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Derukugi

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Posted: 18 July 2005 at 6:48am

Hi,
new user here. I am here to to learn.
First observation after scanning this thread: Midway is a troll.

Secondly, a question to "Ali Zakir":

You write: how can you support someone who targets innocent people (such as 100+ Muslims that were killed on 9/11) and encourages his followers to murder other Muslims (Shia).

Can you explain what you do mean by that? Are you saying that only the muslims were innocent? And that is OK to encourage his followers to kill others than muslims?
Please explain. Thanks

---peace
Derukugi

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rocitreal

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Posted: 20 July 2005 at 9:16pm

midway, dude you are they type of guy making the rest of these nice peaceful muslim people look like crazy nuts to many people in the world. Im glad to see so many muslims jump his case but im afraid thats not enough. I have contacted the US homeland security about this post and they are tracing the IP address as we speak. You better go hide in a cave and get out of the UK.

maybe you could make it easyer to find you, do you live in Leads ?

there is a bed at Guantanomo for this nut... if not they will make room! Noah, how did you get out of having to go ??? the Nazi's accually let you go without harm... doesnt sound like any Nazi's i ever heard of. Do they have ovens at Guatanomo that i dont know about ? are prisoners misteriously disapearing ? is there a dust cloud with a smoke stack someplace on the base ?

By the way, why would you live in a country you hate ??? get out, go live in a cave... your exactly the type person the good muslims need to get out of there religion.

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Peace, its more than a word its a dream.

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jibreel

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Posted: 20 July 2005 at 9:31pm

Assalamo Alaikum,

You know the fact is that during the second world war, the U.S. claims no
one knew about jews in ovens.

This war also has dirty secrets, and one of the most important vitalities of
any country in the west is its public, and the public makes the goverment
an is responsible for it,

So if they have war criminals running the country and for one example
"covering up" and hiding there operations in afganastan the last 25+
years, the public should know the truth, but what if jesiwish media is
responsible for th cover ups?

Then you must fight by any means if you will die anyway.

We forget the condition the U.S. has caused on un armed countries, the
murder capitol of the world is Capitol Hill.

I am not saying go kill innocent people, what i am saying is that these
things are happening because someone is trying to tell the public
something, have you never heard OBL saying that the Jews control the
media and did not let you know about innocent people been killed in
Afghanistan, and that he is a CIA operative himself with a group called
"the eastern alliance"

Well i believe things will get worse, and i mean that the public itself will
get restless about this and attack there goverment because of the kind of
world they drive now, and its allready started.

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rocitreal

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Posted: 20 July 2005 at 9:50pm

Originally posted by jibreel

Assalamo Alaikum,

You know the fact is that during the second world war, the U.S. claims no
one knew about jews in ovens.

what can your point be here ??? the Nazi's obviously made it a secret but even if they new, they were fighting to free and save the people. I dont see your point here, what i see is another borderline extremist. are you trying to say the US killed the jews ??

Peace, its more than a word its a dream.

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jibreel

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Posted: 21 July 2005 at 2:53am

Peace

:), I am sure that Everyone is a border line extremist to you, how many
americans can you call border line extremists for not agreeing with you
then?

Is it not extremist to have a intolerant attitude towards others who
disagree with you?

Obviously was no secret at all today that the U.S. public never knew what
there government was up to, just like Vietnam.. but the officials did know
and they where Hitler's number one supporters.. Prescot Bush the
grandfather of this president even banked in on it.

Sure the germans killed Jews, yeah right, who supported it though?
I believe a accomplice is also guilty, it was obvious no gold was found in
germany when Hitler went to the swiss banks with it, come on and give us
a break here, i know many germans who say the U.S. knew and used
HItler.

Can you see it al clear enough yet or are you one of those people who
actually can not tell that patriotism was allways formerly know as nazism
and nationalism?

You want to support a democracy over seas, that is called Nazism=
national expansion.
NAZISM---The ideology and practice of the Nazis, especially the policy of
racist nationalism, national expansion, and state control of the
economy.

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Amir

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Posted: 21 July 2005 at 4:22am

“I have contacted the US homeland security about this post and they are tracing the IP address as we speak. You better go hide in a cave and get out of the UK.”

Gosh, I’m really scared!

Yes that’s (my parents house) - 67 Wensley Road, Leeds, LS7 2LS, West Yorkshire, U.K.

“By the way, why would you live in a country you hate ??? get out, go live in a cave... your exactly the type person the good muslims need to get out of there religion.”

Your oppressive attitude toward me has meant that I have never even been part of ‘your’ community, by rejecting people without even discussing their ideology; you are creating the very people to which you then disagree.

It is Allah’s predestined decree - where & when a person will die!

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jibreel

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Posted: 21 July 2005 at 4:32am

Peace

Homeland or duetchland security, why did the U.S. decide to do what Nazi
Germany did by giving people no voice to speak out against there policies
after they paid there taxes?

Fascists indeed.
Another Xenophobe Gestapo Scene

Allah did not create america, people did and by the way its called a State
like the State of mexico,

Also i am learning that allot of poeple in america call non americans
jealous are all duped by there own delusions, just because these people
believe that money, fame, status is makes them better people does not
mean others do?

The whole struggle at the Ka'baa during the prophets time was exactly
between muslims and these supersticious materialistic loosers who need
things to use as a way of saying something about themselves., but all
they say is that they are lost.

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rocitreal

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Posted: 21 July 2005 at 10:13am

Originally posted by Amir

“I have contacted the US homeland security about this post and they are tracing the IP address as we speak. You better go hide in a cave and get out of the UK.”

Gosh, I’m really scared!

Yes that’s (my parents house) - 67 Wensley Road, Leeds, LS7 2LS, West Yorkshire, U.K.

Are you Midway ??? why are you repling to comments directed to midway ???

“By the way, why would you live in a country you hate ??? get out, go live in a cave... your exactly the type person the good muslims need to get out of there religion.”

Again, are you Midway ?

It is Allah’s predestined decree - where & when a person will die!

Peace, its more than a word its a dream.

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Derukugi Starter Joined: 18 July 2005 Location: Germany Online Status: Offline Posts: 3	Posted: 18 July 2005 at 6:48am
	Hi, new user here. I am here to to learn. First observation after scanning this thread: Midway is a troll. Secondly, a question to "Ali Zakir": You write: how can you support someone who targets innocent people (such as 100+ Muslims that were killed on 9/11) and encourages his followers to murder other Muslims (Shia). Can you explain what you do mean by that? Are you saying that only the muslims were innocent? And that is OK to encourage his followers to kill others than muslims? Please explain. Thanks
	---peace Derukugi
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rocitreal Groupie Joined: 15 July 2005 Location: United States Online Status: Offline Posts: 80	Posted: 20 July 2005 at 9:16pm
	midway, dude you are they type of guy making the rest of these nice peaceful muslim people look like crazy nuts to many people in the world. Im glad to see so many muslims jump his case but im afraid thats not enough. I have contacted the US homeland security about this post and they are tracing the IP address as we speak. You better go hide in a cave and get out of the UK. maybe you could make it easyer to find you, do you live in Leads ? there is a bed at Guantanomo for this nut... if not they will make room! Noah, how did you get out of having to go ??? the Nazi's accually let you go without harm... doesnt sound like any Nazi's i ever heard of. Do they have ovens at Guatanomo that i dont know about ? are prisoners misteriously disapearing ? is there a dust cloud with a smoke stack someplace on the base ? By the way, why would you live in a country you hate ??? get out, go live in a cave... your exactly the type person the good muslims need to get out of there religion. Edited by rocitreal
	Peace, its more than a word its a dream.
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jibreel Senior Member Joined: 20 July 2005 Location: Spain Online Status: Offline Posts: 263	Posted: 20 July 2005 at 9:31pm
	Assalamo Alaikum, You know the fact is that during the second world war, the U.S. claims no one knew about jews in ovens. This war also has dirty secrets, and one of the most important vitalities of any country in the west is its public, and the public makes the goverment an is responsible for it, So if they have war criminals running the country and for one example "covering up" and hiding there operations in afganastan the last 25+ years, the public should know the truth, but what if jesiwish media is responsible for th cover ups? Then you must fight by any means if you will die anyway. We forget the condition the U.S. has caused on un armed countries, the murder capitol of the world is Capitol Hill. I am not saying go kill innocent people, what i am saying is that these things are happening because someone is trying to tell the public something, have you never heard OBL saying that the Jews control the media and did not let you know about innocent people been killed in Afghanistan, and that he is a CIA operative himself with a group called "the eastern alliance" Well i believe things will get worse, and i mean that the public itself will get restless about this and attack there goverment because of the kind of world they drive now, and its allready started.
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rocitreal Groupie Joined: 15 July 2005 Location: United States Online Status: Offline Posts: 80	Posted: 20 July 2005 at 9:50pm
	*Originally posted by jibreel* Assalamo Alaikum, You know the fact is that during the second world war, the U.S. claims no one knew about jews in ovens. what can your point be here ??? the Nazi's obviously made it a secret but even if they new, they were fighting to free and save the people. I dont see your point here, what i see is another borderline extremist. are you trying to say the US killed the jews ??
	Peace, its more than a word its a dream.
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jibreel Senior Member Joined: 20 July 2005 Location: Spain Online Status: Offline Posts: 263	Posted: 21 July 2005 at 2:53am
	Peace :), I am sure that Everyone is a border line extremist to you, how many americans can you call border line extremists for not agreeing with you then? Is it not extremist to have a intolerant attitude towards others who disagree with you? Obviously was no secret at all today that the U.S. public never knew what there government was up to, just like Vietnam.. but the officials did know and they where Hitler's number one supporters.. Prescot Bush the grandfather of this president even banked in on it. Sure the germans killed Jews, yeah right, who supported it though? I believe a accomplice is also guilty, it was obvious no gold was found in germany when Hitler went to the swiss banks with it, come on and give us a break here, i know many germans who say the U.S. knew and used HItler. Can you see it al clear enough yet or are you one of those people who actually can not tell that patriotism was allways formerly know as nazism and nationalism? You want to support a democracy over seas, that is called Nazism= national expansion. NAZISM---The ideology and practice of the Nazis, especially the policy of racist nationalism, national expansion, and state control of the economy. Edited by jibreel
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Amir Newbie Joined: 19 July 2005 Online Status: Offline Posts: 7	Posted: 21 July 2005 at 4:22am
	*“I have contacted the US homeland security about this post and they are tracing the IP address as we speak. You better go hide in a cave and get out of the UK.”* Gosh, I’m really scared! Yes that’s (my parents house) - 67 Wensley Road, Leeds, LS7 2LS, West Yorkshire, U.K. “By the way, why would you live in a country you hate ??? get out, go live in a cave... your exactly the type person the good muslims need to get out of there religion.” Your oppressive attitude toward me has meant that I have never even been part of ‘your’ community, by rejecting people without even discussing their ideology; you are creating the very people to which you then disagree. It is Allah’s predestined decree - where & when a person will die!
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jibreel Senior Member Joined: 20 July 2005 Location: Spain Online Status: Offline Posts: 263	Posted: 21 July 2005 at 4:32am
	Peace Homeland or duetchland security, why did the U.S. decide to do what Nazi Germany did by giving people no voice to speak out against there policies after they paid there taxes? Fascists indeed. Another Xenophobe Gestapo Scene Allah did not create america, people did and by the way its called a State like the State of mexico, Also i am learning that allot of poeple in america call non americans jealous are all duped by there own delusions, just because these people believe that money, fame, status is makes them better people does not mean others do? The whole struggle at the Ka'baa during the prophets time was exactly between muslims and these supersticious materialistic loosers who need things to use as a way of saying something about themselves., but all they say is that they are lost. Edited by jibreel
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rocitreal Groupie Joined: 15 July 2005 Location: United States Online Status: Offline Posts: 80	Posted: 21 July 2005 at 10:13am
	*Originally posted by Amir* *“I have contacted the US homeland security about this post and they are tracing the IP address as we speak. You better go hide in a cave and get out of the UK.”* Gosh, I’m really scared! Yes that’s (my parents house) - 67 Wensley Road, Leeds, LS7 2LS, West Yorkshire, U.K. Are you Midway ??? why are you repling to comments directed to midway ??? “By the way, why would you live in a country you hate ??? get out, go live in a cave... your exactly the type person the good muslims need to get out of there religion.” Your oppressive attitude toward me has meant that I have never even been part of ‘your’ community, by rejecting people without even discussing their ideology; you are creating the very people to which you then disagree. Again, are you Midway ? It is Allah’s predestined decree - where & when a person will die!
	Peace, its more than a word its a dream.
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