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Quote truthnowcome Replybullet Posted: 15 September 2008 at 7:36pm

Originally posted by robin

  However, there is salvation for individuals who exercise faith. (Read Isaiah 29:17-24; compare Luke 7:22.) “Deaf ones” will “hear the words of the book,” the message from God’s Word. Yes, this is not a healing of physical deafness. It is a spiritual healing. Isaiah once again points forward to the establishment of the Messianic Kingdom and the restoration of true worship on earth by the Messiah’s rule. This has taken place in our time, and millions of sincere ones are allowing themselves to be corrected by Jehovah and are learning to praise him. What a thrilling fulfillment! Ultimately, the day will come when everyone, every breathing thing, will praise Jehovah and sanctify his holy name.—Psalm 150:6. 

 

Sure the “Deaf ones” will “hear the word of the (Seal) book!”

 

  I do hope Inshallah (God willing) the message reach home! Quotes from the Qur’an, Allah (S) said in Qur’an:

 

Qur’an 61:6-9

 

6. And (remember) when 'Iesa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary), said: "O Children of Israel! I am the Messenger of Allâh unto you confirming the Taurât [(Torah) which came] before me, and giving glad tidings of a Messenger to come after me, whose name shall be Ahmed . But when he (Ahmed i.e. Muhammad ) came to them with clear proofs, they said: "This is plain magic."

 

7. And who does more wrong than the one who invents a lie against Allâh while he is being invited to Islâm? And Allâh guides not the people who are, Zâliműn (polytheists, wrong-doers and disbelievers) folk.

 

8. They intend to put out the Light of Allâh (i.e. the religion of Islâm, this Qur'ân, and Prophet Muhammad ) with their mouths. But Allâh will complete His Light even though the disbelievers hate (it).

 

9. He it is Who has sent His Messenger (Muhammad ) with guidance and the religion of truth (Islâmic Monotheism) to make it victorious over all (other) religions even though the Mushrikűn (polytheists, pagans, idolaters, and disbelievers in the Oneness of Allâh and in His Messenger Muhammed ) hate (it).

 

 Your Companion is neither astray nor being misled of (his own) desire. It is no les than inspiration sent down to him: He was taught by one Mighty in Power. (Q.53:2-5)

 From those, too, who called themselves Christians We did take a Covenant, But they forgot a good part of the message that was sent down: So We stirred up enmity and hatred between the one and the other, to the Day of Judgment. And soon will Allah show them what it is they have done. (Q.5:14)

O ye People of the Book! Believe in what We have (now) revealed, conforming what was (already) with you… (Q.4:47)

 None of Our revelations do We abrogate or cause to be forgotten, but We substitute something better or similar: knowest thou not Allah hath power over all things?  (Q.2:106

   O People of the Book! There hath come to you our Messenger, revealing to you much that you used to hide in your Book, and passing over much (that is now unnecessary): There hath come to you from Allah a light [Muhamed (pbuh)] and a perspicuous Book. (Q.5:15)

 …So fear Allah, and obey me [Muhamed {S} and the message he brought]. (Q.3:50)

 Verily this Qur’an doith guide to that which is most right. (Q.17:9)

 

 …And nearest among them in love to the Believers wilt thou find those who say, “We are Christians” Because among these are men devoted to learning and who have renounced the world, and they are not arrogant. (Q.5:82)

 Invite (all) to the way of thy Lord with wisdom and beautiful preaching; and argue with them in ways that are best and most gracious: For thy Lord knoweth best, who have strayed from His path, and who receive guidance. (Q.16:125)

 And those who are firmly grounded with knowledge say: “We believe in it (the Qur’an); the whole of it (clear and unclear verses) are from our Lord:” and none will grasp the message except men of understanding. (Q.3:7)

 The Religion before Allah is Islam (submission to His Will)…But if you deny the Signs of Allah, Allah is swift in calling to account. (Q.3:19)

 If anyone desires a religion other than Islam (submission to Allah), never will it be accepted of him; and in the Hereafter he will be in the ranks of those who have lost (All spiritual good). (Q.3:85)

 …And say to the People of the Book…“Do ye (also) submit yourselves?” If they do, they are in right guidance, but if they turn back, thy duty is to convey the Message; and in Allah’s sight are (all) His servants. (Q.3:20)

 Not all of them are alike: Of the People of the Book is a portion that stand (for the right)…they rehearse the Sign of Allah all night long… (Q.3:113)

 Narrated Abu Burdah’s father: Allah’s Messenger (S) said, “…if any man of the people of the Scriptures (Jews and Christians) believes in his own Prophet and then believes in me [Muhamed (pbuh)] too, he will (also) get a double reward… [Sahih Al Bukari, 7/5083 (O.P.20)]                                                                            

  The day that certain of the signs of thy Lord do come, no good will it do to a soul to believe in them then, if it believed not before nor earned righteousness through its Faith. (Q.6:158)

 Narrated Abu Hurairah {R}: Allah’s Messenger (pbuh) said, “The Hour will not be established until the sun rises from the west; and when the people see it, then whoever will be living on the surface of the earth, will have faith, and that is (the time) when no good will it do to a person to believe then, if he believed not before.” [Sahih Al-Bukhari, 6/4635 (O.P.159)]

 (Q.39:53-54)  Say: "O my Servants who have transgressed against their souls! Despair not of the Mercy of God: for God forgives all sins: for He is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful. (39:054) "Turn ye to our Lord (in repentance) and bow to His (Will), before the Penalty comes on you: after that ye shall not be helped.

 …Truth has (now) come, and falsehood perished: for falsehood is (by its nature) bound to perish. (Q.17:81)

 

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Quote truthnowcome Replybullet Posted: 22 September 2008 at 12:07am

Originally posted by robin

  However, there is salvation for individuals who exercise faith. (Read Isaiah 29:17-24; compare Luke 7:22.) “Deaf ones” will “hear the words of the book,” the message from God’s Word. Yes, this is not a healing of physical deafness. It is a spiritual healing. Isaiah once again points forward to the establishment of the Messianic Kingdom and the restoration of true worship on earth by the Messiah’s rule. This has taken place in our time, and millions of sincere ones are allowing themselves to be corrected by Jehovah and are learning to praise him. What a thrilling fulfillment! Ultimately, the day will come when everyone, every breathing thing, will praise Jehovah and sanctify his holy name.—Psalm 150:6. 

 
 With the coming of the Qur'an!
 
 

 This is what the Bible book of Daniel’s says:

Daniel 12:4 But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased.

 

Daniel12: 9 And he said, Go thy way, Daniel: for the words are closed up and sealed till the time of the end.

 

Daniel12:10 Many shall be purified, and made white, and tried; but the wicked shall do wickedly: and none of the wicked shall understand; but the wise shall understand.

 

Coming of that “seal book” that mentioned in Revelation 10 is the “key” to unlock all the scriptures at the end time.

 (Rev.10:7)-But in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he shall “begin to sound:” the mystery of God should finish” as he declared to his servants the prophets. (Rev.10:7)

  In the days when this little book shall revealall the mystery (all the truth) of God will finish (revealed).” The book was never written according to John: “seal up those things…and write them not.”

All the truth with the coming of the Qur’an:

Qur’an 16:89 … And We have sent down to you the Book (the Qur'an) as an exposition of everything, a guidance, a mercy, and glad tidings for those who have submitted themselves (to Allâh as Muslims).

  He (S) was the illiterate Messenger that mentioned in the bible: Those who fallow the Messenger, the unlettered Prophet, whom they fiend mention in their own (Scriptures), In the Taurat (Torah) and the Injeel (Gospel). (Q.7:157).

Qur’an 29:48-49. Neither did you (O Muhammad ) read any book before it (this Qur'ân), nor did you write any book (whatsoever) with your right hand. In that case, indeed, the followers of falsehood might have doubted.

 

49.Nay, but they, the clear Ayât [i.e the description and the qualities of Prophet Muhammad  written like verses in the Taurât (Torah) and the Injeel (Gospel)] are preserved in the breasts of those who have been given knowledge (from the people of the Scriptures). And none but the Zâliműn (polytheists and wrongdoers, etc.) deny Our Ayât (proofs, evidences, verses, lessons, signs, revelations, etc.).

 

 

 

 

Link: Miracles of the Qur'an - Modern Science Reveals New Miracles of the Qur'an

 Allah (S) says in the Quran: "Verily in that are Signs for those who are wise.”
[Al-Qur’an 30:24]

  The likeness of those who take Auliyâ' (protectors and helpers) other than Allâh is as the likeness of a spider, who builds (for itself) a house, but verily, the frailest (weakest) of houses is the spider's house; if they but knew.

42. Verily, Allâh knows what things they invoke instead of Him. He is the All-Mighty, the All-Wise.

43. And these similitudes We put forward for mankind, but none will understand them except those who have knowledge (of Allâh and His Signs, etc.). Qur’an 29:41-43.

 

Revelation 16:10 And the fifth angel poured out his vial upon the seat of the beast; and his kingdom was full of darkness; and they gnawed their tongues for pain,

 

   Therefore, behold, I will proceed to do a marvelous work among this people, even a marvelous work and wonder: for the wisdom of their wise men shall perish, and the understanding of their prudent men shall be hid. (Isaiah29:14)

 

 Daniel 12:10 Many shall be purified, and made white, and tried; but the wicked shall do wickedly: and none of the wicked shall understand; but the wise shall understand.

 

 

 
Qur’an 59:21-24.  Had We sent down this Qur'ân on a mountain, you would surely have seen it humbling itself and rending asunder by the fear of Allâh. Such are the parables which We put forward to mankind that they may reflect .

 

22. He is Allâh, than Whom there is Lâ ilâha illa Huwa (none has the right to be worshipped but He) the All-Knower of the unseen and the seen (open). He is the Most Beneficent, the Most Merciful.

 

23. He is Allâh than Whom there is Lâ ilâha illa Huwa (none has the right to be worshipped but He) the King, the Holy, the One Free from all defects, the Giver of security, the Watcher over His creatures, the All-Mighty, the Compeller, the Supreme. Glory be to Allâh! (High is He) above all that they associate as partners with Him.

 

24. He is Allâh, the Creator, the Inventor of all things, the Bestower of forms. To Him belong the Best Names . All that is in the heavens and the earth glorify Him. And He is the All-Mighty, the All-Wise.

 

 

  O ye People of the Book! Believe in what We have (now) revealed, conforming what was (already) with you… (Q.4:47)

   …So fear Allah, and obey me [Muhamed (pbuh)] his message he brought]. (N.Q.3:50)

   And glorify Him (Allah) morning and evening. (Q.33:42)

   Verily this Qur’an doth guide to that which is most right… (Q17:9)

   When he, the Sprit of Truth (the Comforter), is come, he will guide you into all truth. (John.16:13)

 …Truth has (now) come, and falsehood perished: for falsehood is (by its nature) bound to perish. (Q.17:81)

 

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Quote truthnowcome Replybullet Posted: 24 September 2008 at 12:24am

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   When he, the Sprit of Truth (the Comforter), is come, he will guide you into all truth. (John.16:13)

 …Truth has (now) come, and falsehood perished: for falsehood is (by its nature) bound to perish. (Q.17:81)

Salaam to all!

Hello my friend Robin! I guess this stuff is too heavy for you! I have up dated “who is the Comforter” which I will release as the days progresses Inshallah (If is Allah's (S) wills), beginning with “What is or who is the Holy Spirit”  

  In Qur’an Allah (S) commanded the prophet (S) true Gabriel: “Say: Whoever is an enemy to Gabriel-for he brings down the (revelation) to thy heart by Allah's will, a confirmation of what went before, and guidance and glad tidings for those who believe,-“ (Qur’an 2:9)

Qul man kana AAaduwwan lijibreela fainnahu nazzalahu AAala qalbika biithni Allahi musaddiqan lima bayna yadayhi wahudan wabushra lilmumineena

  Who brought the revelation? Gabriel (S)! In the verse below Gabriel (S) was call the “Holy Spirit”: “Say, the Holy Spirit has brought the revelation from thy Lord in Truth, in order to strengthen those who believe, and as a Guide and Glad Tidings to Muslims. (Qur’an16:102)

Qul nazzalahu roohu alqudusi min rabbika bialhaqqi liyuthabbita allatheena amanoo wahudan wabushra lilmuslimeena

The word used there for “Holy Spirit” is roohu alqudus”

 

  The bible says the same thing: Luke 1:26-27 And in the sixth month the angel Gabriel was sent from God unto a city of Galilee, named Nazareth,  27To a virgin espoused to a man whose name was Joseph, of the house of David; and the virgin's name was Mary.

Matthew 1:18 Now the birth of Jesus Christ was on this wise: When as his mother Mary was espoused to Joseph, before they came together, she was found with child of the Holy Ghost.

Gabriel (S) is the “Holy Ghost” and the Holy Ghost is the “Holy Spirit”.

 

 In the Greek Septuagint O.T. (LXX) pneuma (spirit), in Hebrew Ruah (Spirit) and in Arabic Rooh (Spirit).

 

  However, there is a difference between “Rooh-alqudus’ and the “Rooh”. The word “Rooh” translated as “Spirit” where else the word “Rooh-alqudus” translates as “Holy Spirit” in the Qur’an and always refers to Gabriel (S) as I have explained above in Qur’an 2:9 and 16:102.

  Here it says in Matthew 1:20 But while he thought on these things, behold, the angel of the LORD appeared unto him in a dream, saying, Joseph, thou son of David, fear not to take unto thee Mary thy wife: for that which is conceived in her is of the Holy Ghost.

 In Qur’an it says: “And (remember) her who guarded her chastity: We breathed into her of Our spirit, and We made her and her son a sign for all peoples”.

Waallatee ahsanat farjaha fanafakhna feeha min roohina wajaAAalnaha waibnaha ayatan lilAAalameena (Qur’an 21:91)

 Here also: “And Mary the daughter of 'Imran, who guarded her chastity; and We breathed into (her body) of Our spirit; and she testified to the truth of the words of her Lord and of His Revelations, and was one of the devout (servants).” (Qur’an 66:12)

Wamaryama ibnata AAimrana allatee ahsanat farjaha fanafakhna feehi min roohina wasaddaqat bikalimati rabbiha wakutubihi wakanat mina alqaniteena

 

  Jesus (S) was described as a Spirit proceeding from Allah (Ruhun minhu): “…Christ Jesus the son of Mary was (no more than) a Messenger of Allah and His word (BE), which He bestowed on Mary, and a Spirit proceeding from Him (Roohun minhu)(Q.4:171)     

Ya ahla alkitabi la taghloo fee deenikum wala taqooloo AAala Allahi illa alhaqqa innama almaseehu AAeesa ibnu maryama rasoolu Allahi wakalimatuhu alqaha ila maryama waroohun minhu

  In this verse Gabriel (S) was addressed as Rooh: She placed a screen (to screen herself) from them; then We sent her our angel, and he appeared before her as a man in all respects. (Qur’an 19:17)

Faittakhathat min doonihim hijaban faarsalna ilayha roohana fatamaththala laha basharan sawiyyan

 

  Nevertheless, it is very clear that Allah (S) has breathed his Spirit (min-Rooh) into Mary (S) by way of Gabriel (S). Allah (S) did no breath Gabriel (S) into her. Same thing happen at the creation of man: But He fashioned him in due proportion, and breathed into him something of His spirit. And He gave you (the faculties of) hearing and sight and feeling (and understanding): little thanks do ye give! (Qur’an 32:9)

Thumma sawwahu wanafakha feehi min roohihi wajaAAala lakumu alssamAAa waalabsara waalafidata qaleelan ma tashkuroona

 Also here, He Allah (S) said: "When I have fashioned him (in due proportion) and breathed into him of My spirit, fall ye down in obeisance unto him." (Qur’an 38:72)

Faitha sawwaytuhu wanafakhtu feehi min roohee faqaAAoo lahu sajideena

 

   Here Allah (S) strengthens Jesus (S) with “Rooh-alqudus [Gabriel (S)]”: Then will Allah say: "O Jesus the son of Mary! Recount My favour to thee and to thy mother. Behold! I strengthened thee with the holy spirit… (Qur’an 5:110)

Ith qala Allahu ya AAeesa ibna maryama othkur niAAmatee AAalayka waAAala walidatika ith ayyadtuka biroohi alqudusi

  We gave Moses the Book and followed him up with a succession of apostles; We gave Jesus the son of Mary Clear (Signs) and strengthened him with the holy spirit… (Qur’an 2:87)  

Walaqad atayna moosa alkitaba waqaffayna min baAAdihi bialrrusuli waatayna AAeesa ibna maryama albayyinati waayyadnahu biroohi alqudusi (Qur’an 2:87)

 

  Allah (S) also strengthen the Believers (Muslims) with his spirit (min rooh): Thou wilt not find any people who believe in Allah and the Last Day, loving those who oppose Allah and His Messenger, even though they were their fathers or their sons, or their brothers, or their kindred. For such He has written Faith in their hearts, and strengthened them with a spirit from Himself. And He will admit them to Gardens beneath which Rivers flow, to dwell therein (for ever). Allah will be well pleased with them, and they with Him. They are the Party of Allah (Hezbullah). Truly it is the Party of Allah that will achieve Success.” (Qur’an 58:22)

La tajidu qawman yuminoona biAllahi waalyawmi alakhiri yuwaddoona man hadda Allaha warasoolahu walaw kanoo abaahum aw abnaahum aw ikhwanahum aw AAasheeratahum olaika kataba fee quloobihimu aleemana waayyadahum biroohin minhu wayudkhiluhum jannatin tajree min tahtiha alanharu khalideena feeha radiya Allahu AAanhum waradoo AAanhu olaika hizbu Allahi ala inna hizba Allahi humu almuflihoona

 

  And Allah (S) said he: “Raised high above ranks (or degrees), (He is) the Lord of the Throne (of Authority): by His Command doth He send the spirit (of inspiration) to any of His servants he pleases, that it may warn (men) of the Day of Mutual Meeting,” (Qur’an 40:15)

RafeeAAu alddarajati thoo alAAarshi yulqee alrrooha min amrihi AAala man yashao min AAibadihi liyunthira yawma alttalaqi

 But he Allah (S) also said when: They ask thee concerning the spirit (of inspiration). Say: ‘The spirit (cometh) by command of my Lord: of knowledge it is only a little that is communicated to you, (O men!)’" (Qur’an 17:85)

Wayasaloonaka AAani alrroohi quli alrroohu min amri rabbee wama ooteetum mina alAAilmi illa qaleelan

 All the verses are self explained above and all spirits that proceeded from Allah (S) are holy (Holy Spirits).

 

 Let us examine the bible and see how many spirits God Almighty has. It is mentioned in Rev.4:5 “And out of the throne proceeded lightnings and thunderings and voices: and there were seven lamps of fire burning before the throne, which are the seven Spirits of God.”

Rev.4:6 And before the throne there was a sea of glass like unto crystal: and in the midst of the throne, and round about the throne, were four beasts full of eyes before and behind.

What are these eyes? They represented Spirits: Rev.5:6…and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God sent forth into all the earth.

 Rev.4:8 And the four beasts had each of them six wings about him; and they were full of eyes within: and they rest not day and night, saying, Holy, holy, holy, LORD God Almighty, which was, and is, and is to come.

So we can see God Almighty has Spirits by the thousands!

  This is what Allah (S) said: “The Day that the spirit and the angels will stand forth in ranks, none shall speak except any who is permitted by ((Allah)) Most Gracious, and He will say what is right.” (Qur’an 78:38)

Yawma yaqoomu alrroohu waalmalaikatu saffan la yatakallamoona illa man athina lahu alrrahmanu waqala sawaban (Qur’an 78:38)

 

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Quote truthnowcome Replybullet Posted: 25 September 2008 at 10:17am
 

 With the above explanation we can go straight into the topic. In John 14:26  it is mentioned:  Butt the Comforter which is the Holy Ghost... Here, the bible we understand that the “Comforter” is the “Holy Spirit.” However, in 1John.2:1  it read: “...we have an ADVOCATE with the father, Jesus Christ the righteous.” Jesus was also call “Comforter.” The word used there for both is “Paracletos” which translated as “Comforter, Advocate, etc.” So we have now, Jesus (S) as a “Comforter” and the Holy Spirit as the “Comforter,” that is two now!

 

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  After said that, now, let’s look at John14:16-17. Jesus (S) said: “…I will pray to the father, and he shall give you "ANOTHER" Comforter (Paracletos: advocate, Comforter, Councillor) that he may abide with you for ever. Even the spirit of truth: whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you and shall be in you.

   In this verse, the key word is "ANOTHER". If something is already with you how can we call it “ANOTHER” when it is already with you, can we? As the verse continues it read: Even the spirit of truth: whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you’ and shall be in you.

   You see that? It said:  “for he dwelleth with you” meaning it is already with them. So “Another Comforter” here is not the Spirit of Truth that is already with them, it is referring to someone that is not there. Jesus (S) himself is a Comforter: 1John.2:1 “...we have an ADVOCATE with the father, Jesus Christ the righteous.” And he is telling them about “another one.” What does another mean? It cannot be the same thing; it has to be another like the same thing. Jesus (S) is the “first” Comforter; then the “other”: The one to follow must be of “like nature” or we can say, theAnother Comforter” like Jesus (S) who is a Comforter and the Comforter which “dwelleth with them and shall be in them” it was two personalities.

  But the point Christians are missing here is, where the “Another Comforter” would come from.

   We can ask Jesus (S)! He said in John 14:16-17: “…I will pray to the ‘father’, and ‘he’ shall give you Another Comforter’…” They miss that very important point; this “Comforter” has to come from the “Father!” Jesus (S) conform it in John 16:7: He said: “Nevertheless, I tell you the truth: It is expedient for you that ‘I go’ for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you, but if I depart, I will send him unto you.” (John 16:7)

  This would mean that the comforter was with the Father in Heaven and when he goes to the Father in Heaven then he will send him. We cannot say Jesus (S) will send himself, which is foolish because Jesus (S) is not there with the Father in Heaven when he was talking to the disciples. The “Another Comforter” is in Heaven with the Father, Jesus (S) mentioned it in John 3:13:  “And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the son of man which is ‘IN’ heaven.”

  Jesus (S) was the Son of man “ON” earth and he spoke about “another” Son of man which is “IN” heaven. 

  Now, lets look at John 14:16-17 again, he said: “…I will pray to the ‘father’, and ‘he’ shall give you ‘ANOTHER’ Comforter Even the spirit of truth… but ye know him; for ‘he dwelleth with you’ and shall be in you.

  Jesus (S) is talking about “another comforter” who is “with the Father in Heaven” and also the “Holy Spirit” which is “with the disciple on earth” (…for he dwelleth with you…)

 
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Quote truthnowcome Replybullet Posted: 25 September 2008 at 10:29am

 My friend Robin, silence is agreeing or say someting, anyting. You can invite your friends and family to visit this forum and listen to their openion or you can invite the Watchtower society to visit here.

Allah (S) said: "…And nearest among them in love to the Believers wilt thou find those who say, “We are Christians” Because among these are men devoted to learning and who have renounced the world, and they are not arrogant." (Q.5:82)
 
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  Now, lets look at John 14:16-17 again, he said: “…I will pray to the ‘father’, and ‘he’ shall give you ‘ANOTHER’ Comforter Even the spirit of truth… but ye know him; for ‘he dwelleth with you’ and shall be in you.

  Jesus (S) is talking about “another comforter” who is “with the Father in Heaven” and also the “Holy Spirit” which is “with the disciple on earth” (…for he dwelleth with you…)

THE CONDITION BEFORE THE COMFORTER COMES.
 

    The “condition” is, when he goes to the Father in Heaven he will “send him” because the “Another Comforter” was in Heaven at that time with the Father.

  Remember, he said in John 16:7: “Nevertheless, I tell you the truth: It is expedient for you that I go for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you, but if I depart, I will send him unto you.!”

  But according to the Bible the disciple received the Holy Ghost “before” Jesus (pbuh) left! It is mentioned in John.20:21-22 where Jesus (S) said: ...As my father hath sent me, even so I send you (the disciple) And  when he had said this, he breathed on them, and said unto them, RECEIVED YE THE HOLY GHOST.” That is the one which Jesus (S) was talking about when he said: Even the spirit of truth: whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he ‘dwelleth with you and shall be in you.’”

  If the Spirit of truth is not in them but dwelleth with them (the disciple), then where is the spirit of truth? John chapter one verse thirty-two read, I saw the Spirit descending from heaven..., and abode upon him.”(John 1:32)

  Jesus (S) was a comforter (1John.2:1 ) with the spirit of truth strengthen him. So he dwelleth with them (the disciple) and shall be in them, which they received when Jesus (S) BREATHED on them in John.20:21-22.

  It is mentioned in the Quran: “O? Eesa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary)! Remember My Favour to you and to your mother when I supported you with Rooh ul Qudus [Jibreel (Gabriel)].” [al-Maa'idah 5:110]

  He was also described as a Spirit proceeding from Allah (Ruhun minhu): “…Christ Jesus the son of Mary was (no more than) a Messenger of Allah and His word (BE), which He bestowed on Mary, and a Spirit proceeding from Him (Roohun minhu)… (Q.4:171)     

  The believers (Muslims) also are strengthen with the Spirit from Allah (S) Qur’an 58:22: Thou wilt not find any people who believe in Allah and the Last Day, loving those who oppose Allah and His Messenger, even though they were their fathers or their sons, or their brothers, or their kindred. For such He has written Faith in their hearts, and strengthened them with a spirit from Himself (Roohin-minhu)... (Qur’an 58:22)

La tajidu qawman yuminoona biAllahi waalyawmi alakhiri yuwaddoona man hadda Allaha warasoolahu walaw kanoo abaahum aw abnaahum aw ikhwanahum aw AAasheeratahum olaika kataba fee quloobihimu aleemana waayyadahum biroohin minhu Qur’an 58:22

 

  So in the above mentioned we have the one that was “abode upon Jesus (S)” and the one that was “with the Father in heaven.” Jesus (S) mentioned it in  John 3:13:  “And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the son of man which is ‘IN’ heaven.”

 

 But how will he abide with us forever? Let Jesus (S) tells us:

This explanation is from the late Ahmad Deedat [May Allah (S) rewards him], he explained:

  “In Luke, Chapter sixteen, Jesus (S) tells us the story of the ‘rich man, Poor man.’ At death both find themselves at opposite ends – one in Heaven and one in Hell. The rich man simmering in Hell cries to Father Abraham to send the beggar (Lazarus) to slake his thirst. But when every plea fails, he, ask a last favor, requesting that Father Abraham send the beggar to earth to warn his living brother against their impending doom if they heeded not the warning of God.

  But Abraham said, ‘If they (those still alive on earth) hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead. (To warn them)’ Luke 16:31

  Jesus uttered the above parable centuries after the demise of the prophets of Israel Jeremiah, Hosea, etc and over thirteen hundred years after Moses (S). The Pharisees at that time of Jesus (S) and we today can still listen to ‘Moses and the Prophets.’ For they are alive still alive, and with us here today in their teaching and so was Muhammad (S) the ‘Another Comforter’ (Nothing new, Jesus said it!)”

 

THE DISCIPLES KNEW OF HIM:

  It was conformed in 1John.4:1 “Beloved, believe not every SPIRIT, but try the SPIRITS whether they are of God because many false PROPHETS are gone out into the world.”   

Now! Let us look at this wording, “believe not every spirit”. How do we “believe”? We can’t believe if we do not hear, correct? We have to hear to believe. Now the verse continues: “but try the spirits whether they are of God” How do we try the Spirit? By question him, and that is not my opinion, V.2 conforms it:  “2 Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that ‘confesseth’ that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:”

 The Spirit has to “confess” and if he “confesses” that would mean we have to listen to him. Now, if we have to go back to V.1 it says: “because many ‘false prophets’ are “gone out into the world.’”

Why “gone out into the world”? Because, “into the world” you have to go and look! And what you have to look for? It says: “Because many ‘false prophets’ are gone out.” The opposite of “false prophet” is what? True Prophet!!!

 Conclusion: John is saying, go out into the world and look for a “true prophet with the true spirit. And how do we know him? V.2 Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:

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  CONFESSIONED OF THE SPIRIT OF TRUTH.
 

  1John 4:2 says: “Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every Spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in flesh is of God.

 To have a better understanding let’s begin with John:

It is mentioned in John.1:1 “in the beginning was the Word and the Word was with God and the Word was God.”

If the word “was” God and the word was “with” God in the literal sense, it would mean that there are two Gods! In the Biblical language, the term “god” is used metaphorically to indicate power. Paul referred to the DEVIL as god. 

 In whom the “god” of this world hath blinded the mind of them which believe not... (2Corinthiants4:4)

  Moses (S) also referred to as god, “And the Lord said unto Moses, see I have made thee a ‘god’ to Pharaoh: and Aaron thy brother shall be thy prophet.” (Exodus 7:1)

 Which word was “with” God in the beginning? For us to know we have to go to the beginning.

And God said, let there “BE” light: and there was light. (Genesis.1:3)

 

 

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   So which word was with God? “BE” and that is the word he created all things, and that word He used to create the life. [...And the life was the light of men, and the light shineth in darkness (man) and the darkness (man) comprehended it not]. (John.1:4-5)

   How he did it? Quran tells us: “When He (Allah) hath decreed a matter, He but said to it, ‘BE’ and it is!” (Q.3:47)   

  The life or the light is a real fire burning inside of man. Why when we breathe in oxygen we breathe out carbon dioxide? It is the light in us that burns.  

   That was the true light, which lightest every man that come into this world. (John.1:9)

   And the word (BE) was made flesh, and dwell among us. (John.1:14)

   How the word was made flesh? Only the Qur’an gives the answer:

   Behold! The angel said: O Mary! Allah giveth thee Glad Tidings of a word from Him: His name will be (Isa) Christ Jesus, the son of Mary...She said: "O my Lord! How shall I have a son when no man hath touched me?" Allah createth what He willeth: when He hath decreed a matter, He but saith to it BE, and it is! (Q.3:45-47) 

   And the word ‘BE’ was made flesh and dwell among us.

   Here by know ye the Spirit of God: Every Spirit that comfesseth that Jesus Christ is come in flesh is of God. (1John 4:2)

 

Who created all things? The one that sits on the throne!

 Rev.4:9 And when those beasts give glory and honour and thanks to him that sat on the throne, who liveth for ever and ever,

Rev.4:11 Thou art worthy, O Lord, to receive glory and honour and power: for thou hast created all things, and for thy pleasure they are and were created.

 Rev.5:1 And I saw in the right hand of “him that sat on the throne” a book written within and on the backside, sealed with seven seals.

You see that? The One that sits on the throne has a book, and what he did with it? Let’s find out.

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Rev.5:7And he (the Lamb) came and took the book out of the right hand of him (God Almighty) that sat upon the throne.

 Who took the book out of the right hand of him that sat on the throne? The Lamb! And who is sitting on the throne? God Almighty!

Nothing new! It’s all in Revelation 1:1

Rev.1:1The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God (Almighty) gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John:

“For I have not spoken on My own authority; but the Father who sent Me gave Me a command, what I should say and what I should speak." (John 12:49)

And who was Jesus (S)? Revelation 1:5 says, “…Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness…”

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COMFORTER BRINGS JUDGMENT:

 Jesus (S) said in John 16: 7 “Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you. 8 And when he is come, he will reprove the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment:’”

  Jesus (S) is saying that, the “Comforter” will bring “Judgment” to the world (Gentiles). So the Comforter has to be a “person” according to Isaiah 42:1 “Behold my servant, whom I uphold; mine elect, in whom my soul delighteth: I have put my Spirit upon ‘him: he’ shall bring forth ‘judgment to the Gentile.’” (See explanation of Isaiah 42)

  That is the reason why the disciple John was looking for a Prophet with a Spirit in 1John.4:1 “Beloved, believe not every Spirit, but try the Spirits whether they are of God because many false Prophets are gone out into the world.” 

 The universal book of Judgment:  Rev.14:6-7: “And I saw another angel fly in the midst of haven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people. Saying with aloud voice, Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his judgment is come.”

  The everlasting gospel was yet to come; Jesus (S) gospel could not be for all time! Jesus (S) already on earth with a gospel, he could not be the “another angel” with “everlasting gospel,” the everlasting Gospel is the same little book that mentioned in Revelation 10:1-11; another angel with a “little book” which John did not wrote but is yet to come and it is clearly stated that the, “…another angel fly in the midst of haven, having the everlasting gospel…” This everlasting gospel is coming from Heaven! The Qur’an makes that claimed and the book of Revelation 14-7 says? “Fear God and Give Glory to him; for the hour of his judgment is come!” Not the Day of Judgment, the Criterion: the standard way of judgment between right and wrong.

This is what Allah (S) said: “Blessed is He who sent down the Criterion (of judgment between right and wrong) to His Servant, that it may be an admonition to all creatures. (Q.25:1)

Thus have We revealed it (the Qur’an) to be a judgment of authority in Arabic” (Q.13:37)

 

HE SHALL NOT SPEAK OF HIMSELF:

   In John: 16:12 Jesus (S) said:I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now.   13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for ‘he shall not speak of himself;’ but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will show you things to come.”

  If anyone says he is in them and speaks to them then he is that Prophet because John was looking for a Prophet with a Spirit.

  The Holy Qur’an has made that claim: "And thou (O Muhammad) was not (able) to recite a book before this (book came), nor art thou (able) to transcribe it with thy right hand: in that case indeed, would the talkers of vanity have doubted. (Q.29:48)

   Nor does he say (aught) of (his own) desire. It is no less than inspiration sent down to him. He was taught by one mighty in power." (Q.53:3-5)

  In Qur'an Allah (S) said: "Verily this is a revelation from the Lord of the world:

With it came down the SPIRIT OF FAITH and TRUTH (Rooh-ul-Amin).

To thy heart." (Q.26:192-194)

Nothing new! Same with Jesus (S), it mentioned in John 1:32: I saw the Spirit descending from heaven..., and abode upon him.”(John 1:32)

 

  The Prophet (S) of Islam was known as the “Al-Amin” (the Faithful and truthful one).

 And Allah (S) said: “Therein come down the angels and the (Rooh) Spirit by Allah’s permission, on every errand.” (Q.97:4)

  The angels and the Spirit [Ruh-ul-Qudus: Gabriel (Q.16:102); Ruh-ul-Amin: to the Al-Amim: Muhammad (S).

 "O ?Eesa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary)! Remember My Favour to you and to your mother when I supported you with Rooh ul Qudus [Jibreel (Gabriel)]." (Qur’an 5:110)

  Jesus (S) was strengthen with the “Holy Spirit” (Rooh-ul-Qudus) and also Muhammad (S) was supported with “the spirit of faith and truth” (Rooh-ul-Amin).  Shaykh al-Islam Ibn Taymiyah said: the majority of scholars said that this refers to Jibreel (peace be upon him), and that Allaah called him al-Rooh al-Ameen, Rooh al-Qudus and Jibreel."  (Daqaa'iq al-Tafseer, part 1, p. 310)

  Allah (S) said: “We have not sent thee but as a (universal Messenger) to ‘ALL’ mankind, giving glad tiding and warn them (against sin), but most of mankind know not.” (Q.34:28)

  And He said: “Without doubt it is (announced) in the revealed book [Taura (Torah) and the Injil (Gospel) of former peoples].” (Q.26:192-196)

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