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believer
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![]() Posted: 12 October 2008 at 8:51am |
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003.055 029.046 010.094 YUSUFALI: If thou wert in doubt as to what We have revealed unto thee, then ask those who have been reading the Book from before thee: the Truth hath indeed come to thee from thy Lord: so be in no wise of those in doubt. PICKTHAL: And if thou (Muhammad) art in doubt concerning that which We reveal unto thee, then question those who read the Scripture (that was) before thee. Verily the Truth from thy Lord hath come unto thee. So be not thou of the waverers. SHAKIR: But if you are in doubt as to what We have revealed to you, ask those who read the Book before you; certainly the truth has come to you from your Lord, therefore you should not be of the disputers. Edited by believer - 12 October 2008 at 8:52am |
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John 3
16"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. |
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honeto
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![]() Posted: 13 October 2008 at 5:54pm |
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Originally posted by believer
LOL!! You must read more then answering-chritianity sites!!
read this:
RIGOROUS TRANSCRIPTION OF OLD TESTAMENT We can have confidence in the reliability of the Old Testament because of the rigorous transcription methods employed. Before the discovery of the Dead Sea Scrolls in 1947, the oldest Old Testament manuscript found dated around AD 900, approximately 1300 years after the completion of the Old Testament in 400 BC. The Dead Sea Scrolls, however are dated before the time of Christ (about 150 BC). The book of Isaiah found in the Dead Sea Scrolls verifies the precision of the method used to transcribe the Old Testament. The book of Isaiah from the Dead Sea Scrolls is identical to today's standard Hebrew Bible in greater than 95% of the text. The 5% variation is due to slips of the pen and variations in spelling. You forgot, varying interpretations and meaning alterations. How Christians squeeze different meanings out of the same verse.
Here is an example:
The OT in Jewish hands reads:
Isaiah 9:5 For a child has been born to us, a son given to us, and the authority is upon his shoulder, and the wondrous adviser, the mighty God, the everlasting Father, called his name, "the prince of peace."
Now find the stark difference in Christian Bible. What they did to the meanings of the same verse so they can make people believe that Jesus was God. The same verse we find in the Christian Bible's Isaiah 9:6
For to us a child is born,
to us a son is given, and the government will be on his shoulders. And he will be called Wonderful Counselor,Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace This is a very important one since this alteration is a design to alter the doctrine alltogether, not just a mere translation difference.
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39:64 Proclaim: Is it some one other than God that you order me to worship, O you ignorant ones?"
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believer
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![]() Posted: 17 October 2008 at 5:22pm |
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Yes you have pointed that out before.
Please read:
The name of Jesus is used throughout the Old Testament every time salvation is mentioned.
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honeto
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![]() Posted: 20 October 2008 at 6:49pm |
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Originally posted by believer
Yes you have pointed that out before. Please read:
The name of Jesus is used throughout the Old Testament every time salvation is mentioned. Instead of addressing the contradiction, you are redirecting us to something different, may I ask why?
And by way the if you are making yeshua into Jesus, that is called translation, and words traslate, not proper nouns or names.
Like Robin is trying to make us believe the same that Mr Bush in America is Mr. Jahri in the Sub-continent and now you too!
Please address the transformation of the OT verse I mentioned when it was borrowed by Christian Bible.
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39:64 Proclaim: Is it some one other than God that you order me to worship, O you ignorant ones?"
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believer
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![]() Posted: 24 October 2008 at 6:46am |
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LOL!! I am not denying the contradiction.
Remember when you brought it up before I said that there are different interpretations of that same passage. You mention one, I follow another.
LOL!! honeto I have short term memory lose but not long term!!
So why does the Quran say Jesus' name is Isa?
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honeto
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Originally posted by believer
LOL!! I am not denying the contradiction. Remember when you brought it up before I said that there are different interpretations of that same passage. You mention one, I follow another.
LOL!! honeto I have short term memory lose but not long term!!
So why does the Quran say Jesus' name is Isa? Good that you realize that your interpretation of that verse is different in principle then the one found in the source from where it was taken.
I don't think God will hold us accountable for our memory loss,
rather for our mistakes that we make knowingly, and continue to follow that path.
You ask, "Why does Quran say Jesus' name is Isa." Well, I don't know why. But I know that Christians that are Arab and from the Sub-continent use "Issa" for Jesus. And I know that in Spanish, its pronounced as 'Hesoos'. So it must have gone through the same transformation as the word " Jehovah".
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believer
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I know for a positive that my path is the true way to GOD, for He has spoken to me and carried me through all things.
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Mansoor_ali
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![]() Posted: 28 November 2008 at 2:14pm |
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Originally posted by believer LOL!! You must read more then answering-chritianity sites!!
read this:
RIGOROUS TRANSCRIPTION OF OLD TESTAMENT We can have confidence in the reliability of the Old Testament because of the rigorous transcription methods employed. Before the discovery of the Dead Sea Scrolls in 1947, the oldest Old Testament manuscript found dated around AD 900, approximately 1300 years after the completion of the Old Testament in 400 BC. The Dead Sea Scrolls, however are dated before the time of Christ (about 150 BC).The book of Isaiah found in the Dead Sea Scrolls verifies the precision of the method used to transcribe the Old Testament. The book of Isaiah from the Dead Sea Scrolls is identical to today's standard Hebrew Bible in greater than 95% of the text. The 5% variation is due to slips of the pen and variations in spelling. THE REAL BIBLE: WHO'S GOT IT?
Pagan trintarian christians LIES Regarding the
Different and conflicting variations of "gospels" and "books" that are disagreed upon by the Churches today.
Textual Integrity Of The Bible
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