and particle like behavior does not mean that it is both wave and particle. The consensus by such greats as the late Richard Feynman (spelling) conclude it is a particle. These trinity analogies are great for those who already believe and they entertain the masses at a sunday sermon, but they hold no real value in the arena of discourse.

"light has wave like and particle like behavior does not mean that it is both wave and particle."

  You have miss understand this phrase " wave and particle like behaviorthat is a descriptive phrase or we can say "two attributes" wave like behavior and particle like behavior” also it a way to describe light "as particles".

  Let me give you an example: If we say “God” is has no power without the attributes: like God the Almighty the all powerful, the all wise and so on; it is ways to describe God Almighty. If you don’t know the attributes it is just a word.

tnc

I am not following your point Br. Perhaps you have misunderstood my point? I was simply pointing out that the Christian was misusing the idea of wave/particle duality, which does not actually mean that light is both wave and particle. The consensus is that it is a particle. That is my only point.

 

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Quote truthnowcome Replybullet Posted: 23 March 2008 at 2:15am
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Likewise the two forms of light, wave and particle, suggest analogies with the two natures, divine and human, of Jesus; these are equally real and simultaneously operative, and yet we cannot fully focus on both at the same time.

Quick note: The notion that light has wave like and particle like behavior does not mean that it is both wave and particle. The consensus by such greats as the late Richard Feynman (spelling) conclude it is a particle. These trinity analogies are great for those who already believe and they entertain the masses at a sunday sermon, but they hold no real value in the arena of discourse.

"light has wave like and particle like behavior does not mean that it is both wave and particle."

  You have miss understand this phrase " wave and particle like behaviorthat is a descriptive phrase or we can say "two attributes" wave like behavior and particle like behavior” also it a way to describe light "as particles".

  Let me give you an example: If we say “God” is has no power without the attributes: like God the Almighty the all powerful, the all wise and so on; it is ways to describe God Almighty. If you don’t know the attributes it is just a word.

tnc

I am not following your point Br. Perhaps you have misunderstood my point? I was simply pointing out that the Christian was misusing the idea of wave/particle duality, which does not actually mean that light is both wave and particle. The consensus is that it is a particle. That is my only point.

 

Salaam! I am sorry Br. I sure did misunderstood you.

Wasalaam!

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