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Posted: 28 January 2008 at 6:53pm

Thank you very much. I am talking from what I am seeing myself with my own eyes.i.e. by observing things with my own eyes and experience with the Hadith people.

The persons who have not seen the disparity between the ahle Sunnah and the ahle hadith do not know much about the problem at hand. I do not blame any one. I believe that Sunnah is different from Hadith and it takes priority over the sayings of the prophet s.a.w.s. Sunnah comes next after the Quran. The Hadith or the sayings of the prophet s.a.w.s. are also very useful and binding on us after the Sunnah.

The Hadith (sayings) is to support the Sunnah and the Hadith are meant to serve the Sunnah (The practice) of the holy prophet s.a.w.s. Thanks again. Period

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Posted: 03 September 2008 at 3:04am

Originally posted by Jazmine

If Imam Bukhari met Imam Hambali it means they were of the same generation?

As Brother Minuteman said :

“Imam Bukhari himself was not acting on any Hadith. He knew and was doing everything as per the practice of the holy prophet s.a.w.s. The collection of the narrations was an extra subject. Before he did such a great job,, he was still performing his wudhu and salat etc. He was acting on the Sunnah of the prophet s.a.w.s. which was in circulation all over the muslim countries (areas)…” (inviting attention to the life story of Imam Bukhari)

So this means that even Imam Hambali and the rest of those Imams were not acting on any Hadith as there were no Sahih Bukhari yet exist as it is still on the process of compilation etc, but was acting on the Sunnah. So why not follow the same and lets be united into one? Quran and Sunnah and no more fanatical Imam followers and no more labeling? Are we making things hard on us? Please no more insults, just tell me if am right or wrong

** Sunnah accordingly is the saying and deeds of the Prophet while Hadith is the sayings (included the instructions and inspirations) of the prophet; it means that hadith is one part of Sunnah. So if we put it into equation:-

Sunnah = sayings + Deeds of the Prophet

but Hadith = sayings of the prophet

therefore:-

Sunnah = Hadith + Deeds of the Prophet

am I right? Mr Minuteman & Mr Abdul-Azeem'876

Let's not jump into conclusion, you would have to study the whole history of how hadeeths came to being.
The four respected Imams (Imam Ahmed, Shafie, Abu Hanifa, and Malik) lived before Bukhari.
Imam Malik was born (90 Hijri) Abu Hanfia (80 Hijri). Just to gave you an example of how close they were to the Prophet SAW time.
They were both contemporary to the generation of Tabien (2nd generation of Muslim). Abu Hanifa is given the status of Tabie.

These early Imams wrote down their works,
Books by Abu Hanifa. Abu Hanifa also met the Sahaba Anas ibn Malik.
Kitaab-ul-Aathar - compiled from a total of 70,000 ahadit

Kitabul Asar
Aalim wa'l-muta‘allim
Fiqh al-Akbar
Jaami’ul Masaneed
Kitaabul Rad alal Qaadiriyah

so it wasn't like Imam Bukhari came in got the hadeeths out of the blue.

Same can be said about the other 3 Imams. Infact their Madhab are interralted.

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Posted: 13 July 2012 at 5:28am

please when you talk about islamic topics be very serious alhamdulilaah you all are trying to seek knowledge and this is the greatess step forward

Imam Bukhari came late but before him there were many school of thaughts and hadith books as well but they were all sincere in there practice of religion.
Imam Maliks' Sahih mutawatta was considered the most reliable source in sheikh bukhari time and still considered one of the most reliable.

keep on seeking knowledge

These great scholars not only spread the word but also replied to those non muslims who tried their best in every age to malign the image of islam. Below is given the list of some of the muslims scholars who achieved the respect through their great work on Islam.

The fuqaha and muhaditheen who did not care for the night and day and spent their entire lives in helping the cause of islam.

They include
IMAM ABU HANIFAH
IMAM BUKHAIR
IMAM MUSLIM
IMAM ABU DAWOOD
IMAM MALIK
IMAM HUNMBLE
IMAM AHMED

And those who were their students and were pious muslims, who did not utter a single word against the religion of ALLAH, nor did they innovated anything in the religion of ALLAH.

IMAM AN-NAWAWI
IBN-E KATHIR
MAULANA MAUDODI
JALAL UD DIN MAHALLI
JALAL UD DIN AL-SUYUTI (THESE “JALALS” ARE WRITERS OF TAFSIR-E JALALYN)
MUHAMMAD IBN-E ABDUL WAHAB
SHEIKH NASIR UD DIN ALBANI
SHEIKH UTHEMAN
SHEIKH SALMAN AL-OADAH
SHEIKH AYMAN BIN KHALED
SHEIKH IBN TAYMIYA
IMAM IBN HAJAR
SHEIKH IBN-AL QAYYIM
BASSAM ZAWADI
KHALID YASEEN
KAMAAL AL MEKKI
SHAYKH ZUBAIR ALI
SHAYKH FEIZ
SHAYKH MUBASHAR AHMAD RABBANI
IBN E HAJAR ASQALANI ( FATH UL BARI)

The IRF scholars/orators:

SHEIKH AHMED DEEDAT
DR. ZAKIR NAIK
DR. ISRAR AHMED
ABDUR RAHEEM GREEN
YUSUF ESTAS
YASIR FAZAGA
YASIR QAZI
BILAL PHILIPS
SALEM AL AAMRY
JAMAL BADAWI
DR. JAFAR IDRIS
DR. HUSSAIN HAED HASSAN (ISLAMIC FINANCE EXPERT)
ASIM AL HAKIM
HUSSAIN YEE
IMAM SIRAJ WAHAB
DR. MEHMOOD MUHAMMAD
RIAZ ANSARI
ABDUR RAHEEM MCCARTHY
ABDUL HAKIM QUICK
MUHAMMAD AL JIBALI
AMMAR AMONETTE

Among Others’

TAUSEEF UR REHMAN RASHIDI
SHAH WALIULLAH DEHLVI
IBTISAM ELAHI ZAHEER
DR FARHAT HASHMI

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minuteman Senior Member Joined: 25 March 2007 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1642	Posted: 28 January 2008 at 6:53pm
	Thank you very much. I am talking from what I am seeing myself with my own eyes.i.e. by observing things with my own eyes and experience with the Hadith people. The persons who have not seen the disparity between the ahle Sunnah and the ahle hadith do not know much about the problem at hand. I do not blame any one. I believe that Sunnah is different from Hadith and it takes priority over the sayings of the prophet s.a.w.s. Sunnah comes next after the Quran. The Hadith or the sayings of the prophet s.a.w.s. are also very useful and binding on us after the Sunnah. The Hadith (sayings) is to support the Sunnah and the Hadith are meant to serve the Sunnah (The practice) of the holy prophet s.a.w.s. Thanks again. Period
	If any one is bad some one must suffer
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SaaDibnA.Waqqas Starter Joined: 02 September 2008 Location: Bangladesh Online Status: Offline Posts: 8	Posted: 03 September 2008 at 3:04am
	*Originally posted by Jazmine* If Imam Bukhari met Imam Hambali it means they were of the same generation? As Brother Minuteman said : “Imam Bukhari himself was not acting on any Hadith. He knew and was doing everything as per the practice of the holy prophet s.a.w.s. The collection of the narrations was an extra subject. Before he did such a great job,, he was still performing his wudhu and salat etc. He was acting on the Sunnah of the prophet s.a.w.s. which was in circulation all over the muslim countries (areas)…” (inviting attention to the life story of Imam Bukhari) So this means that even Imam Hambali and the rest of those Imams were not acting on any Hadith as there were no Sahih Bukhari yet exist as it is still on the process of compilation etc, but was acting on the Sunnah. So why not follow the same and lets be united into one? Quran and Sunnah and no more fanatical Imam followers and no more labeling? Are we making things hard on us? Please no more insults, just tell me if am right or wrong ** Sunnah accordingly is the saying and deeds of the Prophet while Hadith is the sayings (included the instructions and inspirations) of the prophet; it means that hadith is one part of Sunnah. So if we put it into equation:- Sunnah = sayings + Deeds of the Prophet but Hadith = sayings of the prophet therefore:- Sunnah = Hadith + Deeds of the Prophet am I right? Mr Minuteman & Mr Abdul-Azeem'876 Let's not jump into conclusion, you would have to study the whole history of how hadeeths came to being. The four respected Imams (Imam Ahmed, Shafie, Abu Hanifa, and Malik) lived before Bukhari. Imam Malik was born (90 Hijri) Abu Hanfia (80 Hijri). Just to gave you an example of how close they were to the Prophet SAW time. They were both contemporary to the generation of Tabien (2nd generation of Muslim). Abu Hanifa is given the status of Tabie. These early Imams wrote down their works, Books by Abu Hanifa. Abu Hanifa also met the Sahaba Anas ibn Malik. Kitaab-ul-Aathar - compiled from a total of 70,000 ahadit Kitabul Asar Aalim wa'l-muta‘allim Fiqh al-Akbar Jaami’ul Masaneed Kitaabul Rad alal Qaadiriyah so it wasn't like Imam Bukhari came in got the hadeeths out of the blue. Same can be said about the other 3 Imams. Infact their Madhab are interralted.
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almuslim Male Islam Starter Joined: 13 July 2012 Location: United States Online Status: Offline Posts: 1	Posted: 13 July 2012 at 5:28am
	please when you talk about islamic topics be very serious alhamdulilaah you all are trying to seek knowledge and this is the greatess step forward Imam Bukhari came late but before him there were many school of thaughts and hadith books as well but they were all sincere in there practice of religion. Imam Maliks' Sahih mutawatta was considered the most reliable source in sheikh bukhari time and still considered one of the most reliable. keep on seeking knowledge These great scholars not only spread the word but also replied to those non muslims who tried their best in every age to malign the image of islam. Below is given the list of some of the muslims scholars who achieved the respect through their great work on Islam. The fuqaha and muhaditheen who did not care for the night and day and spent their entire lives in helping the cause of islam. They include IMAM ABU HANIFAH IMAM BUKHAIR IMAM MUSLIM IMAM ABU DAWOOD IMAM MALIK IMAM HUNMBLE IMAM AHMED And those who were their students and were pious muslims, who did not utter a single word against the religion of ALLAH, nor did they innovated anything in the religion of ALLAH. IMAM AN-NAWAWI IBN-E KATHIR MAULANA MAUDODI JALAL UD DIN MAHALLI JALAL UD DIN AL-SUYUTI (THESE “JALALS” ARE WRITERS OF TAFSIR-E JALALYN) MUHAMMAD IBN-E ABDUL WAHAB SHEIKH NASIR UD DIN ALBANI SHEIKH UTHEMAN SHEIKH SALMAN AL-OADAH SHEIKH AYMAN BIN KHALED SHEIKH IBN TAYMIYA IMAM IBN HAJAR SHEIKH IBN-AL QAYYIM BASSAM ZAWADI KHALID YASEEN KAMAAL AL MEKKI SHAYKH ZUBAIR ALI SHAYKH FEIZ SHAYKH MUBASHAR AHMAD RABBANI IBN E HAJAR ASQALANI ( FATH UL BARI) The IRF scholars/orators: SHEIKH AHMED DEEDAT DR. ZAKIR NAIK DR. ISRAR AHMED ABDUR RAHEEM GREEN YUSUF ESTAS YASIR FAZAGA YASIR QAZI BILAL PHILIPS SALEM AL AAMRY JAMAL BADAWI DR. JAFAR IDRIS DR. HUSSAIN HAED HASSAN (ISLAMIC FINANCE EXPERT) ASIM AL HAKIM HUSSAIN YEE IMAM SIRAJ WAHAB DR. MEHMOOD MUHAMMAD RIAZ ANSARI ABDUR RAHEEM MCCARTHY ABDUL HAKIM QUICK MUHAMMAD AL JIBALI AMMAR AMONETTE Among Others’ TAUSEEF UR REHMAN RASHIDI SHAH WALIULLAH DEHLVI IBTISAM ELAHI ZAHEER DR FARHAT HASHMI
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