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Quote ramadan k Replybullet Posted: 15 June 2005 at 3:16am

The Zionists didn't want Jersulam, they originally asked for any of three sites for their homeland: Nova Scotia Canada, Uraguay, or Uganda.  (There is no water in Palestine, the Sea of Galilee is drying up, and this is the source of the Jordan river). The British offered them Palestine at the end of WWI, and they accepted because Allah had a plan for their punishment.

The Prophet Muhammad told us that in the last days, they would be gathered from all over the earth to return to the city they were forbidden from until the time of the last war.  And there they would be destroyed, every last one of them, by the Mujahideen led by Issa alaihi assalam. 

Though they plan, Allah plans, and Allah is the best of planners.

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Quote AhmadJoyia Replybullet Posted: 15 June 2005 at 7:13am

My Dear Bro SixNineteen
  I think I have already replied to you on page 1 of this link. Kindly see if you have any more questions on the issue or what. Its only later that The One has posted his questions in the same thread. So, if you think you have more to ask then don't hesitate.

Bro The One.

I think I have already provided you the answer. Since you have already mentioned that you are not bounded by Varna nor by Law of Manu, then why are you bounding yourself with Nikkah. However, if you are bounding yourself with Nikkah, then it must also be realized that Nikkah has only meaning with regard to Islam other than that, its merely a peice of paper like any other contract. People (both muslims and non-muslims) have open choices to whatever they may choose. But once they choose, as being grown up responsible people, they must be bold enough for the consequences. Isn't it? Its like your law of Karmma, though in Islam, a little flavour of one's intentions is also added into this law. Other than that, since I am not a scholar of Islam, hence, I can't advise or comment upon religion's limits in case of marrying outside one's religion. Rest God knows the best.

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Quote Ali Zaki Replybullet Posted: 15 June 2005 at 8:02am

Salam alakum to SixNineteen and others,

I am a revert to Islam (from Christianity). The reason that you have experienced this with the Christians (in my informed opinion) is that the focus in Christianity is on "being saved" and "saving others". The pratice of Chrisitianity in churches in the U.S. today is very similar to paganism or witchcraft, and "saving of souls" is like a magic spell. The reason is that once you are "saved" (and you go to church, or others realize you are not going to attend regularly), the whole religion is kind of anti-climatic. No rules to follow (except going to church), no real pressure not to sin (since you're already "saved"), etc. Christianity is not a method of spiritual perfection, but rather, a "team" that you join and then support (by sitting in the pew one hour a week, giving money, putting "bumper stickers" on your car, etc.)

Islam, on the other hand, is a path/way towards Allah (s.w.a). When one say the Shahada, this is just the "first step" on this journey (although a very important step, as first steps usually are). Once you take the first step, Allah (s.w.a.) will coming running "nine-steps" towards you, and will send you people to help you on your journey (if you are sincere).

If you would like to discuss things privately, or need help in a particular area then feel free to "pm" (Private Messenger) me. I would also highly encourage you to seek out other Muslims that you can be in physical contact with, and (if you're ready) to find the local mosques in your area and visit one. If you are in the U.S. I may be able to recommend some for you (especially in the L.A. area).

Salam

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Quote The One Replybullet Posted: 15 June 2005 at 9:37am
Salam Ali!

Sorry Ali, I did not see your reply. And sorry for diverting the topic. It was unintentional.

And you got Islam completely wrong. Islamic laws differ from country to country.

Hindus are kafirs? Pardon me! Kafir means one who does not believe. Hindus cannot be called Kafirs.

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Quote AhmadJoyia Replybullet Posted: 15 June 2005 at 11:49am
I think, right word for Hindus, if any, would be  'Mushrik' (the one who adds diety/dieties in the divinity of God); as Kafir can only be the one to whom message of God was conveyed properly, and thus he/she wilfully rejected it. Rest God knows the best.
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Quote Ali Zaki Replybullet Posted: 15 June 2005 at 12:13pm

Salam,

Brother Ahmad Joyia you are correct!

Kafir= unbeliever (usually applied to atheists, agnostics)

Mushrik= polytheist (one who associates others with Allah, i.e.,)

Hindu's are considered to be Musriks, not Kafirs.

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Quote The One Replybullet Posted: 16 June 2005 at 1:38am
Salam to Ahmad, Ali and all!

I want a little clarification regarding some points. So posted a topic in General Discussion and may not be returning to this topic. If you can please reply, I will be thankful.

Brother Ahmad, your answer was good regarding Nikah, but not only me but no Hindu is bound by his or her Varna and the laws of Manu.
And forget about "a little flavour", Karma considers everything one thinks or does, whether it is a simple act or a mere useless thought. There is no escape from it.

I didn't know that Hindus are called Mushriks. Thank you for that also. But you will be right only when Allah is a diety or a demi-god. Everyone knows that God is only One and so no question of "God beside God". You will find temples only for dieties and not God.


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Quote hkrespect Replybullet Posted: 18 June 2005 at 8:26am

what???

anyone not on islam is a kaafir, that includes hindus.

about marriage, the muslim woman cannot marry non muslim man, she will become a kaafir if she does.

lets stick to the way of the Prophet pbuh and his companions, not our own whims and desires.

say it like it is.

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