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Whisper
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![]() Posted: 29 December 2007 at 1:39am |
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Sorry, forgot to add; it's as big a fraud as of keeping OBL alive. All the people in the world who know anything worth knowing know that the man died of renal failure, years ago. But then we must keep him alive for spending some more of your dollars on finding him and that is quite a costly affair! |
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Duende
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![]() Posted: 29 December 2007 at 2:54am |
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Just straying slightly off topic (by the way, can the originator of the thread
go back and correct the spelling of Benazir please?) here's a documentary worth watching detailing how the media are controlled, and how the media control society. Particularly pertinent is the section towards the end of the movie about the creation of 'unfounded fears' among the population: the boogy man Al Qaeda is just one of these fabrications, like 'gun violence' (aiming to blame guns for going off and shooting people, rather than blaming criminals) and the never ending war on 'terror'. One of the most succesfull strategies of the Council on Foreign Relations is the presentation of the problem AND the solution. Within the problem there will always be some seeds of truth, but not easily identifiable- hence we wonder does/did Al Qaeda exist at all- and the solution will also present required actions which are not attractive (never ending war) but sold to us as the ONLY possible solution, given the problem. It's like the circle of the snake biting its tail. There's no doubt Musharraff and Co have been extensively guided by members of the CFR (as is G.W Bush) in these strategies. However, Washington appears not to have noticed that they do not in fact control Pakistan media, and in order for such strategies to work on any given population, you have to control the media which feeds the population the agreed propaganda. (Sorry, can't get the Hyperlink button to work for me!) [URL=http://video.google.com/videoplay? docid=6632255652046262625] Edited by Duende |
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poga
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![]() Posted: 29 December 2007 at 6:04am |
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Originally posted by poga
Originally posted by ak_m_f
Originally posted by Angela She was killed because she was a woman who dared to run for office in that part of the world in today's society. yes a corrupt woman. Also she was US right hand. Good thing we got rid of her. She promised to give AQ Khan to US. No wonder west is crying for her, they lost their agent.
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Whisper
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![]() Posted: 29 December 2007 at 8:03am |
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Baitullah Mehsud denies killing Bhutto: spokesman PESHAWAR, Pakistan, Dec 29 (AFP) -An alleged Al-Qaeda leader Baitullah Mehsud, blamed by the Pakistan government for killing Benazir Bhutto, denied any involvement in her death, his spokesman told AFP on Saturday. “He had no involvement in this attack,” spokesman Maulana Omar said in a telephone call. “This is a conspiracy of the government, army and intelligence agencies.” The spokesman said he was calling from Pakistan's Waziristan area. “It is against tribal tradition and custom to attack a woman,” Omar said adding that the transcript released by the government, allegedly of a phone call between Mehsud and a militant discussing Bhutto's death after the fact, was a “drama”. He said it would have been “impossible” for militants to get through the security cordon around the campaign rally where she was killed. “Benazir was not only a leader of Pakistan but also a leader of international fame. We express our deep grief and shock over her death,” Omar said. (First Posted @ 12:13 PST; Updated @ 16:25 PST)
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Sasha Khanzadeh
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Whisper
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![]() Posted: 29 December 2007 at 8:08am |
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Benazir aide says bathed body, saw bullet wound ISLAMABAD, Dec 29 (AFP) Sherry Rehman, a close aide to Benazir Bhutto and also her spokeswoman, told AFP Saturday she saw a bullet wound in the Pakistani opposition leader's head when she bathed her body after her assassination. Rehman, who said she was in the former premier's motorcade at the time of the gun and suicide attack, rejected government claims that the death was caused when Benazir's head hit her sunroof. “I was actually part of the party which bathed her body before the funeral,” said Rehman, who added that her car was used to transport Benazir to hospital. “There was a bullet wound I saw that went in from the back of her head and came out the other side. “We could not even wash her properly because the wound was still seeping. She lost a huge amount of blood.” Rehman accused the government of mounting a cover-up over Benazir's death. “The hospital was made to change its statement. They never gave a proper report,” she said. “I believe the interior ministry is saying that she died from some concussion that may have taken place against the sunroof. This is ridiculous, dangerous nonsense because it is a cover-up of what actually happened.” (Posted @ 13:00 PST) If she were killed by Al-Qaeda or whatever other figment of our programmed imagination, why would the Pakistani government go head over heels for such a cover up? |
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Duende
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![]() Posted: 29 December 2007 at 9:27am |
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On another site, where Skeptic commentators rule, I read this in relation
to the 'official' story line: "Yup..She died of a skull fracture, just like one magic bullet hit JFK which also hit Connoly seven times (?); Bush has an IQ of 185; Kissinger is the tooth fairy; 19 Saudi hijackers took the US to its knees on 9/11; the 9/11 Commission Report deserves a Pulitzer Prize; JFK Jr. was a terrible pilot (died in a private light aircraft accident,); Prescott Bush was a patriot; the war on drugs is an incredible success; FOX News is fair and balanced; the Pearl Harbor attack was a BIG SURPRISE; depleted uranium is harmless; Iran has nuclear weapons aimed at the US; Israel is a pacifist nation, and the US is spreading democracy in Iraq." In any case, surely it would be the first time somebody inadvertently killed themselves by bumping their head on the sunroof. It would have to have been one tremendous bump. And one incredible 'accident' to have died from bumping one's head when an assassin had fired two shots and promptly exploded himself, killing 20 odd bystanders ... |
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AhmadJoyia
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![]() Posted: 29 December 2007 at 11:10am |
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Well, whatever one may say about the political characaterization of BeNazir Bhutto (BB), one thing is clear from this killing is that danger to Pakistan is clearly from within its own people i.e. those who are Sympathesizers of 'Bin Laden' theology commonly known as "Muslim extremists". According to their convictions, world is eternally Bi-polarized by the very advent of (their) Islam. Thus any notion of "western" influence, how good it may otherwise be, should always be rejected simply because of its origin from "Darul Harb", a place of eternal fighting against (their) Islam. According to these extremists, who have now become the terrorists, it was BB's crime to get US support to transform the Military rule in Pakistan from the hands of Army General President Musharaf to Plain President Mushraf. In contrast to a common understanding where the enemy of an enemy could be seen as a friend, these fanatics consdiered her as a priority one target,probably because of following reasons: (i) BB got support from "Darul Harb" to pressurise a democratic rule in the country. (ii) BB has vowed to curb the terrorists the same way as Mush is doing. (iii) Its BB's crime to be a women and yet ask for leadership of their country. (iv) It is the right time to "Nip the evil in the bud" where she don't have the luxury of Govt's protection/security just like Mush have it. in the end, I would say, the country has lost a big opportunity to move forward towards moderation and development through democracy.
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Whisper
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![]() Posted: 29 December 2007 at 11:58am |
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Other possible scenarios a hit ordered by her opponents who tried to kill her on her return from exile in Karachi i.e., MQM killers or Mush's political own political party etc. These political parties stood to loose most while her being around!
I will bet my latest shirt on this, Brother. |
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